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    Just heard the news via Ultimate Classic Rock website today. In my heart I know it's the right move but I still feel sad, end of an era.
    I first thought it was "quit while you're ahead"or maybe "I'm gonna walk before they make me run." But it's really just Dave knowing when to say when.
    Unfortunately his loyalty to Eddie kept him under wraps for years when he could've still done shows of material he created with John5, or what if EEAS jam night gig happened and it lead to reunion tour? But I agree, why go through the motions on classic VH with unknowns? Just a reminder of faded glory.

    I think Dave still has something to say with his art, podcasts and maybe more music. He might get the itch and do a one-off song (ala Foos Fighters gig) here and there. But that only opens the door for snark and criticism. The A Lil Aint Enough video retirement prognostication is quite ironic but I doubt Gene Simmons is in Dave's head, no room.

    As noted Dave seems to hint at more serious health issues, and the "me an Al" talk makes me wonder if he will be a part of Vegas gigs, but does Al ever "jam" with other bands? I don't recall him ever doing it. Also odd that Dave said it was one and only official retirement announcement. Like no one is going to ask him any questions about it? Even if they did Dave would say "great question" then go off on a tangent.
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    As I said in my usual genius Dave should have retired over 25 years ago. Now I know Dave fell on hard times in the late 90's into the mid 2000's but the fucker should have know his rock 'n roll lifestyle daze were behind him. He simply cannot sing, mainly what I guess it due to irreversible throat damage due to excessive drinking, smoking and not taking care of his vocal chords and many artist do nowadays. I will say he has kept himself in terrific shape over the years while many of his 80's shit bird colleges (can you say Vince Neil?) look like washed-up roadkill. Ben Schneider of Lord Huron (a cool as shit band you old cretins fuckers never heard of) said it best: "A darkness comes for all of us" he wasn't solely talking about death as he was aging and and the effects of aging on the body. From the recent stage shows Roth has performed he looks arthritic, weary and at times lost as to where he is. Roth has fallen on stage more than once - as Keith Richards and that F A T buttfucker from KISS has also done. That is a bad sign that the body can no longer take the physical grind that a what, 2 to 3 hour concert demands. I don't see acts like Springsteen and Madonna lasting much longer although they have taken good care of themselves and as far as I know don't have other underlying health issues.

    I commend Roth for this decision. I really do. His glory days are long behind him, you can only milk nostalgia for so long and there is only so much embarrassment the hardcore fan will tolerate. Roth realizes and has accepted this. I only wish so many in his camp take heed as well.
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    Ozzy couldn't sing or even carry his carcass across the stage. Paul Stanley croaks his way through shows and needs backing tracks to compensate not to mention more pyro and bombs to cover up the fact the band is lethargic and slow.

    But hey, lets all rag on Dave for his shortcomings in recent years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post

    But hey, lets all rag on Dave for his shortcomings in recent years.

    Sure. I'm 100% cool with that.

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    Give us mike and Alex for just one final song appearance…..
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARF View Post
    Give us mike and Alex for just one final song appearance…..
    Alex is in..one to go
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    I feel like Wolf would agree to play Eds parts

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARF View Post
    Give us mike and Alex for just one final song appearance…..
    The problem with that is that then it looks like Ed was the problem why they couldn't all reform.

    Which is probably true of course.
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    Maybe, just maybe they can hire that fucktard hack who currently sings for Journey and Dave can lip-sync to that. Who would know?

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    I think that because this is truly the end of the line for Van Halen, there’s a chance Mike could show up too… especially since this is the end of Dave’s career and possibly his life, you might see a couple surprises. They’re not performing as Van Halen so anything can happen. I feel that Dave ain’t gonna be around much longer, that’s what his final message sounded like.

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    This is beyond fucking depressing….

    Knowing that Sam’s band will be the only Van Halen music touring (albeit generic fucking garbage)

    I’ll bet any money you wanna bet Sam will be on the phone with Alex the day after Dave passes….

    If Dave wasn’t seriously ill, why wouldn’t he just end his touring career and still record new music…… “objects in the rear view mirror are probably me, Ed.” Sounds likes he’s right behind him….
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARF View Post
    Give us mike and Alex for just one final song appearance…..
    If it's just one song.... for the love of God, NOT "Jump".
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    If it's just one song.... for the love of God, NOT "Jump".
    You Can’t Get This Stuff No More

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    Still a few tickets available for Dave's last run when I last looked tickets @ $700 or $1700. I don't think Vegas is doing that well COVID wise so who knows it could all end up even getting postponed or cancelled.

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    It's funny to think back on how fucking insane it seemed at the time to pay a ticket agency(scalper) $150 for 2 second row Tampa arena tickets in 2002...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    If it's just one song.... for the love of God, NOT "Jump".
    Controversial - just bring out Vai to do it while Dave dances around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Pity he only pulled you up one rung...
    You're a riot...
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    Sad to hear the news.

