For fucks sake, somebody take Daltrey's microphone away from him already

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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49125

    #31
    I like Roger and love The Who but who the fuck wants to see this acoustic dribble?

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    • Terry
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Jan 2004
      • 11957

      #32
      Originally posted by Rikk
      I saw The Who twice around 2016-2017.

      The second time, I got one of those "watch the soundcheck, autographs, dinner" deals. Then a 5th row ticket.

      They were still great. No...they weren't what they were 20-40 years earlier. But they were still good.

      I wanted to go to the tour you mentioned, but I couldn't get past the whole orchestra thing. I wish bands would stop doing that. It's not necessary.

      (But yes, Roger's voice was better when I saw them in 1996 and 2002... I was too young to see them for the '89 reunion tour, which is still my least favorite Who tour because of all the extra musicians.)
      The '89 tour was the one time I saw the 'band' and it was similar to the Stones show I saw that same year where they also had as many (if not more) extra musicians than they did band members.

      With both The Who and The Stones in 1989 I figured I may as well see them because it could be the last time...sounds beyond ridiculous now, but that's what my 19-year-old self thought back then.

      With The Who in 1989, Daltrey really stood out...still in good form vocally. Probably because Entwistle's bass wasn't particularly loud in the mix and Townshend was playing acoustic for most of the show. I will say Simon Phillips also really stood out...in many ways better suited to the classic Who material than Jones proved to be.
      Scramby eggs and bacon.

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      • Terry
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Jan 2004
        • 11957

        #33
        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
        I like Roger and love The Who but who the fuck wants to see this acoustic dribble?
        Many rock bands just weren't designed to age well.
        The Who were never designed to age well.

        But it kinda dawned on me when I saw Kenny Loggins and The Little River Band on a double bill last fall - and was at age 53 younger than most of the crowd by probably a decade - that these aging rock fans just want a glimmer. Nobody has any reasonable expectations of Roger Daltrey circa 2024 coming out, swinging his mic cord really fast and hitting any screams or vocals approaching anywhere near what The Who were doing 50 years ago. These aging rock audiences are already at retirement age or beyond...they just want some light entertainment once in a blue moon on a Saturday night, and maybe Daltrey fills to nostalgia jones for them more than, say, Taylor Swift.

        I mean, I never thought I'd end up seeing Kenny Loggins live, but there you go.
        Scramby eggs and bacon.

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        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49125

          #34
          Originally posted by Terry
          Many rock bands just weren't designed to age well.
          The Who were never designed to age well.

          But it kinda dawned on me when I saw Kenny Loggins and The Little River Band on a double bill last fall - and was at age 53 younger than most of the crowd by probably a decade - that these aging rock fans just want a glimmer. Nobody has any reasonable expectations of Roger Daltrey circa 2024 coming out, swinging his mic cord really fast and hitting any screams or vocals approaching anywhere near what The Who were doing 50 years ago. These aging rock audiences are already at retirement age or beyond...they just want some light entertainment once in a blue moon on a Saturday night, and maybe Daltrey fills to nostalgia jones for them more than, say, Taylor Swift.

          I mean, I never thought I'd end up seeing Kenny Loggins live, but there you go.
          Sounds like you were really in the danger zone...

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          • Seshmeister
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Oct 2003
            • 35155

            #35
            Originally posted by Terry
            Many rock bands just weren't designed to age well.

            But it kinda dawned on me when I saw Kenny Loggins and The Little River Band on a double bill last fall - and was at age 53 younger than most of the crowd by probably a decade - that these aging rock fans just want a glimmer.

            Sometimes seeing how old the audience looks is much worse than the band.

            Twice as bad if you go to see a band who are a little older than your generation like a Stones or Who gig I guess.

            I remember being shocked by the audience at a gig by The Alarm about 6 or 8 years ago and I guess I'm now their age.

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            • twonabomber
              formerly F A T
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Jan 2004
              • 11202

              #36
              I feel pretty good about myself at a Stones show. Some of the other attendees have to be close to my age, some of them can barely navigate the steps. I don't need an oxygen tank, either.
              Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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              • Rikk
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Jan 2004
                • 16373

                #37
                Originally posted by twonabomber
                I feel pretty good about myself at a Stones show. Some of the other attendees have to be close to my age, some of them can barely navigate the steps. I don't need an oxygen tank, either.
                Seeing the Stones at Soldier Field in 2019, I was kind of shocked how many younger people were there. My wife and I were in our early 40s (my wife was 41) and there were a lot of people our age or younger.

                THAT SAID...yes, there were people who looked like they needed "oxygen tanks."
                Roth Army Militia

                Originally posted by WARF
                Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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                • Terry
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 11957

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                  Sounds like you were really in the danger zone...
                  Yep, well, people can say what they like about Loggins.

