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    Nothing is happening at this time, and the time to do whatever - if they are gonna do anything, live-wise - is now.

    None of these guys are at an age where it's gonna sound any better if they futz around and do nothing for several more years and THEN decide to do something. All of them are on the wrong side of 50 to be frittering away the clock IF there is an actual ambition to do whatever.

    But, Van Halen being what it morphed into post-2000, there's no rush to do anything. Hasn't been since Cherone left the band. Chalk up some of that to Ed's health, but the truth of the matter is with Roth's 2nd full-time stint with the band it was a year or so of activity then nothing for a few years: lather, rinse, repeat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    All of them are on the wrong side of 50 to be frittering away the clock IF there is an actual ambition to do whatever.
    Wrong side of 60...

    Bands slow down big time even if they don't go on mad drug binges for decades or split up.

    I hadn't noticed until recently quite the extent of this with Rush who by all accounts of the genre were one of the few to keep their shit together with lineup and bring out albums their fans bought and keeping audiences up.

    Their studio (not live or compilation) album productivity is

    Decade 1 - 10 albums
    Decade 2 - 5 albums
    Decade 3 - 2 albums
    Decade 4 - 2 albums

    Obviously there is the break Peart took in decade 3 but still...
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    All that matters is if it’s good. Some old fucks can pull it off. Van Halen was a high energy act. Trying to do it at 70 is dumb. Can they do anything else that people would be interested in? Nope. I don’t think people want to see a campfire sing a long with Dave telling stories.
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    If the diehard fans that we are aren't majoritarily interested, then how are other people?

    Personally, if it eventually happened I wouldn't care much.
    Al would deliver, and so would Wolf and whoever would play the guitar.
    But Dave would struggle with his voice again.
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    JASON NEWSTED Blasts Journalist Who Published His Comments About Proposed VAN HALEN Tribute Tour

    "That was bad, dude. I'm not happy about that. I'm really, really not happy about that."

    Full story at:
    https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ja...-tribute-tour/
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    Really, at this point. about the only stuff that would interest me is whatever live footage of the band in their CVH heyday exists that hasn't already been leaked out onto the bootleg circuit.

    Be it the stuff in Mike Anthony's/Roth's/AVH's/Wolfgang's private collection (of which one would imagine there are at least a few full-length shows from the various CVH tours that were shot on either film or videotape) or the long-rumored stuff 'in the can' that WB supposedly filmed, or whatever.

    I'd just like to watch some of that stuff. And I don't really care if it is in the form of an official dvd (not that anybody buys dvds anymore anyway) or on whatever streaming service or if somebody steals the stuff and uploads it onto youtube for free or whatever.

    Because even if Roth and Alex and whoever do stage a live tribute to Eddie Van Halen...even if it's done tastefully, I can't say as I really...that wouldn't matter to me, because I have no interest in seeing it or hearing it.

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    Well Fuck Jason. Loose lips sink ships. That means you keep your mouth shut. It’s not the journalist’s fault, it’s your fault.

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    Someone told me they saw Sammy in Vegas and it was great. I told them they were a lame as shit old fuck. Yeah I can see the audience from the stage in my head. A hall full of lame fucks that look like they were bused in from the Walmarts around town.

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    The world is turning into cheese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I wouldn't expect Alex to play with anyone. Him and Ed were extremely close not just as brothers but as jamming buddies. I
    Horse hockey. This is easy money. There's no pressure to promote a new album, no grandiose stage design, so no hiring of extra crew and you keep the touring dates to minimum and do it during the summer. Tribute acts and tours are all about the money and Alex would do this alone to keep up the maintenance on all his Ferrari's.
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    Maybe Alex is getting divorced again...
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    Alex with a University of Colorado Buffaloes hat on





    There is a story in this somewhere.

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    Oh, one of his creepy kids attended there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Alex with a University of Colorado Buffaloes hat on



    They do have the look of every bully in every teen movie ever...

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    Wonder when they wanted this thing to happen.

    If Tommy Lee is really involved, the Crue tour ends in early September.

    Satriani is touring the US mid-September through mid November, and then Europe from April to June 2023.

