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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    There's no money in a cure for the common cold. The money is in the treatment. Pharma isn't going to give that up. OTC treatments are a cash cow.
    There's no money in measles or rubella either, but somehow we have vaccines for them...

    The fucking common cold didn't kill 500,000 Americans in a year or so,,,
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    It's rather amazing and sad. I start an innocuous thread on thread on the vaccine(s) and everyone has to become a complete asshole, including me.....

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    FFS people what a dumb argument.

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    Yeah well who follows who around shit talking?

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    Don't delete this fucking thread. If my post count goes down, I'm gonna be PISSED!

    lol

    Who used to bitch about post count? I don't remember.
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    There used to be whole threads where people would just post anything to add to their count.

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    Five stars, please.

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    i cUNt giT dA sHoT... i'mm t2Oo yoUNG... tHeY wON"T eVuN sChEdULE mmmE yEt...
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    If nothing else, I really need to add to my post count...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Yeah well who follows who around shit talking?
    Well all 8 of the active posters on this site could each go hang in a separate forum and yell at the others from a far... How fun would that be..?

    I suppose you could call it social distancing... I doubt there will ever be a vaccine for assholes on the Roth Army...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    If nothing else, I really need to add to my post count...
    That's all I'm here for: padding my post count.

    Oh, and the smut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Well all 8 of the active posters on this site could each go hang in a separate forum and yell at the others from a far... How fun would that be..?

    I suppose you could call it social distancing... I doubt there will ever be a vaccine for assholes on the Roth Army...
    Had to physically laugh out loud reading that one.

    Am I one of the 8, or should I do my yelling from a different sub-forum?

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    The tension is getting to me admittedly.

    But let's get back on topic! If you can get the vaccine, any which one, get it! Herd immunity already is taking hold and let's keep it going! Fuck this fucking virus!

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    The ought to call it SammyHagar-19!





    Too much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Had to physically laugh out loud reading that one.

    Am I one of the 8, or should I do my yelling from a different sub-forum?
    Stick around here... you're one of the VIP Elite™ members. LOL

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    Well, considering it is a trademarked group, I'll stay.

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    The whole issue regarding vaccines is trust. People want to know for sure they are safe with no bad side effects. People don’t trust big corporations or the government anymore. They remember some people were permantly damaged by the swine flu vaccine when that was pushed on the public in 1976.

    In fact that’s the whole issue with our politics and everything else. One side doesn’t trust the other side. All the arguing in the world doesn’t fix that reality. So you get one side or the other trying to out maneuver and strong arm the other and forcing them to do stuff. That never ends well.
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    The vaccine isn't on a 'side' and neither is the virus.

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    The vaccination rollout up here in Cascadia has been ridiculously slow. When the vaccines were first available they did the health care workers first, which of course makes perfect sense. Then they moved on to the old folks, and that's where it really seemed to slow down to a snail's pace. My 79 year old mother finally got her first shot last Friday. It was the Pfizer, which apparently is less likely to cause a bad reaction than the Moderna stuff. She had a mild fever and had to keep hydrated the day after, but that's about it for a reaction. Not even a sore arm. Hope the second shot goes as well in a couple weeks. As for me.... fuck if I know when I'll even be "eligible", but I have serious doubts that everybody's going to be vaccinated "by the end of May" like Joe seems to think will happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    fuck if I know when I'll even be "eligible", but I have serious doubts that everybody's going to be vaccinated "by the end of May" like Joe seems to think will happen.
    Have you not been paying attention? Joe doesn't have the ability to think.
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    Maybe not, but that never stopped Reagan, Chimpy, or the Orange Asshole, did it?

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    Still waiting but yes I'm getting the shot. Want to travel end of this year as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    And the Orange Cunt had one in January along with his anchor-baby wife, which they've kept secret...

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    He's so full of shit it's ridiculous.

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    Doesn't sound like Trump was considered for the ad anyways

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/11/polit...ine/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppg960 View Post
    Still waiting but yes I'm getting the shot. Want to travel end of this year as well.
    but...but...but you'll end up in a Bill Gates FEMA camp where the Pleadians hire Raptors as Gods to microchip for slave labor to work on Nazi colonies that are on Mars. That's when the "vaccine" sterilizes your ball sack to where your Montrose cover band goo only makes series Mexican rapist and drug dealing babies who merge with Meghan Markle black babies to take over the word for the New World Order! Then the Raptors will open up their Star Gates (geddit? "Gates""???) that only allow for giant Chinese beetles to take over American neighborhoods to indoctrinate your children into COMMUNISM.

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    Don't care. All I know is that it comes time for me to qualify for the Bill Gates FEMA camps/NAZI poison mind control vaccine I'm going to take it right up the shitbox and stone myself stupid while Biden cums for the guns.

    *BTW Cums For The Guns is a great band name

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    Cums for the guns sounds like a Goat and Your Mom song about a gang bang.

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    FundaMENTAList Preacher John "Fat Bastard" Hagee said that JESUS was the Vaccine....

    ....but lined up to get himself shot with a needle as soon as he had the opportunity.

    Infamous televangelist who declared ĎJesus is the vaccineí mocked in local newspaper after getting a real vaccine
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    San Antonio megachurch pastor John Hagee contracted COVID-19 back in October after hosting numerous indoor church services that were lax on pandemic guidelines. Speaking to his congregation in November after he recovered, he suggested to his followers that their faith in Jesus is enough to protect them from the virus.

