Ted Nugent: David Lee Roth Was ‘Out of His Mind’ When We Met

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Mushroom
    Commando
    • Jul 2009
    • 1122

    Ted Nugent: David Lee Roth Was ‘Out of His Mind’ When We Met

    Terrible Ted wishes he could connect with Dave. Ted has a cerebral connection to Sammy Hagar. LoL


    https://ultimateclassicrock.com/ted-...avid-lee-roth/

    Ted Nugent said he couldn’t have a meaningful conversation with David Lee Roth because the Van Halen frontman was “out of his mind” on drugs.

    The guitarist’s comments came during a recent interview on the Paltrocast With Darren Paltrowitz. Asked about Roth, Nugent was initially complimentary.

    “I admire and praise his entertainment gifts; he's a monster,” the “Cat Scratch Fever” guitarist declared. “Tell me that all that David Lee Roth music with Van Halen isn't a smile eruption in our life. I mean, what a fun, cocky, soulful guy. He really does evoke, emulate and deliver touches of James Brown and Wilson Pickett and some Motown melodious grunt, and certainly the blues and the gospel and the rhythm and blues masters. You can hear that in David Lee Roth.”

    Nugent -- who said he’d interacted with Roth “a few times” over the years -- then went on to explain why he couldn’t have a “meaningful” conversation with the frontman.

    "I've always been militantly against substance abuse. And it's an absolute crime -- literally and figuratively -- and David's a perfect example. Again, I love him -- I hope he's happy, I hope he's healthy. He seems to know what happiness and health is; God bless him. Thank you, David, for enriching our lives with your incredible music. God bless you. But tragically -- and this goes to Eddie [Van Halen] too, and my encounters with Jimi Hendrix and so many people -- you couldn't have a meaningful dialogue. It was all stoned disconnect.”

    Nugent then compared his experience with Roth to the positive interactions he’d had with other artists.

    “When I sat down with B.B. King and when I sit down with a Joe Perry and a Steven Tyler, even though there were moments when it was hopeless -- there were moments… Sammy Hagar's a perfect example. We have a meaningful, man-to-man, human-to-human, fun, deep bullshit session, because he's in tune with himself, and he's real good at getting out of tune with himself. But my point is, I think it's important to note that the incredible amount of hours that I've been honored and humbled to spend with some of the most powerful music authorities in the world, there was nothing to be shared because they were drunk or stoned... All those moments reinforce my anger and hate for people who leave the world to drop out comfortably numb. They don't make anybody happy [when they do that].”

    Ultimately, the Motor City Madman lamented his interactions with Roth, adding it would have been great if the two had been able to truly connect.

    “Wouldn't it have been great for a smart-ass like David Lee Roth and a smart-ass like Ted Nugent to discuss the art of smart-ass? I would have loved to have had that conversation, but there was no chance for it. The guy was out of his mind."
  • Terry
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 11957

    #2
    I recall an interview of Nugent's...this was literally decades ago now...maybe 198..2? It was in (I think) Guitar Player magazine, and Nugent had mentioned that he had met Hendrix, Hendrix had offered him a toke on the joint he was smoking, Nugent declined and Hendrix gave him a quizzical look.

    I never really thought of Roth along those lines of a drug casualty, even in terms of a rock star who though they didn't die clearly took too many drugs/alcohol to the point where they had obviously fucked themselves up so badly that their output after the drug use was over was basically forever diminished specifically because of their substance abuse. And I still really don't think about Roth along those lines. Doubtless Roth has gotten fucked up here and there along the way, but Roth's output was usually fairly creative and his energy and enthusiasm for whatever he was doing at the time - even with projects where I wasn't thrilled at the end results - never seemed to wane.
    Scramby eggs and bacon.

    Comment

    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49125

      #3
      Nugent is so full of shit about his straight edge act. He's drank alcohol and did drugs - maybe not the extent of other musicians, but he indeed partook and is a windbag mostly full of shit...

      Comment

      • Seshmeister
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Oct 2003
        • 35155

        #4
        Nugent is a fucking idiot and full of shit (when he isn't covering himself in it to beat the draft).

        For a start listen to the interview he did on The David Lee Roth Show radio thing that seemed to go well enough.

        http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showt...-The-lost-show!


        His problem is probably that Roth is way smarter and talking about things that Nugent has no clue about like books and stuff.

        Also he lies about not drinking, Von has seen him drinking beers backstage pretty recently.

