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Vinnie Velvet (11-27-2023)
In all honesty, I can't recall having seen or heard anything Hagar has done musically in terms of actually being able to remember now "oh, yeah, that sounded awful" more recently than some cell phone vids/audio files taken of the 2004 tour and that RnRHoF Van Halen thing in 2007 where he and Anthony played with the house band.
I do have a memory of listening to a couple tracks off the first Chickenfoot album but have no memory of what the tunes were or anything else beyond a recollection of thinking it was 'meh'. I also have a memory of having watched a clip in the last few years of Hagar and The Circle that was a video for a tune off of a recent studio album. Much like the Chickenfoot thing, I can't remember the tune now but also have a recollection of thinking as I watched the clip that it literally sounded like a tune that was knocked off in less time than it took to record re: lazy, uninspired, sort of a 'slap it together and get it out there because who gives a shit anyway, clearly we don't' type-vibe.
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Vinnie Velvet (11-27-2023)
The new album should be called LAME AS FUCK shitty songs for shitheads.
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Terry (11-28-2023)
Nice tits and nailing a celebrity chick was probably the fetish.
Probably because they wrote in 5 minutes. Here's Hagar in a 2009 saying how much better Joe is than Eddie.
https://blabbermouth.net/news/sammy-...s-joe-satriani
Hagar: As a writer, Joe is faster. That makes him easier for me to work with, because I come up with things really fast as well. As soon as I hear a chord structure, I have a melody, instantly. And then five seconds later I'm writing lyrics. Working with Joe is great. If I say to him, "Hey, let's do something funky," next thing I know he's saying, "How about this?" It's like, bang, he's done. Whereas with Eddie, he would come back a week later and want to re-do something.
But that said, working with Eddie was great, and we wrote great songs together. The Van-Hagar stuff still holds up fantastically well, but it was a slow process. It took three years to write the "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" album. And when I tried to do the Van-Hagar reunion, in 2004, and we were trying to make a new record, Eddie could only squeeze three songs out. He's just not as prolific, and not as fast. So that's the difference between them as far as writing.
As far as playing goes, they're both phenomenal. The innovations Eddie came up with in early VAN HALEN — before I was in the band — were just so unique, he gets lots of points for that. But as just a straight-up player, who can play anything, and plays perfect every time, there's no one better than Joe.
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Terry (11-28-2023)
Man. Fuck this ignorant motherfucking piece of shit. Here's the difference between Ed and Joe. Ed wrote album after album of memorable songs. Joe has written but a few memorable songs. He's written zero memorable songs with vocals. Maybe "Big Bad Moon"? I guess Clichegar likes Joe better because they can write shitty songs together, faster than he and Ed could.
There was a time when I could tolerate this fuckheads mindless drivel. That time has long passed.
I know I've told this story here, but since he's such a douchebag, it's worth repeating. I was backstage at a Dave and Sam show. I tell my wife (RIP) to wait at the picnic table so I could go find Ray. I come back and who is sitting at the table chatting with her? Fucking Clichegar. Now, I know he knew we were with Dave's camp, because we both had our DLR All Access Laminates hanging around our necks. I walk up and I'm pissed. I go to my wife "What the fuck are you doing?" Mr. badass boxer springs up from the table and goes "I have to go get ready for the show." Then he runs into his dressing room to drink his shitty drinks with Nugent and Kid Rock.
Later that same night Mona threatened to punch me!I was definitely more scared of her than I was of Clichegar! Mona and I were having some friendly banter about the two different camps on the tour. She was joking about punching me, I think.
She was super cool every time I ever met her, as was Vic.
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Spam is the fucking turd that reappears all the time, no matter how many times you flush the toilet.
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Ultimate Classic Rock has a "20 worst classic rock lyrics" article today and Hagar is on twice, even taking #1!
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I lived in a place in New York that had an old school toilet with the tank way up on the wall and a pull chain. It roared like a lion when you flushed it. That toilet could flush Sammy Hagar to Hell’s basement. I now have a high tech Japanese toilet that does more things to your asshole than the best gay lover you could find.
Jérôme Frenchise (11-29-2023),Vinnie Velvet (11-29-2023)
Joe Satriani’s biggest accomplishment is he’s even more boring onstage than Yngwie Malmsteen. I can take a half hour of Yngwie. I only can take fifteen minutes of Joe.
Too bad your wife didn’t pepper spray the bastard in the face. Oh you like red do you? Here you go, here’s red in your eyes! Then the ruckus gets attention by the media and you tell them the Red Cunt came on hard and he got what he deserved. I can see Roth hearing some lady sprayed Sammy. He would laugh and say well doesn’t the Cabo fuck like hot sauce?
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Vinnie Velvet (11-29-2023)
I wonder if Mona and Vic want to punch and kick the fuck out of Hagar at this point...
I liked Satriani's mainly guitar stuff but he might have had two good albums and they were niche for guitar heads only. I will put on Surfing with the Alien and his live EP from around that time, but could care less when he tried to sing on the later albums. Ed wrote complete songs and was able to collaborate in his prime and I don't think Joe can ever say that. He's not really a riff or complete song writer, more a 'writing excuses for extended solos'. I think his career is sort of like Jeff Beck's, but less notable and I doubt Beck would have anything to do with a shit-spewer like Hagar. He needs a solid collaborator like maybe Rod Stewart was for Beck to do anything viable and Hagar isn't even near Stewart in terms of relevance...
I think Satriani was in Mick Jaggers 80's solo live backup group that Kieth once called "a jerkoff band", though Beck was on the album. I can't think of a better title for "Chickencunt"...
Also, I recall vividly in high school or maybe on leave reading an article on Satch where he sort of takes digs at Edward for just 'two-hand-tapping". Well fuck Joe, form a band and release some hits why dont'cha. Tell me when you get anything near Fair Warning...
Last edited by Nickdfresh; 11-29-2023 at 07:46 PM.
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Von Halen (11-30-2023)
Sammy foolishly thought some hot shot like Joe could be Eddie Van Halen. It’s all a publicity stunt to sell the boxed set coming out. Hagar is about sales. Period. It’s shameless and the fans see right through it. The Van Halen’s didn’t trust Sammy Hagar. Well it’s a shit bomb that blew up right in Sam’s face. Joe was a dumbass to go along with it. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
He really is a fucking idiot. The more you listen to him you know that his one great achievement in life, making the tequila money, just has to have been a fluke. Someone else doing all the business stuff coupled with standing on the shoulders of the CVH base. The guy is a dummy.
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The tequila was a happy mistake. Sam simply bought tequila in Jalisco for his club. He got a liquor import license and imported it to the states and jacked the price up. He did shamelessly promote it and had the Van Halen platform to do it from. Sam basically got out and sold the Girl Scout cookies.
Considering how long he worked in music and worked with Eddie Van Halen, Sammy understands little about either of them. He’s demonstrated he knows nothing.
Now he can pimp and sell.
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