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    To be honest with you, I appreciate Ace more now than I ever did. Yeah some of his solos were some of the best ever written. It's not about flash. It's about feel and saying something. Most people just play. Very few make it talk to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    To be honest with you, I appreciate Ace more now than I ever did. Yeah some of his solos were some of the best ever written. It's not about flash. It's about feel and saying something. Most people just play. Very few make it talk to you.
    He kept chugging along even after KISS with his style intact.

    I could still throw his 1978 solo record on and listen to it from start to finish. I've always thought he did some really great stuff on that. Inventive.

    Just straight up rock and roll. KISS had that great run of albums from Alive! through Alive 2 - the stuff before Alive! strictly on the merits of the limited production makes that stuff kinda unlistenable to me - and there were some good tunes on Dynasty and Unmasked. Creatures was a great album, but it was never quite the same for me after Peter and Ace left the group. Even when the band finally got tough again on Revenge...

    I dunno. It took those four guys in the 1970s and that particular sound they made, and probably my being as young as I was back then helped, too.

    Anyway, what was this thread about? Oh, yeah, Steve Vai.
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    He still puts out good songs. Some remakes others original material. Saw a photo of Ace's current studio. It's really cool.

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    Vai cracks me up. He calls his studio the Harmony Hut. He's got a little loft in it he crawls up into and does meditation but hey, that's Steve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    He still puts out good songs. Some remakes others original material. Saw a photo of Ace's current studio. It's really cool.
    I love Ace and I love KISS - especially the original era. Its no secret KISS became KISS only when Ace first plugged in and they played Deuce. Cause you have to remember, Paul Gene and Peter played for months as a threepiece in their loft long before Ace joined. He was the last.

    Ace today? Well, to be fair age and substance abuse in his younger years have made him slow and lethargic. His band truly carries the load but the songs just plod along now. Parasite for instance is just too slow.

    Now I am basing this on watching youtubes. I havent seen Ace currently in a live setting. So maybe the vibe is better live and you dont notice or care about the quality of the playing.
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    I checked out where that KISS loft used to be. It’s just a few doors down the street from the Flat Iron Building.

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    Ace was fine when I saw him. Not bad for a guy who’s 70 years old. He looked healthy and was in a good mood. He nailed his solos. Those were as good as they ever were. He tossed out a lot of guitar picks and kind of slacked off during the songs. He had the show rigged where he wouldn’t have to sing all the songs and play guitar all the time but it worked. The sound quality was great. He had a good sound guy.

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    Anyways back to Steve. Ha! Ha! We find that slacker Ace more interesting. Ha! Ha!

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    What can you say. Ace cooked up some tasty licks we all still enjoy. Enough said.

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    Seems like a nice guy. Bit of a pretentious fuck if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Seems like a nice guy. Bit of a pretentious fuck if you ask me.

    Why isn't he stompinghis feet on pedals, his right foot on a big bass drum and his left one a charley cymbal while he's at it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jérôme Frenchise View Post
    Why isn't he stompinghis feet on pedals, his right foot on a big bass drum and his left one a charley cymbal while he's at it?


    You do wonder what the fuck is the point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jérôme Frenchise View Post
    Why isn't he stompinghis feet on pedals, his right foot on a big bass drum and his left one a charley cymbal while he's at it?
    Pat Metheny beat him to it


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    Julien's Auctions has a bunch of Vai stuff (including some DLR related) up for bid:

    https://www.julienslive.com/auctions...ey=steve%20vai

    Having watched the Vai video some of the items stick out (ice cream truck paperwork, etc.)

    Also a Cradle Will Rock stage played guitar:

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    and a Taylor Hawkins Tribute multi artist signed Frankenstrat:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    I did as you instructed.

    Hadn't heard that record in...32 years.

    Without a doubt a LOT of music going on! I kinda found the backing non-guitar music more interesting than much of the lead guitar over the top of it, whereas thirty years ago I probably would have been concentrating much more on what Vai was doing.
    Wow sorry just reread this thread and I had a total brain fart.

    What I absolutely meant to say and thought I had was 'Try listening to the first 4 or 5 songs on Sex & Religion'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Wow sorry just reread this thread and I had a total brain fart.

    What I absolutely meant to say and thought I had was 'Try listening to the first 4 or 5 songs on Sex & Religion'
    Oh. Well, no worries.

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    I came to this forum because I'm researching my next documentary. And I see someone posted my Steve Vai doc here. Thank you!! I hope you enjoyed it!!
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