        Comment

        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49125

          #5
          I know a guy that played with St. Holmes, said Nuge did plenty of drugs. He's a fucking libertarian FFS, of course he did!

          If he turned down Hendrix's offer of blunt, it's because it wasn't coke!

          Comment

          • Seshmeister
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Oct 2003
            • 35155

            #6
            I trolled him close to 20 years ago now posing as Joe Rogan until Rogan asked me not to.

            This goes back to when here and the Joe Rogan forum were two pretty wild west places on the internet and there ended up being a bit of cross traffic. Rogan had posted that Nugent's forum which was not public you had to register to see any of it, was pretty fucked up. I registered as Joe Rogan and some of the stuff on there was out there - the public Nugent that liberals even then would get up tight about was nothing compared to the persona he showed his inner circle of fans who a lot of whom would now be (or are) Proud Boys types. Also incredible amounts of very strong US military supporting stuff not long after 9-11 at a site like that was not surprising but I've never quite understood how Nugent managed to slip through his history to become the leading light on that among a certain group of people. What do I know, Trump won over the evangelicals.

            I went on there with a super extreme right wing persona troll (obviously) to see how far they would go and Rogan got in touch saying it was funny shit but requested I stop doing it under his name which I did. This back when he was the bug eating show guy posting every day that anyone who got married or had kids was a pathetic fucking loser.

            Different times.

            For some reason the thread that Nugent had put up that I always remember was all this stuff about how he liked to shoot songbirds from his porch before breakfast. He described how you could set up a bird table at a certain range and how it was really good practice and fun to sit blowing them away in the morning because their small size made it challenging and improved your hunting skills. I don't usually give a second thought to songbirds but for some reason that thread bugged me.

            Both the Rogan forum and the Nugent one are now long gone.

            Comment

            • Terry
              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
              • Jan 2004
              • 11957

              #7
              Interesting stuff about Nugent and the drugs/alcohol...to a degree.

              I never was all that crazy about Nugent, even before he became better-known for his political stances than his music.

              I do have a sort of vague memory of being a kid in the mid to late 1970s and hearing Cat Scratch Fever played on the radio quite a bit when it was a hit.

              Maybe 7 or so years after that, come the mid 1980s when I was jamming with garage bands, one of my garage band buds who was a couple of years older than me had a bunch of Nugent's stuff, mostly on vinyl. By 1984-1985, nobody really gave a shit about Ted Nugent anymore - from what I remember, he wasn't getting much play on the radio of any kind, and if he was making promo music videos I don't recall MTV playing them - but my bud would keep telling me how great Nugent was. Thus, I listened to a bunch of Nugent's stuff in the mid-1980s...

              It never really...took, or whatever. One of those things where, like...doubtless Nugent had his moment around 1976 or 1977 or 1978 or so in terms of big time fame. But I never could really get enthused about his music or his guitar playing. And in the 1980s Nugent was pretty easy to ignore in terms of he wasn't having whatever interviews he gave being widely distributed or broadcasted or whatever.

              It wasn't really until the late 1990s when Nugent started appearing on shows like Politically Incorrect as a guest that I got a big blast of his Crazy Gun Toting Hunter Loving Ted Nugent persona or personality.

              Whatever. He's still pretty easy to ignore these days, in that maybe outside of the song Stranglehold being played once in a blue moon on terrestrial classic rock radio I never hear his music.
              Scramby eggs and bacon.

              Comment

              • twonabomber
                formerly F A T
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Jan 2004
                • 11201

                #8
                If you could convince a stripper to play Stranglehold you'd get a long lap dance for $10.

                Other than that, I got nothin'.
                Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

                Comment

                • Seshmeister
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Oct 2003
                  • 35155

                  #9
                  Straight from the forthcoming Twona life hacks book

                  Comment

                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49125

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Seshmeister
                    I trolled him close to 20 years ago now posing as Joe Rogan until Rogan asked me not to.

                    This goes back to when here and the Joe Rogan forum were two pretty wild west places on the internet and there ended up being a bit of cross traffic. Rogan had posted that Nugent's forum which was not public you had to register to see any of it, was pretty fucked up. I registered as Joe Rogan and some of the stuff on there was out there - the public Nugent that liberals even then would get up tight about was nothing compared to the persona he showed his inner circle of fans who a lot of whom would now be (or are) Proud Boys types. Also incredible amounts of very strong US military supporting stuff not long after 9-11 at a site like that was not surprising but I've never quite understood how Nugent managed to slip through his history to become the leading light on that among a certain group of people. What do I know, Trump won over the evangelicals.

