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    Apparently mobilized conscripts are now calling Ukraine's mobile "How to Surrender Hotline"...
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    Ukraine just applied for NATO membership



    Believe they are going to get it, too
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    The Russians are losing and badly, with some of their best units like "Guards" and airborne forces being eviscerated in both the Kharkiv and Kherson Oblasts. Glory to the Ukraine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    The Russians are losing and badly, with some of their best units like "Guards" and airborne forces being eviscerated in both the Kharkiv and Kherson Oblasts. Glory to the Ukraine!
    I’m amazed how many Russian soldiers only had iron sights and AK sights are the worst. An AK-74 isn’t bad with a red dot on it. The scope the Venezuelan military uses isn’t bad. Modern sights are a HUGE game changer and add in night vision and that’s what you have to have on the modern battlefield.

    So in many ways Russia is still a World War II military. They still use the old Soviet tactics of over whelm the enemy with big barrages of low tech weaponry.
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    We would be hurting Putin even more if we were pumping the oil like we were. Russia is an oil economy.

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    Clearly we are having an energy war. Someone wants to be the long term supplier of gas and oil to Europe. This really isn’t a fight between countries. It’s a fight amongst oligarchs. It’s more to do with pipelines than anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Iím amazed how many Russian soldiers only had iron sights and AK sights are the worst. An AK-74 isnít bad with a red dot on it. The scope the Venezuelan military uses isnít bad. Modern sights are a HUGE game changer and add in night vision and thatís what you have to have on the modern battlefield.
    The 74 variants was decently accurate and ballistics-wise are somewhat inferior to the NATO 5.56mm rounds but in the end it really doesn't make much difference. Most Ukrainian units use the same and even inferior, older renderings. Most of the Russian paratroops around Kyiv carrying the AK-12 were killed or captured and of course their rifles are used in Ukraine service. I'm guessing a few elite special forces units of the Ukrainians might use NATO rifles on raids. But firearms wise they're pretty equal - except many of the Russian rifles were only dropped once and never fired...

    So in many ways Russia is still a World War II military. They still use the old Soviet tactics of over whelm the enemy with big barrages of low tech weaponry.
    They were a much better military at the end of WWII, a great maneuver army featuring American made Dodge, GM, Ford and Jeep transport. But the modern Russian Army has been short on infantry (manpower) support and is an army of thieves and conmen. Couple that with a political leadership that sent even their best units into the Ukraine without telling them they were going to war and the obvious is obvious...

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    I’m talking about optics and not so much the rifles. I’ve shot M16’s. I’ve shot lot’s of different AK’s including the 74. AK’s tend to bounce really bad. They aren’t stable like a M16 with it’s inline recoil and buffer system. The AK-74 is the best shooting of all of them due to a smaller round and the big ass muzzle break. So the AK-74 and M16 would be both in the same ball park. Some people have problems with quick reloads on the AK. You can fuck those up by missing the front catch.

    Anyways it’s about getting hits and the big game changer is optics. Iron sights are a thing of the past. It’s why you are seeing red dot sights on the newer carry pistols. You can get quicker more accurate hits. One contractor told me red dots were such an advantage he JP Welded a red dot on top of a MP5. Anyways the guys with the good night vision and sights have a huge advantage over guys with just iron sights. If you have iron sights and can’t see or place shots you go to full auto and spray and pray and waste ammo and hardly hit anything.

    I could live with an AK-74 with a decent sight on the side rail.

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    The Ukrainians have vastly superior night vision capabilities and Western optics and even rifles are increasingly showing up on the battlefield there...

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    Yeah with the billions we are sending them they should have good equipment by now. You saw a lot of USP-1 scopes on AK-74’s in the beginning. I shot an AK-74 with one mounted on it. The scope was better than iron sights but it was heavy and mounted really high and off to the side. The rifle had a fixed stock. So you had to do a chin weld and lean far forward to get a sight picture. The ergonomics just sucked. Not the best for a quick sight acquisition at all. I’m used to a red dot mounted far forward on the receiver and I shoot with both eyes open. You can’t do it with that Russian system where you are straining to look through a rubber eye piece. You are stuck with one mounting position as well.

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    Anyways like always the defense contractors make out like bandits. This whole Ukraine situation could have been avoided but someone wants it. It does benefit China. China benefited from our pooch screw pullout of Afghanistan because they got bases, weapons and technology we left there. They will get the raw materials. We get stuck with the bill. Since we left weapons there those need to be replaced and now we are supplying the Ukraine and giving them billions. It never stops. Food for thought, we spent more on the Ukraine this year than we spent on our own infrastructure.