    "I bring under the authority of Jesus Christ every sickness and every disease and especially the COVID thing that's sweeping this nation," he said at the time. "We have a vaccine. The name is Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God. Let Him sweep through this country and heal the righteous who dare to ask for it. Heal our church members. Restore them rapidly. Let the name of Jesus Christ be exalted, because He is Lord over all."

    Nevertheless, Hagee went ahead and got the COVID vaccine, according to a statement to ABC News from his church -- a move that his hometown newspaper the San Antonio Current slammed as the epitome of hypocrisy.

    "While it's true that prayer and medicine aren't mutually exclusive, that certainly wasn't the message Hagee was sharing with his flock last fall," the Current's Sanford Nowlin writes. "After contracting COVID-19, the 80-year-old pastor seemed to imply that Jesus' blessing was all it took to beat the pandemic."

    "One only needed to tune in Cornerstone's Sunday broadcasts to see how Pastor Assclown's followers read that message," Nowlin added. "Largely unmasked, they sat crowded together in the pews as a huge choir belted out praise songs."

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    Im not a religious man..I am scheduled for first Moderna shot tomorrow..
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    You still can catch COVID after getting the vaccine but data is showing those who have been vaccinated by the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines have had less severe symptoms than those who did not have the vaccine. Some people think we are building herd immunity with vaccines but mRNA vaccines do not give you a dilute dose like a traditional vaccine dose. So still be careful because you still can get sick.

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    An Israeli study concluded that 2-3 weeks after the 2nd Pfizer dose one had a 98.9% protection rate against severe symptoms, hospitalization or death...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    An Israeli study concluded that 2-3 weeks after the 2nd Pfizer dose one had a 98.9% protection rate against severe symptoms, hospitalization or death...
    You will still test positive for COVID19 but the mRNA vaccines reduce the severity of the symptoms. Iím looking at data out of a hard hit region in Idaho and nobody who has taken the vaccine has died of it. A few have ended up in the hospital. Out of a hundred vaccinated people itís really reduced the severity of the symptoms.

    People are making the mistake of thinking these vaccines are going to build herd immunity. They arenít a traditional vaccine and donít work that way. Also the effectiveness of mRNA vaccines is short lived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    You will still test positive for COVID19 but the mRNA vaccines reduce the severity of the symptoms. I’m looking at data out of a hard hit region in Idaho and nobody who has taken the vaccine has died of it. A few have ended up in the hospital. Out of a hundred vaccinated people it’s really reduced the severity of the symptoms.

    People are making the mistake of thinking these vaccines are going to build herd immunity. They aren’t a traditional vaccine and don’t work that way. Also the effectiveness of mRNA vaccines is short lived.
    THEY ALREADY ARE building herd immunity! In many places transmission is way down, or at least was, despite an slow inoculation campaign. Stop pretending you know what the fuck you are talking about...

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    I believe you can't discount a certain percentage of herd immunity given the number of positive cases overall and the tiny amount of reinfections. Combine that with the vaccine rollout and that's driving numbers way down.

    None of this is absolute and there's going to be statistical exceptions but the reporting numbers are real clear.

    At least in Arkansas, which I track... from early January we've dropped from over 4000 new cases a day to 100-200 currently. Hospitalizations from 1400 to less than 200.

    I will say that week in February where we had record snow and below freezing/zero temperatures really knocked the numbers way down as people just couldn't get out and most business fully shut down. Not advocating that level of shut down be implemented in any way... but you can't deny the significant fall off in numbers. Yes, testing dropped, but came right back up afterwards and there was no spike or rebound. The numbers just kept falling, especially the percent positive which is trending below 2% from a high of near 25%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    THEY ALREADY ARE building herd immunity! In many places transmission is way down, or at least was, despite an slow inoculation campaign. Stop pretending you know what the fuck you are talking about...
    Not because of mRNA vaccines. They do not expose you to the virus. They simply reprogram how your cells work. The Johnson & Johnson vaccine can. The mRNA vaccines simply reduce the symptoms if you catch the virus. So to build herd immunity you have to actually be exposed to the virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    I believe you can't discount a certain percentage of herd immunity given the number of positive cases overall and the tiny amount of reinfections. Combine that with the vaccine rollout and that's driving numbers way down.

    None of this is absolute and there's going to be statistical exceptions but the reporting numbers are real clear.

    At least in Arkansas, which I track... from early January we've dropped from over 4000 new cases a day to 100-200 currently. Hospitalizations from 1400 to less than 200.

    I will say that week in February where we had record snow and below freezing/zero temperatures really knocked the numbers way down as people just couldn't get out and most business fully shut down. Not advocating that level of shut down be implemented in any way... but you can't deny the significant fall off in numbers. Yes, testing dropped, but came right back up afterwards and there was no spike or rebound. The numbers just kept falling, especially the percent positive which is trending below 2% from a high of near 25%.
    Also wearing masks really help. You can compare the data from where there were mask mandates to where there were none. The basic flu precautions with the masks. If people would have followed that we could have avoided the economic damaging shutdowns. I’ve been all around where the COVID risk was high but never caught it. I haven’t even had a cold this year. But I wear my mask, I distance and I wash my hands and don’t touch my face. Simple stuff.

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    It’s funny. A lot of my neighbors are retired physicians. They all have different opinions on COVID. It’s like anything else. People never seeing anything the same way.

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