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    ChickenCult

    So it looks like the Chedmaster & Sobolewski have teamed up with Billy Duffy & Matt Sorum. Honestly, Mikey don't sound half bad with them... as usual, the vocals & lyrics are the weakest link....

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    Gave it two listens.

    Typical Hagar stuff.

    Pretty basic, non-descript hard rock. Given the pedigree of the people involved, on paper one might expect a bit more in terms of capability, even strictly from a songwriting perspective. To my ears, it was four guys just playing for the sake of playing...certainly not trying to push themselves very hard. Just playing it safe in the comfort zone. Which is what it is assuming that's what they want to do, but in terms of resonance this track won't even come close to matching the life expectancy of a medfly...just in-one-ear-out-the-other stuff to me, much like most of what, say, the Foo Fighters have done...or Wolfgang Van Halen's Mammoth music.

    It's kinda gotten to the point for me with a lot of these older, established rock acts/musicians where I wonder why they even bother making new music, because the vast bulk of it sounds like it is all just going through the motions. That includes the more recent stuff put out by AC/DC: I've heard this type of stuff too often before, and done quite a bit better decades ago.
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    All his writing post VH is super obvious, thoughtless, by the numbers forgettable nothing.

    Like Chickenshit stuff this sounds like it was written in 20 minutes.
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    Duffy must be hurting. He recently sold his house in Smell-A
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Duffy must be hurting. He recently sold his house in Smell-A
    I doubt it. He's bought a big house in England with his ex glamour model fiancee 20 years his junior.

    You would like her she recently came out against F A T people causing COVID lock downs.





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    The Cult are doing an arena tour here next year supporting Alice Cooper, I think he's ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    All his writing post VH is super obvious, thoughtless, by the numbers forgettable nothing.

    Like Chickenshit stuff this sounds like it was written in 20 minutes.
    It definitely does feel like it was tossed off quickly by four guys who - for whatever reason - are well pleased with what they are doing in terms of quality.

    I mean, one would hope this is the case, because if they actually had made a concerted effort and this was the best they could come up with...I'd have a hard time imagining even people well-disposed to much of what Hagar has done in the past would or could get enthused about this track.

    But that's the thing about Hagar...all that Sam vs. Dave "who was the better Van Halen singer" bullshit to one side and just taking what Hagar did as a solo artist before Van Halen, his time in Van Halen and what he did after Van Halen on its own terms...Hagar has more often than not come across to me as being very easily satisfied with this average level of ability he displays...certainly where the lyrics are concerned, but many times on an instrumental level, definitely when Hagar was more active as a guitar player.

    You could hear it with Van Halen as early as the second album with Hagar in the band, where it was clear that Hagar wasn't going to push Eddie musically in any way: Hagar was going to take whatever Eddie threw his way and put what he wanted on top of it. So you start getting these lazy tracks where the band is just coasting to no particular effect. Mundane stuff like Black And Blue, Sucker In A 3 Piece, Judgement Day, Man On A Mission, Top Of The World, In And Out, Can't Stop Loving You being to me some of the most noticeable examples of just lazy coasting. You'd get at least two to three tracks on each Van Hagar album where the tunes came across as fobbed off, uninspired, lazily performed, slapped on and thrown out there because by that point in their career Van Halen could get away with it.

    Once Hagar left Van Halen, that laziness continued. Take a piece of shit like Mas Tequila, which is just a slightly reworked version of that Gary Glitter Rock And Roll Part 2 song with some dumb lyrics...or how lazy the Chickenfoot output has sounded, even when Satriani was in the band!

    Hagar has always been just too easily satisfied...really, the last time I can remember him really putting in an effort was on the first Van Hagar album, in terms of the vocals...probably because Hagar felt he had something to prove: once he was securely in the band with the first album and tour behind them, Hagar reverted back to being easily satisfied...which was just around the point where Ed felt he had nothing left to prove, either.

    Lazy, lazy Sammy. The path of least resistance and easily self-satisfied, thus you get the mediocre to average results he has provided for the vast bulk of his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    I doubt it. He's bought a big house in England with his ex glamour model fiancee 20 years his junior.

    You would like her she recently came out against F A T people causing COVID lock downs.





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    The Cult are doing an arena tour here next year supporting Alice Cooper, I think he's ok.
    Glamour model?

    Admittedly, I'd think she was good-looking if I saw her face/bod amongst a bunch of smut clips I were about to rub one out to.

    In other words, not an unattractive gal, but when I think Glamour Model - and maybe it's just my own definition of the term - I'm thinking Cindy Crawford or along those (admittedly antiquated) lines.

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    Mona Johannesson is a "glamour" model. Duffy appears to have a woman who likes to dig for his gold.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Glamour model?

    Admittedly, I'd think she was good-looking if I saw her face/bod amongst a bunch of smut clips I were about to rub one out to.

    In other words, not an unattractive gal, but when I think Glamour Model - and maybe it's just my own definition of the term - I'm thinking Cindy Crawford or along those (admittedly antiquated) lines.
    Yep, run of the mill porn whore...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Yep, run of the mill porn whore...
    I mean, doesn't that pic look like a porn actress posing at the initial stages of a photo shoot before she disrobes? And there's nothing wrong with that, but the phrase 'glamour model' doesn't immediately spring to mind, either.

    Went to the trouble of googling her, as I'd never heard of her before. Seemingly, she hit her high-water mark a decade or so ago in terms of cultural relevance...couple of B-league reality shows, was a lingerie model in her late teens/early 20s, posed topless for The Sun, did some posing for Maxim, dated a professional football (soccer) player, then a high-end restaurant owner, married, divorced, has been dating Duffy for two years. Her fame seems more pronounced in the UK/Europe. I guess the sum total of her career could be summarized as that of a glamour model...although given the listings of her past romantic relationships, Duffy circa 2019-2021 seems like a downward trajectory, though truth be told her career from everything I could gather peaked a decade ago...doubtless, were I Duffy, I'd be well pleased...

    Not a bad-looking lady by any means, but to my eyes nothing exceptional in terms of the numerous lingerie/Page 3 Sun/Maxim model types.

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    High milage poontang...

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    Oh my, this hurts me hard. Half of the Cult, one of my fave bands (because of the Electric album), compromising with Gaygar... if only the instrumental part was worth it, but it isn't at all. Billy Duffy is supposed to be a damn well inspired guitar player, isn't he?? Can't imagine anything that's more banal and uninteresting than this. There's no point in recording such crap, all the more so with Haggis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jérôme Frenchise View Post
    Oh my, this hurts me hard. Half of the Cult, one of my fave bands (because of the Electric album), compromising with Gaygar... if only the instrumental part was worth it, but it isn't at all. Billy Duffy is supposed to be a damn well inspired guitar player, isn't he?? Can't imagine anything that's more banal and uninteresting than this. There's no point in recording such crap, all the more so with Haggis.
    The thing of it is...whenever talented musicians hook up with Hagar...it invariably never results in those musicians producing with Hagar on vocals what most would deem to be their best or most memorable work.

    Unless someone wants to make the case that Eddie Van Halen, Neal Schon, Joe Satriani and now Billy Duffy all came up with their best (or best known) work once they joined a band with Hagar. In point of fact, with those four guitarists, once they hooked up with Hagar the material produced is generally thought of as of a lesser caliber in comparison to what most would consider their career high water marks.

    Sammy just has that effect of making everything he is involved with b-grade.

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    Satch probably made the best of it. I remember a friend playing it in his car, and I could squelch out the screeching. The guitar was pretty good.
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