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    Meanwhile, things are getting a little tense here in FORD Country.....



    hopefully the shitty weather will discourage some of these fucking MAGAtt scum from showing up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    That sucks. I wanna see a Republican-on-Republican blood bath in my lifetime
    Too late. The Republican Party is toast. If you want to see rednecks beat on each other just go to a cheap beer bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Too late. The Republican Party is toast.
    It really deserves to be.

    Even by politician standards the lack of integrity and backbone has been depressing. Watching the weasels desperately trying to distance themselves from Trump now is shameless.

    Piers fucking Morgan has come out saying that Trump who was his great friend a couple of months ago has suddenly transformed completely into a fascist monster that he doesn't like.

    You need a new party but maybe the more important thing is the systems. Something is going horribly wrong with the selection process for Congress. These are not good people.

    Same in the UK although ours are like a milder crappy version of yours. Election systems are the core problem which is probably too difficult to change so maybe you need to at least fix the money thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    It really deserves to be.

    Even by politician standards the lack of integrity and backbone has been depressing. Watching the weasels desperately trying to distance themselves from Trump now is shameless.

    Piers fucking Morgan has come out saying that Trump who was his great friend a couple of months ago has suddenly transformed completely into a fascist monster that he doesn't like.

    You need a new party but maybe the more important thing is the systems. Something is going horribly wrong with the selection process for Congress. These are not good people.

    Same in the UK although ours are like a milder crappy version of yours. Election systems are the core problem which is probably too difficult to change so maybe you need to at least fix the money thing.
    Your system came out of trial and error. It was a compromise between the king and the lord’s. Then of course a House of Commons and Prime Minister was added. Our system is based off that. The Senate is the equivalent of the House of Lords except they are elected. The House of Representatives is similar to the House of Commons. The President is the equivalent of a prime minister.

    Our system isn’t perfect but it’s worked pretty well for close to two and a half centuries. The system is only as good as the people in it and the voter has some of the blame not voting the bad people out of office. Politicians are always a target for bribery and blackmail. Lot’s of temptation to sell your office and if too many do that it becomes the best system someone can buy.

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    It all goes in cycles. You have periods where people are fairly content and others where everyone is at each other’s throats. If you are an outsider wanting to control a country you create agitation and get various groups fighting each other. You push the buttons. If you want to unify a country you create an outside enemy. You can do that with a false flag. It’s a bunch of games. Someone is always playing someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Our system isn’t perfect but it’s worked pretty well for close to two and a half centuries.
    Maybe for you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Your system came out of trial and error. It was a compromise between the king and the lord’s. Then of course a House of Commons and Prime Minister was added. Our system is based off that. The Senate is the equivalent of the House of Lords except they are elected. The House of Representatives is similar to the House of Commons. The President is the equivalent of a prime minister.
    Superficially maybe but not really in practice. You could argue that the senate is barely elected since it doesn't reflect the votes of the population but more importantly the House of Lords is just a review chamber it can ask the House of commons to reconsider but it cannot stop a law. In the US the senate is way more powerful. Secondly the Prime Minister is different from the president in that they are not directly elected they basically the leader of the lower house. That means that they are beholden to their own party, if Boris Johnson had for example called on people to attack parliament, members of his own party could remove him.

    It is no coincidence that when the US and UK have been involved in helping many countries set up their democratic systems over the last 100 years or so they never suggest that they use the same system as we do. At the same time talk bullshit about the wisdom of founding fathers or in the UK case calling it the mother of all parliaments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Maybe for you...
    Well a dictatorship is certainly more efficient but hard to find a benevolent one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Too late. The Republican Party is toast. If you want to see rednecks beat on each other just go to a cheap beer bar.
    Haven't you heard? The cheap beer bars are closed due to the OMG China Virus!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Well a dictatorship is certainly more efficient but hard to find a benevolent one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    Haven't you heard? The cheap beer bars are closed due to the OMG China Virus!
    Not everywhere, especially in areas where there are rednecks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    The Chimp is too stupid to be a dictator. He would get overthrown so quick.