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    It’s like we are living in a real version of Dr. Strangelove. Putin has launched the doomsday weapon. Kristy is lucky. She can be part of some globalist’s harem and live under the Denver airport. Alex Jones will sneak in and film the sex tape.

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    Ruskie got fragged shot and fragged again. Oh if it only was Jimmy Page.

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    Russian bridge is falling down....falling down....my dear Pooty....

    Sorry for the foreign language video, but it's the only thing that's not in the useless, non-embeddable "youtube shorts" format. That shit's more annoying than TikTok.....



    This bridge WAS the main link between Russia and Crimea. Not anymore.....
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    DikCok is undermining American youth. Ask any MAGA

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    Apparently today was Pooty's birthday. Hope he enjoyed that little present.

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    The RuZZian military, ladies and gentlemen (it gets good @2:20 mark)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Yeah with the billions we are sending them they should have good equipment by now. You saw a lot of USP-1 scopes on AK-74’s in the beginning. I shot an AK-74 with one mounted on it. The scope was better than iron sights but it was heavy and mounted really high and off to the side. The rifle had a fixed stock. So you had to do a chin weld and lean far forward to get a sight picture. The ergonomics just sucked. Not the best for a quick sight acquisition at all. I’m used to a red dot mounted far forward on the receiver and I shoot with both eyes open. You can’t do it with that Russian system where you are straining to look through a rubber eye piece. You are stuck with one mounting position as well.
    They were better with night vision from the onset of the war. Mainly, they didn't sell their stuff online like the Russians did and the little things like optics were already being improved in the Ukrainian military along with the creation of an actual NCO corp of professionals creating a consistently and competency in the Ukraine forces that doesn't exist in the Russian forces that have traditionally outspent the Uk's by several times every year since the end of the Soviet empire - Western aid notwithstanding. The newer rifles like the AK-12/15 the Russians were supposed to adopt (and used on a limited basis by the more elite units like paratroops) had several optics available but I think had better sights in general. But like always, they never seem to manage to equip their forces with much of anything that isn't directly linked to the Soviet state prior to the early 90's. In any case the AK is roughly equivalent to the M-16 and while I think a bit inferior not enough to make a significant difference on the battlefield. The man carrying it is far more important and artillery by far typically causes the most casualties in a near-pear engagement anyways.

    When your "elite" recon/sniper teams are dumb and lazy enough to use the elevator to get to the roof in a shooting war in the country their invading, it doesn't really matter if you're carrying an M-4, Enfield, AR-15, AK-74/12, or a fucking musket....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Anyways like always the defense contractors make out like bandits. This whole Ukraine situation could have been avoided but someone wants it. It does benefit China. China benefited from our pooch screw pullout of Afghanistan because they got bases, weapons and technology we left there. They will get the raw materials. We get stuck with the bill. Since we left weapons there those need to be replaced and now we are supplying the Ukraine and giving them billions. It never stops. Food for thought, we spent more on the Ukraine this year than we spent on our own infrastructure.
    Blah blah blah. You're going to have a hard time rationally trying to sell China's advantage in Afghanistan. What "raw materials" LOL. The weapons and tech we left there were small arms, some choppers and HUMVEES but nothing spectacular and we never needed to replace any of it as a lot of the kit was expired things like M-16A2's which suck anyways. The defense contractors make out every time unfortunately but the Russians and Chinese have their own contractors so a bit of a false equivalency or lack of a real one. The Ukraine War shows that Western weapons and methods are clearly superior and had given China a big pause on its nonsensical Tiawan aspirations. Things like the HIMARS/M270 are vastly superior to anything fielded by either and have effectively destroyed the (falsely) perceived Russian advantage in tube artillery ranges and "area denial" SAMS/AAA. The Russian Air Force is a bad joke, strategic reserves are nonexistent, conventional forces are smashed and will take years to rebuild, and at this point I have questions on the effectiveness of Russian "Strategic Rocket Forces" and other nukes. I don't wanna find out but it seems a real possibility that Russia could lose even a nuclear war with their shit guidance tech....
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Apparently today was Pooty's birthday. Hope he enjoyed that little present.
    I sent his "gift" to Ukrainian forces...

    https://war.ukraine.ua/donate/
    Last edited by Nickdfresh; 10-08-2022 at 04:35 AM.

