Page 4 of 4 FirstFirst 1234
Results 121 to 139 of 139

Thread: Sam Just Wonít Stop

  1. #121
    Loon
    SUPER MODERATOR

    Nickdfresh's Avatar
    Member No
    8719
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 06:26 PM
    Location
    Buffalo, NY
    Age
    52
    Posts
    48,153
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    3,175
    Thanked 4,361 Times in 3,296 Posts


    Rep Power
    112
    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    No, he isn't. He sounds like shit. Go watch some Youtubes, if you can stomach it. Tuned down and cracking during the high parts.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  2. #122
    Master of the Universe
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    FORD's Avatar
    Member No
    32
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 02:35 AM
    Location
    Snake Mountain
    Posts
    57,615
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    3,359
    Thanked 6,165 Times in 4,613 Posts


    Rep Power
    139


    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  3. 4 users say thank you to FORD for this KICKASS post:

    JťrŰme Frenchise (11-11-2022),Silexxx (11-11-2022),Von Halen (11-11-2022),ZahZoo (11-11-2022)


  4. #123
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    Seshmeister's Avatar
    Member No
    11
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Last Online
    Today @ 01:58 AM
    Location
    Scotland
    Posts
    34,107
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    2,671
    Thanked 8,976 Times in 5,771 Posts


    Rep Power
    10
    How did it take a year for this to be posted here?
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  5. #124
    Full On Cocktard

    Member No
    37128
    Join Date
    May 2022
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 03:51 PM
    Location
    Cleveland, OH
    Posts
    36
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 24 Times in 15 Posts


    Rep Power
    0
    The guy now is just a bumbling word salad that can't keep a story straight. Oh yeah I don't want to start beef with Alex but he has a stick up his ass. Eddie was messed up and angry but he was also amazing and deserves a tribute. The guy's a fucking hack.

    And yeah, you and Mike are cut from the same cloth. A cloth that's 5 sizes too big to fit your fat asses into. Both of them sold out a long time ago. At least Mike usually has the sanity to keep his mouth shut.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  6. Thanked MasonL for this KICKASS post:

    Nitro Express (11-12-2022)


  7. #125
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    Seshmeister's Avatar
    Member No
    11
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Last Online
    Today @ 01:58 AM
    Location
    Scotland
    Posts
    34,107
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    2,671
    Thanked 8,976 Times in 5,771 Posts


    Rep Power
    10
    This guy (surely he must be a member here) does a great job from about 7 minutes in of going through all the Sammy Hagar bullshit and lies over the years.


  8. Thanked Seshmeister for this KICKASS post:

    FORD (11-11-2022)


  9. #126
    Master of the Universe
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    FORD's Avatar
    Member No
    32
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 02:35 AM
    Location
    Snake Mountain
    Posts
    57,615
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    3,359
    Thanked 6,165 Times in 4,613 Posts


    Rep Power
    139
    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    How did it take a year for this to be posted here?
    Totally by accident... I just typed "Sammy Hagar Sucks" into the You Tube search window and that's the first thing that came up.

  10. Thanked FORD for this KICKASS post:

    Silexxx (11-11-2022)


  11. #127
    Lick me
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    Terry's Avatar
    Member No
    181
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 09:54 PM
    Location
    USA! USA! USA!
    Posts
    11,284
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    4,018
    Thanked 2,047 Times in 1,333 Posts


    Rep Power
    51
    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    This guy (surely he must be a member here) does a great job from about 7 minutes in of going through all the Sammy Hagar bullshit and lies over the years.

    That has long been by far the thing about Hagar that pissed me off the most, that being his inflated claims.

    Didn't particularly hate the guys music before he joined Van Halen. Didn't even bother me that he was the guy Van Halen got to sing after Dave left, because it was never a case of Van Halen chucking Roth out to get Hagar in.

    It was Hagar's bullshit, lies and attitude. Hagar from the day he joined Van Halen came off like he thought he was as big an act as a solo artist as Van Halen had been with Roth. Even back in 1985 without record sales figures at the ready, one knew this wasn't the case. Hagar's VOA record had done well the year prior to him joining Van Halen, but before that Hagar was hardly selling out arenas from coast to coast.

    The longer he was in Van Halen, the bigger his lies about record sales and concert venue sizes while he was in Van Halen got. Then, he began to rewrite the factual past in interviews about how successful his solo career had been.