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    MAGAtt terrorists thought they would make history on January 6. Ironically enough, they did. Thanks to them, one week later, Cheeto became the only president to be impeached TWICE.

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    Team Cheeto LOOTING the White House??


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    I seem to remember Cheeto saying "when the looting starts, the shooting starts". Guess (like most laws) he doesn't think that applies to his orange ass?

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    But maybe it's because he's going to need to pawn a lot of expensive shit to get some money........


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    Trump’s future looks rotten


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    President Trump faces a horrid future. He is the first U.S. president in history to be impeached twice; he lost the popular vote twice; he lost both the House and Senate for his party; and more than 383,000 Americans have died from covid-19 on his watch. He has clearly sewn up the title of “worst president ever.” If found guilty by a soon-to-be Democratic-controlled Senate, he will be unable to run for office again and may lose his post-presidential benefits (e.g., salary, travel allowance). But that is far from his biggest worry.

    Trump may be sued civilly or charged criminally for tax avoidance or other financial crimes that state prosecutors in New York are investigating. Depending on the charges, he could face significant fines or even imprisonment. (Trump has maintained that he has done nothing improper.)

    Speaking of finances, Trump reportedly has more than $400 million in loans coming due. However, his banks are cutting ties. Deutsche Bank, which holds about $340 million of the debt, and Signature Bank do not want to do business with him. It is far from clear what lender is going to take him on as a client. He might need help from his overseas authoritarian friends.

    Trump may also face a federal criminal investigation for seeking to change election results in Georgia during two phone calls with state election officials — one of which was recorded. In addition to potential federal crimes for election offenses, prosecutors will need to look at whether his vague threat of criminal liability in his call with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger qualified as extortion.

    That was all before we got to his Jan. 6 activities. Federal investigators and the U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C., as well as senior Justice Department officials will need to determine whether there is a basis to charge Trump with incitement to riot or conspiracy to commit sedition. They will look not simply at Trump’s remarks that day, but also his tweet calling for “wild” protests in the capital, his rhetoric after the election and his conduct during the siege, when he failed to issue a clear, unequivocal directive for his people to stand down. (That the president managed to issue a statement on the day of his second impeachment proactively calling for “NO violence, NO lawbreaking and NO vandalism of any kind” makes his hours-long silence on Jan. 6 look even worse.)

    Beyond criminal liability, Trump could surely be sued by the relatives of those killed or injured in the siege, or to cover the costs incurred to repair damage. He cannot be sued for “official conduct,” but leading a riot to overturn an election will be difficult to slot into the category of “official duties,” to put it mildly. It was a continuation of his campaign intended to give him a second term, not to effectuate any policy or interest during his existing term.

    Even on the slim chance that Trump is never charged with any crime and manages to escape all civil liability, he will be deeply in debt (his original debt plus any costs to defend himself in court). He will also be a social and business pariah, banned from social media and unwelcome in most democratic countries. It is not clear how many people are going to pay to belong to a seditionist’s Mar-a-Lago Club or stay at any of his properties.

    One can surely understand why the prospect of losing was so terrifying for him — aside from the humiliation. Quite simply, he faces a miserable post-presidency.
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    Ho hum.

    Nothing but leftist propaganda perpetuated by slave FORD regurgitating bearded hipsters and and that Dog Shit Inc. Dumb Turks. I am convinced now that slave FORD is incapable of independent thought which proves my theory right that he is nothing more than a Koch-funded tool.
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    I agree... Trump's post-presidency life is most likely going to be a steady stream of shit-shows. There's quite a few vindictive assholes fighting for a prominent place in line to go after his ass...

    BTW... the bust of Lincoln photographed leaving the White House office complex was being returned to the museum that had loaned it to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Ho hum.

    Nothing but leftist propaganda perpetuated by slave FORD regurgitating bearded hipsters and and that Dog Shit Inc. Dumb Turks. I am convinced now that slave FORD is incapable of independent thought which proves my theory right that he is nothing more than a Koch-funded tool.

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    Missing your dead sugar daddy that much, slave FORD?


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    Nah, if I wanted to talk to David Koch, I'd ask Satan for his number.

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