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  • Nitro Express
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Aug 2004
    • 32797

    #16
    Originally posted by FORD
    Even if Eddie actually did visit Spam in his dreams and bless him with a super secret heavenly guitar riff, odds are that Hagar wouldn't be able to play it.

    How do I know this? Because the last time he tried to play one of Ed's solos, he botched it so badly that you could see Eddie visibly laughing at him...

    **TRIGGER WARNING: EXTREME CHEESINESS**

    Exactly. Better start doing them finger exercises Sam. Even if Ed’s spirit possessed Sam his fat fingers couldn’t physically do it. Using Sam to play Van Halen would be like using an old rusty Reliant K car to race the Daytona 500 in.

    Anyways this fool ain’t done. Enjoy the implosion.
    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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    • Vinnie Velvet
      Full Member Status

      • Feb 2004
      • 4577

      #17
      Originally posted by FORD
      Even if Eddie actually did visit Spam in his dreams and bless him with a super secret heavenly guitar riff, odds are that Hagar wouldn't be able to play it.

      How do I know this? Because the last time he tried to play one of Ed's solos, he botched it so badly that you could see Eddie visibly laughing at him...

      **TRIGGER WARNING: EXTREME CHEESINESS**

      Will not watch.

      I remember the first time they began airing the "videos" from Live Without Dave.

      And this shit song comes on and I was like "jesus christ...wtf happened to this band". It was a complete reversal; like a bizarre fucked up version of Van Halen fronted by that poodle haired idiot.

      Everything - from the band's sound, their stage look, the stage itself.....a whole different vibe.
      =V V=
      ole No.1 The finest
      EAT US AND SMILE

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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32797

        #18


        What a space cadet. He’s just saying the same alien bullshit but now it’s Eddie coming to him.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • Terry
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Jan 2004
          • 11956

          #19
          It's just this desperate grasping at straws he has been doing for so long.

          It's like, we get it. Your last experience playing with the Van Halens was a shitty one. The bulk of the blame for that probably was due to Ed's wacko behavior. Understandable that you'd want another shot at a tour with the band, because that whole 2004 experience - from the 3 BOBW tracks to the tour itself - was, despite the money the band made, right down there with Van Halen III in terms of being the band's nadir.

          It had to be a shot to your ego to see the band reform with Roth in 2006 and see Ed slowly pull himself together health-wise and see Roth front the band for those three tours and that ADKOT album. Regardless of you publicly slagging what Roth brought to those three reunion tours in terms of where Dave's abilities were at that point, it had to hurt seeing Van Halen Mach IV selling out 15,000 seaters while the Circle or Chickenfoot or whatthefuckever was playing venues less than half that capacity. It hurt mostly because you felt you should have been fronting the band for those three tours, because you thought Roth was washed up and a joke.

          And you never got a good final tour with Van Halen. You never even got to stand onstage with them at the RnRHoF because nobody other than you and Mike showed up, and you two guys just looked foolish for doing so. And none of the Van Halens nor Roth so much as spoke about you publicly during those last three tours other than maybe a few passing comments Dave made on a podcast or something. You had to resort to publicly tweeting birthday greetings at Ed, who apparently didn't care to make much of an effort to reach out to you. Maybe your behind-the-scenes expose of the 2004 experiences you had with Van Halen via your book had something to do with the Van Halens not wanting to bother with you...maybe those stories would have best been left unspoken, regardless of how true they were or not.

          Whatever. Ed's gone. There isn't gonna be a reconciliation now that results in new music. Or another Van Halen tour. Just get on with your music and get on with your life.
          Scramby eggs and bacon.

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          • Nitro Express
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 32797

            #20
            Sammy is is the poster child for the harder I work the luckier I get. The happy go lucky beach bum image is just that, an image. This guy is calculating and motivated. Eddie called him all about the money. Sam’s first wife said the same thing about him. He’s got a huge ego and is always hungry.

            I mean he stumbled onto something in Mexico and had the motivation to start importing his house tequila into the US. A lot of his business success is luck but you don’t get lucky unless you are motivated to make certain things happen. Sam got the deal of a lifetime. He built a brand and cashed out.

            It put him in a different bracket than being just a musician. Sam is actually more successful in business than music but Being tied in with the legendary Van Halen makes him think he’s the legend. He’s not. The original band were the legend. Roth knows people know and frankly has nothing to prove. Sam still is going look at me! Look at me!