                    I went on there with a super extreme right wing persona troll (obviously) to see how far they would go and Rogan got in touch saying it was funny shit but requested I stop doing it under his name which I did. This back when he was the bug eating show guy posting every day that anyone who got married or had kids was a pathetic fucking loser.

                    Different times.

                    For some reason the thread that Nugent had put up that I always remember was all this stuff about how he liked to shoot songbirds from his porch before breakfast. He described how you could set up a bird table at a certain range and how it was really good practice and fun to sit blowing them away in the morning because their small size made it challenging and improved your hunting skills. I don't usually give a second thought to songbirds but for some reason that thread bugged me.

                    Both the Rogan forum and the Nugent one are now long gone.
                    I've often wondered that if someone broke into Ted Nugent's house, if he would shit himself and pretend to be gay to get out of it?

                    Comment

                    • Seshmeister
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35155

                      #11
                      According to Snopes the story about him covering himself in his own shit to avoid the Vietnam draft hasn't been verified but I think that's because the source of the story was Nugent himself back in the day so either way WTF.

                      He did get a medical deferment but there is no record now if it was for mental reasons or not. It appears he had an education deferment but then had to get another one, probably because he was thrown out of college. It was a stupid horrible war especially by that point and many of us might have tried to get out of it, the reason for bringing it up is the spectacular hypocrisy of him always being so desperate to send other American kids to war.

                      There is of course also the dodgy guardianship of a 17 year old when he was 30 to beat under age consent laws and the fact he denied COVID even existed right until he caught it earlier this year.
                      Last edited by Seshmeister; 12-08-2021, 12:42 AM.

                      Comment

                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 58755

                        #12
                        You don't write a song like this without being high......

                        Eat Us And Smile

                        Cenk For America 2024!!

                        Justice Democrats


                        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

                        Comment

                        • Terry
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 11957

                          #13
                          That's right...I had forgotten Nugent was a draft-dodger.

                          Which, certainly within the context of the Vietnam War, I can understand, although I would be willing to bet more than a few of the Vietnam-era men who dodged the draft weren't doing it so much out of any principles re: the particular harshness of the Vietnam War but merely not wanting to go to any war and risk being killed, which is certainly an understandable sentiment.

                          But it's the chicken hawk nature of those dodgers afterward who, in subsequent wars, were all "rah rah" about sending the US military in to fight, convenient for those chicken hawks in that they wouldn't be doing any of the fighting because they were by then too old to be conscripted and because after Vietnam the draft had been abolished. THAT attitude is reprehensible: advocate for armed conflict as necessary on occasion to re-establish international order or whatever, but only as a last resort, and not something to be cheered on...if war was a serious enough business to be dodged/avoided, then surely it is still a serious enough business to avoid jingoistic sloganeering to propagate the need for it.

                          Yeah, I am sort of remembering now why Nugent's Super Patriot Rock Man persona was a bit hollow...but hey, he got to have his picture taken in the Oval Office next to Donald Trump and Sarah Palin, so I guess it was all worth it.
                          Scramby eggs and bacon.

                          Comment

                          • Von Halen
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Dec 2003
                            • 7607

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Seshmeister

                            Also he lies about not drinking, Von has seen him drinking beers backstage pretty recently.
                            Ha ha! Not that "recent" anymore Sesh! That was on the Roth/Clichegar tour! He was hanging with Clichegar backstage and yes, had a drink in his hand. Even so, I don't believe NickDelusional's friend of a friend of a friends cousin, that Nugent did drugs. He's a whacky dude for sure, but I don't believe he ever did the drug thing. As far as his comments about Roth, those I believe. I have no problem with what he said, as it is more than likely true. Ted isn't the first person to accuse Roth of partaking in drug use.

                            Ted bailed out of Michigan for Texas many years ago now. Supposedly he burned a lot of people out of money before he left. He used to keep places in both States, as he has always been a massive Michigan supporter. But he rarely comes back anymore, or says much about Michigan these days. Probably because of our ignorant illiterate cunt of Governor.

                            Speaking of NickDelusional, I'll be in downtown Buffalo tonight Nick. Want to go to the ghetto and get some wings, or are you still scared to venture out of whiteyville?

                            Comment

                            • Kristy
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 16337

                              #15
                              I find it odd that the Teddy Boy gave any interview where he is not sucking Alex Jone$ dick.

                              Comment

                              Working...