    I suppose Hagar was trying to portray his joining Van Halen as something other than it was, which was an upgrade for Hagar. I mean, it just was. Hagar's biggest selling effort outside of Van Halen, VOA, went platinum. Not multi-platinum, but it broke a million copies. That same year, Van Halen's 1984 went multi-platinum and eventually sold 10 million + copies. Had Hagar not joined Van Halen, he wouldn't have released multi-platinum albums and sold out 15,000 seat arenas coast-to-coast.

    The interesting part of the clip was the guy talking about the Montrose album, and how Hagar attempted to retroactively inflate the sales for THAT record. Interesting in that after Hagar joined Van Halen the Montrose record got mentioned a bit in interviews, but I had never heard Montrose played on the radio and none of my friends had the record or had heard of it. A rock album that sold 4 million copies in the US alone in the mid-1970s, that would still have been getting airplay on classic rock stations in the 1980s and beyond. Now, learning that the album sold not 4 but 1 million copies, it's a bit more understandable as to why one never heard any of it on the radio nor hears any of it today.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  12. #128
    Full On Cocktard

    Member No
    37128
    Join Date
    May 2022
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 03:51 PM
    Location
    Cleveland, OH
    Posts
    36
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 24 Times in 15 Posts


    Rep Power
    0
    Much of Sam's career (and his entire business career) has been overcompensating for the fact that his music contributed nothing. It didn't impact anybody, didn't push the envelope, didn't inspire anybody to do anything. It fit it nicely with popular music at the time and made him enough money to pay off the boat. As time went on and people began to demand the Classic VH more and more while his material faded away, he got angrier and angrier. He couldn't, and still can't deal with the fact that people look right past his songs when they think of "Van Halen." He knows that without any Van Halen attached to he cred he would be absolutely nothing in the history of music. Now all he's left with is tequila, toys, money and a bunch of other material possessions to try and fill a hole. It's a sad story indeed. Blinding himself with toys like Charles Foster Kane.

  13. #129
    formerly F A T
    King Of Smut
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    twonabomber's Avatar
    Member No
    28
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 09:29 AM
    Location
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Age
    54
    Posts
    10,567
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    171
    Thanked 2,231 Times in 1,446 Posts


    Rep Power
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by Silexxx View Post
    “Mikey is like my brother from another mother. So much so that back in the early Van Halen days, Eddie would get all jealous. Because Mike and I would get into these soulful conversations for hours, and Eddie would be on the outside looking in.

    “And this was when we were all getting along great, not towards the end when our marriage fell apart. But even in the early days, Eddie would say, ‘Hey, I wanna hang out like you and Mike do.’ And I was like, ‘Cool, man. Let's do it. So, what's the problem?’
    Sammy and Eddie had houses next to each other in Malibu. Pretty sure it was mentioned in one of the Guitar World interviews. A quick Google found this:

    Eddie and Sammy began working on “Finish What Ya Started” at 2 AM one morning when Eddie made a middle-of-the-night trip to Sammy’s house in Malibu, which was next door to his home.
    But 35 years later that story will probably change, too. "I bought a house next to Ed and that fucker wouldn't talk to me! Some neighbor!"
    Last edited by twonabomber; 11-11-2022 at 07:38 PM.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  14. #130
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:35 AM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    31,389
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,252
    Thanked 3,681 Times in 2,986 Posts


    Blog Entries
    9
    Rep Power
    89
    Samís house was two doors down. I really donít care about a bandís soap opera. A band is like a business. Itís people working together towards a common goal. Some band mates are friends. Rush is a good example. In other bands itís a business relationship. The Van Halenís did pnít let Dave in the band because they were friends. They let Dave in because they could use his PA system and not pay Dave rent for it. If Dave didnít have something the brothers wanted Dave would not be in Van Halen.

    All I care about is he end product produced. I could care less about whoís backstabbing who. Who stole whoís girlfriend or why the singerís son looks a lot like the drummer. The drummer was probably banging something other than the drums.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  15. #131
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:35 AM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    31,389
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,252
    Thanked 3,681 Times in 2,986 Posts


    Blog Entries
    9
    Rep Power
    89
    Quote Originally Posted by MasonL View Post
    Much of Sam's career (and his entire business career) has been overcompensating for the fact that his music contributed nothing. It didn't impact anybody, didn't push the envelope, didn't inspire anybody to do anything. It fit it nicely with popular music at the time and made him enough money to pay off the boat. As time went on and people began to demand the Classic VH more and more while his material faded away, he got angrier and angrier. He couldn't, and still can't deal with the fact that people look right past his songs when they think of "Van Halen." He knows that without any Van Halen attached to he cred he would be absolutely nothing in the history of music. Now all he's left with is tequila, toys, money and a bunch of other material possessions to try and fill a hole. It's a sad story indeed. Blinding himself with toys like Charles Foster Kane.
    Sam should just be happy as holy shit that he managed to get the amount of money he has. The guy is constantly showing off the type of life he lives but Sam isn’t content driving cars very few people get to drive. Sam isn’t content that he can park his dick in better pussy than he could if he was a house painter. Sam isn’t content with multiple houses in fabulous destinations.