            I don’t think he can stand being on the way down. He’s a casino grade act and it’s driving him nuts. I’m like enjoy your money loser but toys get boring. The dude wants what he had with VH and you can’t buy it.
            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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            • Seshmeister
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Oct 2003
              • 35149

              #21
              Originally posted by Nitro Express
              I mean he stumbled onto something in Mexico and had the motivation to start importing his house tequila into the US. A lot of his business success is luck but you don’t get lucky unless you are motivated to make certain things happen. Sam got the deal of a lifetime. He built a brand and cashed out.
              Hmm kind of but the brand would not have been anything without sticking it on the shoulders of the 'Van Halen' brand. It's a happy coincidence that enough of the 10 million Van Halen fans that Dave and Ed's music gathered were by that point people who still liked to party a bit at the weekends and now their 30s with enough cash to spend on overpriced tequila.

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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35149

                #22
                Originally posted by Nitro Express
                I don’t think he can stand being on the way down. He’s a casino grade act and it’s driving him nuts. I’m like enjoy your money loser but toys get boring. The dude wants what he had with VH and you can’t buy it.
                This is the great comfort to me, the guy is not happy or satisfied.

                No one that is would ever spend so much time saying they were.

                The saddest example of his insecurities I always thought was his intro video on the Sam and Dave tour. Somewhere in the contracts I think Dave inserted that each act would have a 15 minute intro video because he wanted to use some of the BBQ video. The video that Hagar put up was the most insipid piece of shit - a series of people, many of whom seemed to be employees like his fucking gardener saying what an amazing person he was. It was beyond pathetic.

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49125

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Nitro Express
                  ... Dude. Let Eddie Rest In Peace. Leave it alone. Stop trying to sell people you got some special Eddie connection and it comes through you.
                  Yeah, FFS...

                  Alcoholic pussbag:

                  Sammy Hagar preconcert:

                  Last edited by Nickdfresh; 08-26-2022, 09:38 PM.

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                  • Terry
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 11956

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Nitro Express
                    Sammy is is the poster child for the harder I work the luckier I get. The happy go lucky beach bum image is just that, an image. This guy is calculating and motivated. Eddie called him all about the money. Sam’s first wife said the same thing about him. He’s got a huge ego and is always hungry.

                    I mean he stumbled onto something in Mexico and had the motivation to start importing his house tequila into the US. A lot of his business success is luck but you don’t get lucky unless you are motivated to make certain things happen. Sam got the deal of a lifetime. He built a brand and cashed out.

                    It put him in a different bracket than being just a musician. Sam is actually more successful in business than music but Being tied in with the legendary Van Halen makes him think he’s the legend. He’s not. The original band were the legend. Roth knows people know and frankly has nothing to prove. Sam still is going look at me! Look at me!

                    I don’t think he can stand being on the way down. He’s a casino grade act and it’s driving him nuts. I’m like enjoy your money loser but toys get boring. The dude wants what he had with VH and you can’t buy it.
                    It has to be, as you say, his pride.

                    Otherwise, he'd be content with the success he had. The dude was financially successful.

                    But all his branding can't buy him the cred VH with Roth had, and deep down Hagar knows it.

                    For all the dough he earned, Hagar is acting pitiful.
                    Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                    • Nickdfresh
                      SUPER MODERATOR

                      • Oct 2004
                      • 49125

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Nitro Express
                      ....The happy go lucky beach bum image is just that, an image. This guy is calculating and motivated....
                      It's stolen. Like everything uncreative and boring Sam cunt has ever done, it's just a rip-off of a previous act. In this case Sam is mimicking the Jimmy Buffett Baby Boomer/Gen X asshole terminally on vacation theme...

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                      • Terry
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 11956

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Seshmeister
                        This is the great comfort to me, the guy is not happy or satisfied.

                        No one that is would ever spend so much time saying they were.

                        The saddest example of his insecurities I always thought was his intro video on the Sam and Dave tour. Somewhere in the contracts I think Dave inserted that each act would have a 15 minute intro video because he wanted to use some of the BBQ video. The video that Hagar put up was the most insipid piece of shit - a series of people, many of whom seemed to be employees like his fucking gardener saying what an amazing person he was. It was beyond pathetic.
                        In one interview after the next starting around 2002, Hagar would constantly say "I'm not looking to get back in the band" or "I'm happy with what I've got now" or "I play with a great bunch of cats, man, so it's all good without Van Halen."

                        If any of that were true, he wouldn't have rejoined in 2004 when Ed was visibly in such dreadful shape.

                        He wouldn't have bitched about the band touring with Dave from 2006 onward in terms of criticizing Roth's performance: much like Hagar didn't need to write a book telling everyone about the bad condition Ed was in on the 2004 tour - because it was clearly evident - Roth's live shortcomings were front and center. Throughout that whole Mach IV period, there's Hagar in the background saying publicly he hasn't permanently closed the door on another Sam Halen reunion.

                        It's that old axiom of when someone says such and such a thing isn't about something, you can bet the farm it 100% IS about that certain something.

                        Whatever. Fuck him. Let him 'compose' tunes with The Dream Ghost Of Eddie Van Halen. Maybe Jason Bonham can spiritually channel some drum beats his father bequeathed him in a fucking seance and add those to Ether Van Halen's fanatasy 'licks'.

                        Fuck. Talk about picking at a corpse.
                        Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32797

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Seshmeister
                          Hmm kind of but the brand would not have been anything without sticking it on the shoulders of the 'Van Halen' brand. It's a happy coincidence that enough of the 10 million Van Halen fans that Dave and Ed's music gathered were by that point people who still liked to party a bit at the weekends and now their 30s with enough cash to spend on overpriced tequila.
                          Oh Cabo Wabo was a VH joint venture in the beginning and there was the grand opening on MTV and a song about the place. But the tequila thing was more than that. Most tequila outside of Mexico is cut. It’s got white rum mixed in with it. The good stuff in Mexico is 100% blue agave. I used to drink it down in Jalisco where they make the stuff.

                          Sammy made a connection to get some high grade tequila for the club. People loved it. He had hand blown bottles made, got licensed to import the stuff to the states, got liquor distribution and made mint. He was early to that game. Others followed.

                          I used to drink a particular brand of mezcal in Mexico. It was about $1,000 pesos a bottle. That was a little under a US dollar in the day. It was local hooch. Now someone imported it and it’s going for $80 a bottle.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32797

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                            It's stolen. Like everything uncreative and boring Sam cunt has ever done, it's just a rip-off of a previous act. In this case Sam is mimicking the Jimmy Buffett Baby Boomer/Gen X asshole terminally on vacation theme...
                            Yup. I didn’t see Sam looking like he was going to go clam digging in the 80’s or 70’s. He became Margarittaville Sam when the Cabo thing happened. Now he wears ridiculous dated beach wear and yup does the Jimmy Buffett thing.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32797

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Terry
                              In one interview after the next starting around 2002, Hagar would constantly say "I'm not looking to get back in the band" or "I'm happy with what I've got now" or "I play with a great bunch of cats, man, so it's all good without Van Halen."

                              If any of that were true, he wouldn't have rejoined in 2004 when Ed was visibly in such dreadful shape.

                              He wouldn't have bitched about the band touring with Dave from 2006 onward in terms of criticizing Roth's performance: much like Hagar didn't need to write a book telling everyone about the bad condition Ed was in on the 2004 tour - because it was clearly evident - Roth's live shortcomings were front and center. Throughout that whole Mach IV period, there's Hagar in the background saying publicly he hasn't permanently closed the door on another Sam Halen reunion.

                              It's that old axiom of when someone says such and such a thing isn't about something, you can bet the farm it 100% IS about that certain something.

                              Whatever. Fuck him. Let him 'compose' tunes with The Dream Ghost Of Eddie Van Halen. Maybe Jason Bonham can spiritually channel some drum beats his father bequeathed him in a fucking seance and add those to Ether Van Halen's fanatasy 'licks'.

                              Fuck. Talk about picking at a corpse.
                              There’s not even a corpse. Apparently Eddie was cremated and dumped into the Pacific Ocean. The family didn’t want to deal with the circus shrine a grave would cause. Anyways Eddie is as gone as you possibly can be so Sam has to cook up stories of Ed visiting him in his dreams. That won’t stop. He will claim another song was inspired by Ed from the other side. It’s quite pathetic.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                              • Jérôme Frenchise
                                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 7173

                                #30
                                There might have been an interesting experience with some outer space civilization, but Spammy spoilt it all as they picked him up, the dumbest earthling they could, so they thought it really wasn't worth getting their study any further.
                                Last edited by Jérôme Frenchise; 08-27-2022, 06:01 AM.
                                posted by Ellyllions Men say, "I'll never understand women." That's a very lonely place to be if you're a woman because we don't understand half of what we do either.
                                posted by ALinChainz Katy, Pipe down, pump off, and fly back to your cave you old bat.

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