                  Sad truth is he looked and sounded FAR better last year onstage than the vast bulk of hard rock acts I loved in the 1980s and have seen live in the last 25 years.

                  Granted, Loggins never played similar music to said 80's hard rock acts. BUT, when old Kenny got to the end of his set and did the Danger Zone/Footloose/Caddyshack Theme trio, the tunes weren't tuned down several steps from the original recorded versions to accommodate aging vocals (and I'd tend to wager Loggins is probably a decade older on average than those 80's hard rock band members) and the stuff sounded fantastic. Never once during the show did I think the guy onstage should have packed it in years ago juxtaposed with the aforementioned 80's hard rock acts.

                  Oh, yeah, I fist-pumped the air like a bitch when he launched into Danger Zone. You're fuckin' A right I did! USA! USA!! USA!!!
                  Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                  • Terry
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 11957

                    #39
                    Originally posted by twonabomber
                    I feel pretty good about myself at a Stones show. Some of the other attendees have to be close to my age, some of them can barely navigate the steps. I don't need an oxygen tank, either.
                    There were more than a few of those at the Loggins show.

                    Nice place for a gig, though. Ampitheater. Plenty of handicapped seating for the wheelchair crowd.

                    A decade or so ago, I probably would have rolled my eyes at those wheelchair bound geezers with their attached O2 tanks.

                    Now, I'm just thankful I can still stand and walk on my own two feet and breathe unassisted. And if those who can't want a night out at a concert, good for them...fuckin' go for it. Better than just sitting at home growing mold waiting to die.
                    Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                    • Catfish
                      Sniper
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 898

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Seshmeister
                      Sometimes seeing how old the audience looks is much worse than the band.

                      Twice as bad if you go to see a band who are a little older than your generation like a Stones or Who gig I guess.

                      I remember being shocked by the audience at a gig by The Alarm about 6 or 8 years ago and I guess I'm now their age.
                      The Alarm!!! They never really hit it big in the US, but 'Sold Me Down the River' was a FM rock mainstay when it came out. Great number!

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                      • Catfish
                        Sniper
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 898

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Rikk
                        Seeing the Stones at Soldier Field in 2019, I was kind of shocked how many younger people were there. My wife and I were in our early 40s (my wife was 41) and there were a lot of people our age or younger.

                        THAT SAID...yes, there were people who looked like they needed "oxygen tanks."
                        I also took my boy to see ELO, or Jeff Lynne or whatever he calls it, back in 2019 or so and was amazed by how young the audience was. Even young people there without parents. Like, rockets I felt creepy about staring at (not really). I was amazed that they could sell out an arena. I don't think about ELO having arena-filling hits. But good music is good music and the young'ns came out for it. And the show was outstanding BTW. They're coming back in a few months, though I'll pass this time.

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                        • Rikk
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 16373

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Catfish
                          I also took my boy to see ELO, or Jeff Lynne or whatever he calls it, back in 2019 or so and was amazed by how young the audience was. Even young people there without parents. Like, rockets I felt creepy about staring at (not really). I was amazed that they could sell out an arena. I don't think about ELO having arena-filling hits. But good music is good music and the young'ns came out for it. And the show was outstanding BTW. They're coming back in a few months, though I'll pass this time.
                          I gotta say, I'm surprised you didn't think of them having arena-filling hits.

                          ELO had more hit singles than so many bands put together!!

                          A lot of people used to talk about their being sick of the "Lynne sound"...but dude was exceptionally talented.

                          FLAMING PIE is one of my favorite McCartney albums. And CLOUD NINE (and BRAINWASHED) include much of my favorite George Harrison work.

                          (...and now I wait for the "Kristy reply"...)
                          Roth Army Militia

                          Originally posted by WARF
                          Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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                          • Rikk
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 16373

                            #43
                            This is just a great song...I don't care what anyone says...

                            Roth Army Militia

                            Originally posted by WARF
                            Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 58755

                              #44
                              The Alarm were one of the best bands of the 80s. Sure they had ridiculous hair, but unlike most bands of that era, their musical talent more than made up for it. Corporate media wrote them off as "U2 clones" which they really weren't at all. Though the two bands did tour together, and had similar views on politics & religion, but musically they were completely different.

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                              • Rikk
                                DIAMOND STATUS
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 16373

                                #45
                                Originally posted by FORD
                                The Alarm were one of the best bands of the 80s. Sure they had ridiculous hair, but unlike most bands of that era, their musical talent more than made up for it. Corporate media wrote them off as "U2 clones" which they really weren't at all. Though the two bands did tour together, and had similar views on politics & religion, but musically they were completely different.

                                Yeah, FORD...I actually like this. I've never listened to them before.

                                FORD, did you ever like Midnight Oil?
                                Roth Army Militia

                                Originally posted by WARF
                                Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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