    Supposedly Wolfgang is not happy about it:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Horse hockey. This is easy money. There's no pressure to promote a new album, no grandiose stage design, so no hiring of extra crew and you keep the touring dates to minimum and do it during the summer. Tribute acts and tours are all about the money and Alex would do this alone to keep up the maintenance on all his Ferrari's.
    Ha! Alex probably is making more money from something else. He drives Porsches not Ferraris. Ferrari dealers kinda suck. Porsche dealers are way better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Alex with a University of Colorado Buffaloes hat on





    There is a story in this somewhere.
    Al’s son ran track for CU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    Maybe Alex is getting divorced again...
    I hear his wife is a bit of a bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Really, at this point. about the only stuff that would interest me is whatever live footage of the band in their CVH heyday exists that hasn't already been leaked out onto the bootleg circuit.

    Be it the stuff in Mike Anthony's/Roth's/AVH's/Wolfgang's private collection (of which one would imagine there are at least a few full-length shows from the various CVH tours that were shot on either film or videotape) or the long-rumored stuff 'in the can' that WB supposedly filmed, or whatever.

    I'd just like to watch some of that stuff. And I don't really care if it is in the form of an official dvd (not that anybody buys dvds anymore anyway) or on whatever streaming service or if somebody steals the stuff and uploads it onto youtube for free or whatever.

    Because even if Roth and Alex and whoever do stage a live tribute to Eddie Van Halen...even if it's done tastefully, I can't say as I really...that wouldn't matter to me, because I have no interest in seeing it or hearing it.
    Not sure about more unseen concert footage but I believe there are live recordings from the 1984 tour and even from the Hide your Sheep tour so who knows.

    Dave suggested back in '85 they release a live album as he himself back then said "we have tapes" but the Van Halens didnt want to.
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    Still trying to track down the rumor that VH's 1984 show at the old, demolished Buffalo Memorial Aud was recorded by the Sabres broadcast team "Largo" style but always leads to the brickwall in the Aud subbasement. It would be a rare ProShot 1984 show IIRC, if not the only complete one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Still trying to track down the rumor that VH's 1984 show at the old, demolished Buffalo Memorial Aud was recorded by the Sabres broadcast team "Largo" style but always leads to the brickwall in the Aud subbasement. It would be a rare ProShot 1984 show IIRC, if not the only complete one...
    Interesting.

    And wasnt there a rumour that before Ed passed he and Al actually visited Noel Monk to view old CVH footage?

    Monk by the way apparently has passed as well. RIP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    Monk by the way apparently has passed as well. RIP.
    Apparently but I can't find a date or cause or whatever. One report said it was in March but news only seemed to start to filter out a couple of weeks ago. I hadn't heard until you posted here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    Not sure about more unseen concert footage but I believe there are live recordings from the 1984 tour and even from the Hide your Sheep tour so who knows.

    Dave suggested back in '85 they release a live album as he himself back then said "we have tapes" but the Van Halens didnt want to.
    I doubt anything new and substantial is going to surface. Noel Monk was an intimidating motherfucker and him and his staff really patrolled the arena for people selling unauthorized merchandise and taking unauthorized footage. Video and film cameras were big in those days so anyone filming would be easy to spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I doubt anything new and substantial is going to surface. Noel Monk was an intimidating motherfucker and him and his staff really patrolled the arena for people selling unauthorized merchandise and taking unauthorized footage. Video and film cameras were big in those days so anyone filming would be easy to spot.
    True. Guess I'm referring to some official recordings authorized by the band.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Apparently but I can't find a date or cause or whatever. One report said it was in March but news only seemed to start to filter out a couple of weeks ago. I hadn't heard until you posted here.
    I think it was Monk's facebook page that had some folks post RIP messages.

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    I did notice that in the sale of his effects there was a 5 foot high safe so maybe that's where all the Van Halen live videos were kept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    True. Guess I'm referring to some official recordings authorized by the band.
    Michael Anthony did say the band did film itself to help with the stage choreography. I’m sure there’s some unseen footage but probably not anything all that great. Nothing is going to top those Oakland shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    I did notice that in the sale of his effects there was a 5 foot high safe so maybe that's where all the Van Halen live videos were kept.
    Noel Monk was a gun enthusiast. It’s probably a gun safe. He said he was a pack rat though so there probably is some interesting stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    Not sure about more unseen concert footage but I believe there are live recordings from the 1984 tour and even from the Hide your Sheep tour so who knows.