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    One of the better videos I've seen on the recent war:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    The RuZZian military, ladies and gentlemen (it gets good @2:20 mark)


    Not quibbling but accidents happen in the military. A lot of US service people die every year in stupid HUMVEE accidents because they are kids used to driving their cars with antilock brakes, stability control, surround airbags etc. They then flip their older 1980's tech HUMVEEs with none of that over while taking corners to fast. When I was in the Army a long time ago, I was told 1 in 6 soldiers die in stupid accidents (i.e. falling off a truck, walking into chopper blades) in wars...

    But the video is a good example of a conscript, unprofessionally staffed army with some "contract" professionals running things with a stupid system where greenhorn officer lieutenants and captains do the roles fulfilled by experienced sergeants in Western armies. Not sure why the idiot driver is gunning a diesel engine, the torque should be enough to get up on the trailer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Blah blah blah. You're going to have a hard time rationally trying to sell China's advantage in Afghanistan. What "raw materials" LOL. The weapons and tech we left there were small arms, some choppers and HUMVEES but nothing spectacular and we never needed to replace any of it as a lot of the kit was expired things like M-16A2's which suck anyways. The defense contractors make out every time unfortunately but the Russians and Chinese have their own contractors so a bit of a false equivalency or lack of a real one. The Ukraine War shows that Western weapons and methods are clearly superior and had given China a big pause on its nonsensical Tiawan aspirations. Things like the HIMARS/M270 are vastly superior to anything fielded by either and have effectively destroyed the (falsely) perceived Russian advantage in tube artillery ranges and "area denial" SAMS/AAA. The Russian Air Force is a bad joke, strategic reserves are nonexistent, conventional forces are smashed and will take years to rebuild, and at this point I have questions on the effectiveness of Russian "Strategic Rocket Forces" and other nukes. I don't wanna find out but it seems a real possibility that Russia could lose even a nuclear war with their shit guidance tech....
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...neral-reserves

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    https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/18/busin...ing/index.html

    What mineral wealth? Ha! Ha! Just proved you know nothing about Afghanistan or geopolitics.

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    https://www.defenseone.com/technolog...ecrets/185264/

    We left a lot of electronic equipment that gave us an advantage. It’s the electronics stupid. Not the trucks and shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    I sent his "gift" to Ukrainian forces...

    https://war.ukraine.ua/donate/

    The rebuilding of Ukraine is going to make a lot of people a lot of money. I just hope it is not turned into another Westernized corporate strip mall shithole

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post

    What mineral wealth? Ha! Ha! Just proved you know nothing about Afghanistan or geopolitics.
    Lithium? Make sure you take yours! Who gives a fuck? Thanks for the year old article though. Afghanistan isn't cornering the market on that or anything else and the Chinese may end up spending as much securing it in transport than they make. It's fucking Afghanistan where everything goes to shit but they can have fun projecting their forces there....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    https://www.defenseone.com/technolog...ecrets/185264/

    We left a lot of electronic equipment that gave us an advantage. It’s the electronics stupid. Not the trucks and shit.
    Dude you really are a weirdo with something to prove. Didn't you live there for a while? Another year old article where everything we are talking about is already obsolete. Whatever the Taliban has left is rotting away and they are imploding with a very active insurgency. Most of the Afghan army had shit with mainly the special operations forces having the best most worthwhile stuff. Even the previous Afghan Air Force was falling apart without US contractors to prop them up.

    Please tell us how this treasure trove to tech and knowledge has helped, say, the Russians? The Talib march around looking tough in all their captured Western gear but are pretty much neutered by their ineptitude, economic chaos, and famines...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    ooof!

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    So Long And Thanks For All The Vodka??

    I obviously don't read Russian, so I can't verify the exact purpose of this illustration, but it would appear to be the Russians bragging about all of the ways this bridge was supposedly protected, and could never be destroyed.....



    They even had trained dolphins defending it, apparently? If the dolphins abandoned their post, should we be looking for a Vogon Construction Fleet in the sky??

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Sorry for the foreign language video, but it's the only thing that's not in the useless, non-embeddable "youtube shorts" format.
    CNN has a clip:

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    "The exact cause of the blast at Europeís longest bridge is yet to be confirmed. Russian
    officials said a truck exploded, causing Crimea-bound sections of the bridgeís road portion
    to collapse. A subsequent fire engulfed a train of fuel tanks on a separate, adjacent rail
    portion of the bridge."
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    Looks to me like a bomb went off under the road bridge and that set off the train loaded with fuel on the rail bridge. A coincidence that the train was there? I think not. Good planning on this bombing.

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