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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    Unpopular comment of the day:

    Putin appears to have ended the pandemic
    Not only that he has also ended the Russian central bank by raising interest rates to 20%. Even the Moscow stock exchange closed for today (there is question if it will ever reopen) as Russia's biggest bank is on the brink of collapse as savers rushed to withdraw their deposits and now the Ruble lost 20% of its value. Putin may end up starving his own people to death.
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    Just saw on the corporate machine media "news" that the Ukrainian Army is using these NLAW missiles made by the car company Saab (who knew they were also a weapons manufacturer?) that once they hit a Russian tank or vehicle they will blow the turret right off a tank and turn it in to a Roman candle. And now massive shipments of Javelin and Stinger missiles now being shipped in to Ukraine with Russia's economy on verge of collapse. This isn't going to end well at all.


    Putin really fucked this up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    Unpopular comment of the day:

    Putin appears to have ended the pandemic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    The problem with Russia is you have a HUGE country full of nuclear weapons. Someone has to hold that together and keep those weapons secure. Putin was tolerated because he was useful in that role. We took the USSR down by inflating the ruble and dropping oil prices. We broke their back that way. We have kept Putin in check with oil prices. Cutting production here only helped Russia. Their economy is energy.

    Anyways it's impossible to make any assessment of what's going on and why because so many players have been using that region for nefarious activity. Anyways there are power grabs from various angles right now. Saying it's Russia vs Ukraine is too simple.
    Putin came to power in 1999 on a wave of so-called "Chechen terror bombings" as a law-&-order ex-KGB strongman, and then invaded Chechnya in the 2nd War in one of the most ruthless campaigns Europe has seen since the Nazis ran across the USSR. It came to light that the apartment bombings that killed over 300 could not have been engineered by the Chechens and that it made no sense for them to as they had initially won the 1996 war. They used powerful Russian military explosives and FSB (Russian FBI) agents were discovered planting these bombs in another building, then claimed it was only an exercise.

    Putin is a psychotic cunt that very possibly murdered his own people in a false-flag operation so he could justify massacring large numbers of Chechen civilians and return Russia to "Soviet greatness".

    He's a fucking cunt and the sooner the coup happens the better...
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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    Unpopular comment of the day:

    Putin appears to have ended the pandemic
    Mask mandates were falling with hospitalization rates before the invasion on the 24th so just fucking nonsense. Also worth mentioning is that Russia has one of the highest Covid death toll despite having their own effective "Sputnik Vaccine". It seems the "Fancy Bear" supported antivaxx propaganda boomeranged on Putin...

    This bleak demographic forecast became even more dire with the arrival of COVID-19. The Kremlin’s initial dismissal of COVID-19 and efforts to spread vaccine disinformation across the West appear to have backfired on its own population, resulting in a vaccination rate that ranks as one of the lowest in the developed world. Low vaccination uptake, coupled with a laissez faire approach to COVID-19 and weak health care system, have contributed to one of the world’s highest COVID-19 fatality rates. Russia’s government counts around 300,000 deaths, but a more reliable estimate from the Economist puts the figure at 1 million, giving Russia the dubious distinction of having more COVID-10 deaths per capita than any other country except Bulgaria. Russia’s recent population decline predates COVID-19, but the pandemic has done much to exacerbate it.
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/03...cline-ukraine/

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    Just heard on Thom Hartmann' s show that Pooty is losing support from his fellow right wing authoritarian douchebags like Hungary's Orban & Turkey's Erdogan. Also.... Switzerland - famous for not taking sides in damn near ANYTHING - is about to freeze bank accounts of Pooty & a lot of his Russian oligarch buddies.

    Looks like the only people that have Pooty's back here are a bunch of ignorant white supremacists at CPAC & Faux Noize. And it's not like they can actually do anything for him.

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    Pat Robertson comes out of "retirement" to tell us that GOD forced Pooty to ukraine??



    Uh... Pat.....

    There's no mention of Ukraine in Ezekiel 38, you senile old fuck!!

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    Is he torso trying to eat his neck?

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    GAWD, he truly is a complete fucking idiot


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    Speaking of complete fucking idiots..... how about 90210's Anna Lynn McCord??



    Awww poor Pooty, if only his mommy had loved him....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Putin came to power in 1999 on a wave of so-called "Chechen terror bombings" as a law-&-order ex-KGB strongman, and then invaded Chechnya in the 2nd War in one of the most ruthless campaigns Europe has seen since the Nazis ran across the USSR. It came to light that the apartment bombings that killed over 300 could not have been engineered by the Chechens and that it made no sense for them to as they had initially won the 1996 war. They used powerful Russian military explosives and FSB (Russian FBI) agents were discovered planting these bombs in another building, then claimed it was only an exercise.

    Putin is a psychotic cunt that very possibly murdered his own people in a false-flag operation so he could justify massacring large numbers of Chechen civilians and return Russia to "Soviet greatness".