    Dave suggested back in '85 they release a live album as he himself back then said "we have tapes" but the Van Halens didnt want to.
    Supposedly the reason that they rushed out "Diver Down" - a short album that was half cover tunes- in 1982 is because WB pulled the plug on a live album from the Fair Warning tour at the last minute. The original plan was to put out a live album so they could take some time to write the next record. Even if WB rejected it, I would guess that somebody's got the masters for this record. Might be Al. Might be Warners. Could have been Noel Monk.... if it is him, I hope he had somebody trustworthy to take custody of such material in the event of his apparent death.
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    There is a story that he had got divorced and fallen out with his daughter which is maybe why there weren't proper obituaries and announcements. The sale of stuff did look as though maybe best things had already been taken or held back.

    Do managers not get gold and platinum disks?

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    Sounds like everything ever to do with this band. A clusterfuck.

    I have been told by a former employee of the band, former as in before 1985, that when those cameras came out on stage during the shows, they were nothing more than props. No film in them. Another one of Dave's ideas to get the crowd even more riled up. This is a guy I have known a long long time. A guy I trust. The only civillian I've ever seen that could waltz onto DLR's tour bus.

    I am hoping for pro shot video as well as soundboard quality audio to come out somwhere down the line. I don't care if it is the US Festival, or Oakland, or whatever show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    Wonder when they wanted this thing to happen.

    If Tommy Lee is really involved, the Crue tour ends in early September.

    Satriani is touring the US mid-September through mid November, and then Europe from April to June 2023.

    Supposedly Wolfgang is not happy about it:

    I agree with Wolfgang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Sounds like everything ever to do with this band. A clusterfuck.

    I have been told by a former employee of the band, former as in before 1985, that when those cameras came out on stage during the shows, they were nothing more than props. No film in them. Another one of Dave's ideas to get the crowd even more riled up. This is a guy I have known a long long time. A guy I trust. The only civillian I've ever seen that could waltz onto DLR's tour bus.

    I am hoping for pro shot video as well as soundboard quality audio to come out somwhere down the line. I don't care if it is the US Festival, or Oakland, or whatever show.
    Van Failin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    There is a story that he had got divorced and fallen out with his daughter which is maybe why there weren't proper obituaries and announcements. The sale of stuff did look as though maybe best things had already been taken or held back.

    Do managers not get gold and platinum disks?
    They probably kept things hush because they didn’t want to draw attention.

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    Noel had nothing to do with the music production so I doubt he would get wall hanger records. The producer probably got one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Supposedly the reason that they rushed out "Diver Down" - a short album that was half cover tunes- in 1982 is because WB pulled the plug on a live album from the Fair Warning tour at the last minute. The original plan was to put out a live album so they could take some time to write the next record. Even if WB rejected it, I would guess that somebody's got the masters for this record. Might be Al. Might be Warners. Could have been Noel Monk.... if it is him, I hope he had somebody trustworthy to take custody of such material in the event of his apparent death.
    A live album after Fair Warning would make sense considering the photos used on the back cover live shots and the inner sleeve of Diver Down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I agree with Wolfgang.
    Seems Wolfgang Van Halen and Alex Van Halen may have differing opinions on whether there is Van Halen without EVH.

    I wonder if Al even has access to 5150, or the "vault".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Seems Wolfgang Van Halen and Alex Van Halen may have differing opinions on whether there is Van Halen without EVH.

    I wonder if Al even has access to 5150, or the "vault".
    My understanding is that Al still has control over anything Van Halen related. As in the band and their music - which includes previous recordings or unreleased.

    Wolf took over the EVH gear brand and thats it.

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    Well, Wolf owns 5150 and that happens to be where the vault is located. I'm not so sure Al could just waltz in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Well, Wolf owns 5150 and that happens to be where the vault is located. I'm not so sure Al could just waltz in there.
    Not really a vault. It’s a storage room with shelves on one wall and it’s full of tapes. You can access it from the studio, there isn’t even a door on it.

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