    Nope. Sam wants to be a legend. That he isn’t. Eddie is a legend. Dave is a legend. Sammy Hagar isn’t and deep down Sammy knows it. Van Halen is over. No Eddie Van Halen no Van Van Halen. Sam is too stupid to realize that reality. He desperately wants to do something with Alex and Mike to focus the VH legacy on himself. It’s some lame ass shit but Sam wants it so bad.
    Last edited by Nitro Express; 11-12-2022 at 02:19 AM.

  16. #132
    Loon
    SUPER MODERATOR

    Nickdfresh's Avatar
    Member No
    8719
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 06:26 PM
    Location
    Buffalo, NY
    Age
    52
    Posts
    48,153
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    3,175
    Thanked 4,361 Times in 3,296 Posts


    Rep Power
    112
    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Sam’s house was two doors down. I really don’t care about a band’s soap opera. A band is like a business. It’s people working together towards a common goal. Some band mates are friends. Rush is a good example. In other bands it’s a business relationship. The Van Halen’s did pn’t let Dave in the band because they were friends. They let Dave in because they could use his PA system and not pay Dave rent for it. If Dave didn’t have something the brothers wanted Dave would not be in Van Halen.

    All I care about is he end product produced. I could care less about who’s backstabbing who. Who stole who’s girlfriend or why the singer’s son looks a lot like the drummer. The drummer was probably banging something other than the drums.
    I dunno where I read it but at a certain point Ed and Dave were friends and they hung out and did stuff together. That relationship frayed and yeah it became mainly business. But I think up until maybe the Fair Warning era they were genuine friends if not BFF's...

    I think a good example is the Dave vs. Eddie peanuts/guacamole fight where Steve Perry was the collateral damage on their first album tour in 1978...
    Last edited by Nickdfresh; 11-12-2022 at 03:56 AM.

  17. #133
    Loon
    SUPER MODERATOR

    Nickdfresh's Avatar
    Member No
    8719
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 06:26 PM
    Location
    Buffalo, NY
    Age
    52
    Posts
    48,153
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    3,175
    Thanked 4,361 Times in 3,296 Posts


    Rep Power
    112
    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Sam should just be happy as holy shit that he managed to get the amount of money he has. The guy is constantly showing off the type of life he lives but Sam isn’t content driving cars very few people get to drive. Sam isn’t content that he can park his dick in better pussy than he could if he was a house painter. Sam isn’t content with multiple houses in fabulous destinations.

    Nope. Sam wants to be a legend. That he isn’t. Eddie is a legend. Dave is a legend. Sammy Hagar isn’t and deep down Sammy knows it. Van Halen is over. No Eddie Van Halen no Van Van Halen. Sam is too stupid to realize that reality. He desperately wants to do something with Alex and Mike to focus the VH legacy on himself. It’s some lame ass shit but Sam wants it so bad.
    My guess is that Sam's house painters put their dicks in Sam's pussy along with the pool boy. Just sayin'...

  18. #134
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:35 AM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    31,389
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,252
    Thanked 3,681 Times in 2,986 Posts


    Blog Entries
    9
    Rep Power
    89
    Sam did work as a house painter in San Francisco. He was one of the naive losers who went up there attracted by the summer of love illusion. Well he only could bum so far and he needed a job. He started painting houses. He probably made additional money and got drugs by being a sex gimp for rich old perverts in Pacific Heights. But Sam is a San Francisco guy and not an LA guy. That says it all. Sam craves the gay bay.

  19. #135
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:35 AM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    31,389
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,252
    Thanked 3,681 Times in 2,986 Posts


    Blog Entries
    9
    Rep Power
    89
    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    I dunno where I read it but at a certain point Ed and Dave were friends and they hung out and did stuff together. That relationship frayed and yeah it became mainly business. But I think up until maybe the Fair Warning era they were genuine friends if not BFF's...