    I'm planning on being in Vegas for one of the shows.

    Would love to meet some of the people here.

    Probably don't remember me, but you folks introduced me to the depths of Dave, along with social media banter before social media was a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Without Eddie, Van Halen was over. I can't imagine who would have wanted Van Halen to have attempted to continue without Eddie...like, who the fuck would have wanted that?
    I can imagine a one time tour with multiple guitarists paying tribute to Ed...

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    I'm hoping he can get Mike, Alex, and Wolfie for one show.

    Make things come full circle in a sort of way

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    If it's One song..

    I want Damn Good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redballjets88 View Post
    Sad to hear the news.

    I'm planning on being in Vegas for one of the shows.

    Would love to meet some of the people here.

    Probably don't remember me, but you folks introduced me to the depths of Dave, along with social media banter before social media was a thing.
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    I remember you...

    You must have some dough these days...

    $700 is WAY too rich for my blood...

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    For his last shows it's worth it.

    As I told my wife... injust can't do the Vegas stuff while there lol

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    Maybe if I were still single I'd jump on a plane and make it happen, but no way right now...

    I'd love to be there but I'm gonna have to settle for Youtube...;(

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    Depending on the overall price I think could convince the wife I need to go solo haha.

    I have 4 kids 6 and under so this kind of stuff is tough.

    But she's super understanding since we've seen 14 phish shows together and went to 3 nights at Madison Square garden to see phsih a fee years ago.

    Experience over material type folks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I can imagine a one time tour with multiple guitarists paying tribute to Ed...
    Don't think they would do a tour like that, but I had thought they might do a one off tribute show, like the Freddie Mercury concert in 1992. If Dave's retiring, this seems unlikely now. Unless they do that in Vegas, which doesn't really seem to be the best venue for such a show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARF View Post
    I feel that Dave ain’t gonna be around much longer, that’s what his final message sounded like.
    Cool. Maybe then he and "his guitar player" can finally be together giving handjobs to G.E. Sus

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    Unless Alex can convince Wolf to show up, I don't see a big time tribute

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    Is anyone else afraid that Dave might be sick?

    I could totally seeing him being the same way as Norm Mcdonald and hiding an illness from the masses because he's not looking for that kind of attention

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redballjets88 View Post
    For his last shows it's worth it.

    As I told my wife... just can't do the Vegas stuff while there lol

    No hookers and tigers?

    I think I remember you posting when you were a teenager.

    $1k for floor tickets on the last night at the moment.

    I would be careful about what you go for in the end. Earlier today I saw 2 sets of 2 tickets. One was a platinum package on the balcony front row @ $1699 and from the same website the seats directly 1 row behind were half that price. Still an insane price but it's all relative I guess. Not sure what the platinum package involves either, probably a $30 bottle champagne and a badge or something lol.

    The sad thing about it being Vegas is that no doubt there will be plenty of disinterested high rollers who will be comped tickets at the last minute on the night by casino handlers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Unless they do that in Vegas, which doesn't really seem to be the best venue for such a show.
    If Alex and Mike were involved I could maybe justify the ticket prices...

    Just sayin...

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    Person-O-lee I think Dave is showing signs of dementia. Some of his latest stage persons seem to confirm my theory. To refer to Eddie as "his guitar player" also substantiate my non-medical bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    The sad thing about it being Vegas is that no doubt there will be plenty of disinterested high rollers who will be comped tickets at the last minute on the night by casino handlers.
    I would hope not, but you may be right...

    I may be crazy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Person-O-lee I think Dave is showing signs of dementia.
    Oh shaddup...

    Dave is still Dave !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redballjets88 View Post
    Is anyone else afraid that Dave might be sick?

    I could totally seeing him being the same way as Norm Mcdonald and hiding an illness from the masses because he's not looking for that kind of attention
    Not sure but I took that as worries about his back etc.

    A pinch of salt with Dave is always needed. Half the thing he has posted is about scraping together food and so on back in the day and ok he has told stories about his Mum being tough but the bottom line is he did literally live in a huge mansion in Pasadena during the time he describes so the starving musician thing is a bit meh. There will be some truth in it as at that age you would rather slum it with pals than go back home but hey it's all a bit of a romantic story.
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    I would hope not, but you may be right...

    I may be crazy...
    With the retirement more so because it becomes something of an 'event'.

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    Person-O-lee I think Dave is showing signs of dementia. Some of his latest stage persons seem to confirm my theory. To refer to Eddie as "his guitar player" also substantiate my non-medical bias.
    That would mean that at least 50% of singers from bar bands to arenas were suffering from dementia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    With the retirement more so because it becomes something of an 'event'.
    If people know who Dave is these days...

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    Since that song pretty much called Eddie a liar, that might be in bad taste to play it now.

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    Dave has shown signs of schizophrenia at times.

    It matters little to me as long as he's in his element

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