    He's a fucking cunt and the sooner the coup happens the better...
    It’s a ruthless part of the world. Ok Putin is gone. Someone else will have to run the place and they will be ruthless too.
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    True but Russian leaders have usually been pragmatic and fairly logical. Putin seems to have long leader syndrome, people with power go crazy after a while especially when they surround themselves with yes men.

    The two term limit in the US for presidents is a good idea. Can you imagine Trump after 20 years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    It’s a ruthless part of the world. Ok Putin is gone. Someone else will have to run the place and they will be ruthless too.
    Ruthless and stupidly irrational, exposing your army to a quagmire and obsessing over recreating a dead empire and NATO while your biggest actual military threat is China is pretty stupid...

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    Are Russian built helicopters made this shitty? Okay, it might depend upon the type of missile that hit it but to just sink like that kind is kind of weird


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    Appreciate their sincerity but these motherfuckers are all going to die. Either they are wannabe military cosplayers or just plain stupid. With no formal training or years and years from previous military experience they are going to be lambs for slaughter. Of course, this is Sky News - so pretty much Russian state propaganda.


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    Actually Sky is owned by Scumcast now, so it's corporatist-fascist propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Ruthless and stupidly irrational, exposing your army to a quagmire and obsessing over recreating a dead empire and NATO while your biggest actual military threat is China is pretty stupid...
    Maybe but we aren’t getting the full intel. One thing for sure. China will exploit the situation. Our son in law is from Taiwan and has relatives there so he’s obviously concerned. Once the fog of war rolls in nobody knows for sure what’s going to happen and with nuclear armed countries being ran by buffoons not a good situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    True but Russian leaders have usually been pragmatic and fairly logical. Putin seems to have long leader syndrome, people with power go crazy after a while especially when they surround themselves with yes men.

    The two term limit in the US for presidents is a good idea. Can you imagine Trump after 20 years?
    What made Putin snap was the Ukrainian president wanted to join NATO and then take Crimea back. Russia is a tricky situation. You have an extremely large country full of nuclear weapons and to the south you have several areas you don’t want having access to such weapons.

    Gorbechev was a decent leader but he was too weak. You need a strong leader running Russia or they get ran over. It’s similar to the Middle East in this regard. Nice guys don’t last long. You really have to spend some time in Russia to understand the place. It’s very different and most people in the West don’t understand Russians.
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    But yeah Putin needs to go. He’s been a Keptocrat in power for too long. The problem is who do you replace him with? Heck. We can’t find good leadership ourselves.

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    We can't even find average leadership although I think Biden or the State Department at least, has played Ukraine pretty well so far.

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    I do wonder how many Republicans can afford their yachts and dark campaign money now Putin has cut them off.

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    Yeah, this won't do shit


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    We can't even find average leadership although I think Biden or the State Department at least, has played Ukraine pretty well so far.
    Who knows. When you have nuclear powers in a spat a senile old man probably is going to be given his ice cream and a nap while geopolitical and military experts deal with the problem.

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    Well I can do without Russian Standard Vodka and Beluga caviar. JJ is going to make a fortune since they are the only none Russian maker of vacuum tubes. Most the vacuum tubes are made in Russia.

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    No army can be this clueless. But there guys are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    What made Putin snap was the Ukrainian president wanted to join NATO and then take Crimea back.
    How would this have made him "snap". The Ukraine has wanted to be part of NATO for over a decade now. And yes when you invade someone's territory and seize it they tend to want it back.

    What made Putty "snap" was that he has a working democracy at his doorstep in a former Soviet Republic.

    Russia is a tricky situation. You have an extremely large country full of nuclear weapons and to the south you have several areas you don’t want having access to such weapons.
    What "areas" do you mean?

    Gorbechev was a decent leader but he was too weak. You need a strong leader running Russia or they get ran over. It’s similar to the Middle East in this regard. Nice guys don’t last long. You really have to spend some time in Russia to understand the place. It’s very different and most people in the West don’t understand Russians.
    I don't recall Gorby being "weak". My recollection is that a lot of the other nations states didn't want to be run from Moscow and he largely gave up power as the Soviet Republics were failing in every sense and Yeltsin took over the main hub of Russia and ended their empire in that era. I'm not sure Boris Yeltsin was the epidemy of strength and coherence. But the autocrats that opposed them were fossils living in a past that never really existed to begin with. But you are touching on an idea that is sort of bullshit - that Russia needs an authoritarian leader because of its large geographic land mass. But Canada has a large landmass and somehow still has a tradition of democratic elections and termed leaders. The pity here is that what the Soviet Union really needed was a gradual transition to a free market system or a variation of democratic socialism and not a sudden seizure of its assets by corrupt oligarch former communist cunts that were the corrupt overlords that destroyed whatever viability the Soviets had to begin with. And invading Afghanistan was far more detrimental to the Soviet system than ever acknowledged and Putin has just basically done vastly worse here as his army is now marooned and demoralized with rumors that they are slicing open fuel tankers to avoid fighting...
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    As the saying goes: you don't miss your water until the well runs dry

    Russia stocks trading on the UK exchange:
    Sberbank down 99.72%
    Gazprom down 93.71%,
    Lukoil down 99.2%
    Polyus down 95.58%
    EN+ down 20.51%.

    Trading has been suspended.


    How will shitbags like Russell Brand and the entire Republican Party get their dark money now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    We can't even find average leadership although I think Biden or the State Department at least, has played Ukraine pretty well so far.
    I don't agree that it's been played well... leading from behind and following the EU and UK's moves, while helpful and appropriate... seems too little, too late.

    The actions taken globally should have been enacted 3 months ago to pressure Russia to not invade. While the sanctions and all that enacted this week are somewhat strong measures... they're still somewhat tepid and not as swift to impact Russia in the near term. There's plenty more options to cut-off and isolate the Russians that can and should be taken immediately by every country that opposes this atrocity. While the world is at it... let's enact the same on every country that supports Russia.
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    I think the sanctions are pretty tough.

    I'm not sure you can punish someone with sanctions before they do the crime. We should have had the stomach to mop up a lot of this Russian corruption years ago of course.

    Western intelligence has been spot on - how many people were saying that Biden was making a fuss about nothing a few weeks ago accusing him of using it as a distraction?
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    This just in for what it's worth:

    Facebook denied access to all Russian servers. How will the MAGAs and Qtards get their "news" now?

    Well, there is always Puke Yuger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    I think the sanctions are pretty tough.

    I'm not sure you can punish someone with sanctions before they do the crime. We should have had the stomach to mop up a lot of this Russian corruption years ago of course.

    Western intelligence has been spot on - how many people were saying that Biden was making a fuss about nothing a few weeks ago accusing him of using it as a distraction?
    Not many here that I associate with thought Biden was making a fuss about nothing... as the intelligence kept increasing the number and location of troops surrounding Ukraine most folks here were asking... Hey why aren't we acting now to stop this? Not after the invasion is underway.

    Outside of the Washington DC gang and the mainstream media... most of the rest of the US was thinking this isn't good. Let's act quick and shut it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
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    Facebook denied access to all Russian servers. How will the MAGAs and Qtards get their "news" now?

    Well, there is always Puke Yuger
    If Pooty was to blow up Farcebook Headquarters, I wouldn't shed a tear over it.

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    This 'mainstream media' as a pejorative term is starting to piss me off.

    The argument being that because there are some special interests and media owners mainstream media is not always accurate and sometimes partisan. Yup ok fine but part 2 is 'so anything else must be better'?

    Fucking no. So instead of professional highly educated journalists with training on multiple sources who are sometimes compromised we'll replace that with some random fuckwit on the internet secondary source BS because it's what we would like to believe and then makes it true?

    It's getting like the great quote, there is a word for 'alternative' medicine that has been proved to work - medicine.

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    The corporate media in the US has declined horribly since Bill Clinton's "Telecommunications Act of 1996" - which allowed for all the mega-mergers of media companies, and the mere existence of behemoths like FAUX Noize, Clear Channel Radio & Sinclair Media, all of which played significant roles in dragging the media to the far right. And because the right wingers in Congress continually want to cut public broadcasting, even PBS and NPR have drifted rightward, because they have been forced to take "donations" from right wing billionaires & their lobbies.

    Without Sinclair, it's doubtful that TV stations in Seattle or Portland would be running extremist editorials from the likes of Boris Epsteyn (or however he misspells his own name) along with their so-called "local news". Nor would every progressive talk radio station on the solidly "Democratic Blue State" West Coast be shut down by Clear Channel (in a Mitt Romney temper tantrum after he lost the 2012 election)

    So yeah, we definitely need some "alternative" media in this country.... but Facebook sure as Hell ain't that!. What we really need is to undo what Clinton did in 1996. Unfortunately you would need 60 Bernie Sanders type actual Democrats in the Senate and 250 or so members of "The Squad" in the House to make that happen..... and it's hard to get such people in office because of..... Shittizens United & the corporate media!

    Talk about your "vicious circles"....

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    Media changes. I thought it was more interesting when radio stations and television stations were locally owned and the DJ’s or program directors had a lot of say in what got put on the air. As far as political bias goes it’s always been there. William Randolph Hearst had a lot of influence over politics.

    I think with mobile devices and easy access to media the influence on people is not the greatest. I think the internet has driven people a bit mad. Ha! Ha! Twitter is a complete freak show. Honestly. I really don’t know how people take it seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    If Pooty was to blow up Farcebook Headquarters, I wouldn't shed a tear over it.
    . It would be a good warhead accuracy test. I wonder if the Russians have improved their nuclear payload delivery system accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Facebook denied access to all Russian servers. How will the MAGAs and Qtards get their "news" now?
    Truth Social.
    Duh.

    Donald Trump Canít Stop Whining About His Failing Social Media App
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald...p-truth-social
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    . It would be a good warhead accuracy test. I wonder if the Russians have improved their nuclear payload delivery system accuracy.
    Not as much as we have.

    They still rely on brute force high yield weapon systems like the Satan...

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