    I think a good example is the Dave vs. Eddie peanuts/guacamole fight where Steve Perry was the collateral damage on their first album tour in 1978...
    Oddly enough success will ruin a band. Guys who can work together when there is little money and things are shoe string start to turn on each other when they become comfortable. Several managers have pointed this phenomenon out. You build a band up and when they finally make it they fall apart.

    I think maybe the cracks with Ed and Dave started to form when each of them started to think they didnít need the other. Eddie wanted to leave the band at one point because he couldnít stand Roth any longer. Alex had to tell Ed itís working so stick it out. Maybe if Alex wasnít in the band Ed would have left and VH would have fallen apart sooner.

  20. #136
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:35 AM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    31,389
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,252
    Thanked 3,681 Times in 2,986 Posts


    Blog Entries
    9
    Rep Power
    89
    Anyways it did come apart. Neil Zlowzower said there’s Dave and then there’s Diamond Dave. They are very different. Dave is always a great guy to hang with. Diamond Dave sometimes is a person you don’t want to be around. One thing I heard about Dave is he’s extremely moody and he’s got this Dr. jeckyl and Mr. Hyde type personality. You aren’t exactly sure what Dave you are going to get.

  21. #137
    Loon
    SUPER MODERATOR

    Nickdfresh's Avatar
    Member No
    8719
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 06:26 PM
    Location
    Buffalo, NY
    Age
    52
    Posts
    48,153
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    3,175
    Thanked 4,361 Times in 3,296 Posts


    Rep Power
    112
    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Anyways it did come apart. Neil Zlowzower said there’s Dave and then there’s Diamond Dave. They are very different. Dave is always a great guy to hang with. Diamond Dave sometimes is a person you don’t want to be around. One thing I heard about Dave is he’s extremely moody and he’s got this Dr. jeckyl and Mr. Hyde type personality. You aren’t exactly sure what Dave you are going to get.
    Monk said as much. During their tour of Britain with Black Sabbith in 1978, the mood of the entire band turned sour, as Van Halen was used to having groupies and getting laid. But Sabbith is vagina-repellant apparently and VH were a relative unknown quantity in the UK, so they didn't have many women in the crowds. This especially made Dave a prick being the narcissist he is. One of the roadies managed to pull a girl in a pub one night and caught up with the bus later the next morning after they had stopped for breakfast and this made Dave irate and while everyone else was cheering this kid, Dave said he should be fired. Monk, then touring manager, was disgusted and took a bite of Dave's uneaten hamburger when he was off sulking and this only made him more pissed and moody. Monk said he regretted it and apologized at first and said is was a joke but sort of ended up threatening Dave telling him to grow up and snap out of it.

  22. #138
    Loon
    SUPER MODERATOR

    Nickdfresh's Avatar
    Member No
    8719
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 06:26 PM
    Location
    Buffalo, NY
    Age
    52
    Posts
    48,153
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    3,175
    Thanked 4,361 Times in 3,296 Posts


    Rep Power
    112
    I think Noel Monk related overall that Dave was in many ways the most professional of the band when it came to schedules, traveling, and being on time. But he also said there were times he and his crew would coerce and threaten Dave when he had these fits of pouting and malingering or even went a bit off the rails. He said he wasn't around when the crew handcuffed Dave and was pissed off about it saying it was unnecessary and that he knew how to handle Dave without resorting to extremes...

  23. #139
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:35 AM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    31,389
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,252
    Thanked 3,681 Times in 2,986 Posts


    Blog Entries
    9
    Rep Power
    89
    It’s rock and roll. You are dealing with people who can’t live a normal lifestyle. Many seem to have attention deficit disorder. Others have other issues. It’s a circus of screwballs and the managers tend to be more responsible screwballs. It’s a shady/dysfunctional business so shit happens. People love the dysfunction until it it self-destructs and there’s no more freak show to enjoy.

    Anyways I think Noel Monk did a good job describing the fantasies of the fans and the reality behind the scenes. Now the freak show is in politics. Rock and roll looks sane compared to that.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Please, just STOP it
    By LoungeMachine in forum Max's Non VH/DLR Related Stuff
    Replies: 45
    Last Post: 05-08-2009, 06:44 AM
  2. Stop It, Enough Is Enough!
    By jcook11 in forum Main VH/DLR Discussion
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 07-21-2006, 11:24 AM
  3. can you stop the ...
    By thome in forum Website Related Discussion - Webmaster Feedback
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 03-06-2006, 01:55 PM
  4. please stop!!!
    By Jano in forum Main VH/DLR Discussion
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 05-01-2004, 02:43 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •