Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 40 of 94

Thread: Roth Lives! Ain't Talkin' Bout Love - David Lee Roth Studio Live

  1. #1
    Roadie
    Silexxx's Avatar
    Member No
    25630
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Online
    Today @ 07:42 AM
    Location
    Finland
    Age
    33
    Posts
    101
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    75
    Thanked 102 Times in 40 Posts


    Rep Power
    14

    Roth Lives! Ain't Talkin' Bout Love - David Lee Roth Studio Live



    Recorded in May 2022
    Henson Studios
    Los Angeles, CA

    Al Estrada: Guitar
    Ryan Wheeler: Bass
    Francis Valentino: Drums

    Recorded by Tom Syrowski
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  2. #2
    THE SHOWSTOPPA
    Full Member Status

    Vinnie Velvet's Avatar
    Member No
    1201
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 12:06 PM
    Location
    Hard Rock City
    Age
    48
    Posts
    4,303
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    124
    Thanked 358 Times in 229 Posts


    Rep Power
    26
    I'm digging it yeah. Its what it says it is. Much like Panama. This is live in the studio.

    Dave sounds alright to my ears.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  3. 4 users say thank you to Vinnie Velvet for this KICKASS post:

    Nitro Express (09-13-2022),Silexxx (09-13-2022),Von Halen (09-13-2022),ZahZoo (09-13-2022)


  4. #3
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    Von Halen's Avatar
    Member No
    15
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Last Online
    Today @ 02:18 PM
    Location
    Washington Twp., MI
    Age
    59
    Posts
    7,244
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    1,840
    Thanked 3,280 Times in 1,853 Posts


    Rep Power
    10
    Why is Dave doing this?
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  5. 2 users say thank you to Von Halen for this KICKASS post:

    Fairwrning (09-13-2022),High Life Man (09-16-2022)


  6. #4
    THE SHOWSTOPPA
    Full Member Status

    Vinnie Velvet's Avatar
    Member No
    1201
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 12:06 PM
    Location
    Hard Rock City
    Age
    48
    Posts
    4,303
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    124
    Thanked 358 Times in 229 Posts


    Rep Power
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Why is Dave doing this?
    It could mean a few things.

    Dave could very well be releasing this as an actual product. DLR - Studio Live.

    Or he's just giving us some free stuff via youtube etc

    Or this is his way of saying "I'm not dead yet" hence "Roth Lives!"

    Whatever it is Dave never really does things without reason or motivation.

  7. #5
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    Seshmeister's Avatar
    Member No
    11
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Last Online
    Today @ 02:19 PM
    Location
    Scotland
    Posts
    34,098
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    2,668
    Thanked 8,974 Times in 5,769 Posts


    Rep Power
    10
    I think maybe that Gene Simmons thing really got under his skin.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  8. #6
    Sniper
    Mushroom's Avatar
    Member No
    24813
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Online
    11-28-2022 @ 07:27 PM
    Location
    North America
    Posts
    968
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    132
    Thanked 169 Times in 131 Posts


    Rep Power
    15
    Boring.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  9. Thanked Mushroom for this KICKASS post:

    Kristy (09-13-2022)


  10. #7
    THE SHOWSTOPPA
    Full Member Status

    Vinnie Velvet's Avatar
    Member No
    1201
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 12:06 PM
    Location
    Hard Rock City
    Age
    48
    Posts
    4,303
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    124
    Thanked 358 Times in 229 Posts


    Rep Power
    26
    Maybe Dave can't really perform on stage anymore or maybe he can. I don't know.

    But let's be honest, Sharon can drag out a Parkinson Ozzy on stage and have him lip sync; Paul Stanley goes out and lipsyncs, Vince Neil goes out does his thing (still fat though), Joe Elliot at times having trouble holding a note but looks like Martha Stewart and Jon Bon Jovi butchering his own songs ..... what's stopping Dave from going back out??

    He can still do it judging by these Studio Live sessions. Some backing tapes featuring Mike on his last tour helped.

    There are several festivals that would love to have him on their bill if its not a tour on his own.

    Dave has to get creative though. The classic promo shots on these Studio Live releases is a start. Ok, put that on a new T shirt. There are tons of young people out there who would buy and wear it. Dave doesn't have to dress up and try to look like classic Dave - but he can still sell it.
    Last edited by Vinnie Velvet; 09-13-2022 at 04:30 PM.

  11. #8
    Sniper
    Mushroom's Avatar
    Member No
    24813
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Online
    11-28-2022 @ 07:27 PM
    Location
    North America
    Posts
    968
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    132
    Thanked 169 Times in 131 Posts


    Rep Power
    15
    Dave has better control of his baritone and bass range, and he actually sounds good. He should limit himself... the warning light needs to come on once he's getting in the high end of the tenor range.

  12. Thanked Mushroom for this KICKASS post:

    Vinnie Velvet (09-13-2022)


  13. #9
    THE SHOWSTOPPA
    Full Member Status

    Vinnie Velvet's Avatar
    Member No
    1201
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 12:06 PM
    Location
    Hard Rock City
    Age
    48
    Posts
    4,303
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    124
    Thanked 358 Times in 229 Posts


    Rep Power
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by Mushroom View Post
    Dave has better control of his baritone and bass range, and he actually sounds good. He should limit himself... the warning light needs to come on once he's getting in the high end of the tenor range.
    I think what happens is when he's in a groove and wants to let out a classic Dave scream, he tries but then what comes out is garbly goo.

    We've all tried it. Singing along to CVH in the car or wherever and then trying to do those screams. What comes out doesnt sound good. Lol

    Dave doesn't have the scream anymore so when he tries it, a garbled yell comes out.

  14. #10
    Full On Cocktard

    Member No
    37128
    Join Date
    May 2022
    Last Online
    Today @ 12:03 PM
    Location
    Cleveland, OH
    Posts
    34
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 21 Times in 14 Posts


    Rep Power
    0
    This is the most accurate I’ve heard Dave sing Ain’t Talkin Bout Love in decades. Even the chlorides “my love is rotten to the core.” Estrada sounds very good but yeah the drums are so non-descript and cookie cutter it drags the sound a bit. Still fun! Awesome to know that Dave can still bring it vocally if he wants to.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  15. Thanked MasonL for this KICKASS post:

    Vinnie Velvet (09-13-2022)


  16. #11
    Sniper
    Mushroom's Avatar
    Member No
    24813
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Online
    11-28-2022 @ 07:27 PM
    Location
    North America
    Posts
    968
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    132
    Thanked 169 Times in 131 Posts


    Rep Power
    15
    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    I think what happens is when he's in a groove and wants to let out a classic Dave scream, he tries but then what comes out is garbly goo.

    We've all tried it. Singing along to CVH in the car or wherever and then trying to do those screams. What comes out doesnt sound good. Lol

    Dave doesn't have the scream anymore so when he tries it, a garbled yell comes out.
    Yes exactly why I am not a singer. So I give him A for effort.

  17. #12
    Full On Cocktard

    Member No
    37128
    Join Date
    May 2022
    Last Online
    Today @ 12:03 PM
    Location
    Cleveland, OH
    Posts
    34
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 21 Times in 14 Posts


    Rep Power
    0
    Hard to tell. He seems to just do things on a whim without a real endgame in mind. That’s all the way back to the beginning of his solo career. If he had really stuck with that band and made an effort he could’ve maintained some relevancy.

    But it could be a way to prime people for a renewal of his Vegas shows. Or just planting a flag and saying “hey I can still do this.” Who knows

  18. Thanked MasonL for this KICKASS post:

    Nitro Express (09-13-2022)


  19. #13
    F A T Barb Lives Matter
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Kristy's Avatar
    Member No
    7609
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    10-10-2022 @ 11:19 AM
    Location
    Denver, Colo
    Posts
    15,591
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,734
    Thanked 2,599 Times in 1,938 Posts


    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    60
    Quote Originally Posted by Mushroom View Post
    Boring.
    Sounds like a high school cover band on talent night.


    Roth has money. He can afford a retirement home where he can't hurt nobody
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  20. #14
    F A T Barb Lives Matter
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Kristy's Avatar
    Member No
    7609
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    10-10-2022 @ 11:19 AM
    Location
    Denver, Colo
    Posts
    15,591
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,734
    Thanked 2,599 Times in 1,938 Posts


    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    60
    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Why is Dave doing this?
    To "platform" himself.


    Like, DUH!?

  21. Thanked Kristy for this KICKASS post:

    Mushroom (09-13-2022)


  22. #15
    Sniper
    Mushroom's Avatar
    Member No
    24813
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Online
    11-28-2022 @ 07:27 PM
    Location
    North America
    Posts
    968
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    132
    Thanked 169 Times in 131 Posts


    Rep Power
    15
    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Sounds like a high school cover band on talent night.


    Roth has money. He can afford a retirement home where he can't hurt nobody
    And a couple of hot AF nurses to boot!

    Screen Shot 2022-09-13 at 12.56.45 PM.jpg

    Screen Shot 2022-09-13 at 12.56.12 PM.jpg

  23. #16
    F A T Barb Lives Matter
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Kristy's Avatar
    Member No
    7609
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    10-10-2022 @ 11:19 AM
    Location
    Denver, Colo
    Posts
    15,591
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,734
    Thanked 2,599 Times in 1,938 Posts


    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    60
    Both look like Ivanka Trump. Gross

  24. Thanked Kristy for this KICKASS post:

    Nitro Express (09-13-2022)


  25. #17
    Talks To Trees
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    ZahZoo's Avatar
    Member No
    61
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    11-28-2022 @ 06:36 PM
    Location
    3rd Stone From The Sun
    Posts
    8,619
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    2,236
    Thanked 2,914 Times in 1,890 Posts


    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    10
    More Fake News™...

    Skip to the 17:20 mark and hear how it really should sound live

    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  26. Thanked ZahZoo for this KICKASS post:

    Von Halen (09-14-2022)


  27. #18
    Talks To Trees
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    ZahZoo's Avatar
    Member No
    61
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    11-28-2022 @ 06:36 PM
    Location
    3rd Stone From The Sun
    Posts
    8,619
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    2,236
    Thanked 2,914 Times in 1,890 Posts


    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Why is Dave doing this?
    Simple answer... Insanity.

    The act of doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result. In this case, with 75% substandard content.

  28. Thanked ZahZoo for this KICKASS post:

    Von Halen (09-14-2022)


  29. #19
    THE SHOWSTOPPA
    Full Member Status

    Vinnie Velvet's Avatar
    Member No
    1201
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 12:06 PM
    Location
    Hard Rock City
    Age
    48
    Posts
    4,303
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    124
    Thanked 358 Times in 229 Posts


    Rep Power
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Simple answer... Insanity.

    The act of doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result. In this case, with 75% substandard content.
    Come on Zah.

    Just relax and enjoy.

  30. #20
    " Littering and...."
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    Fairwrning's Avatar
    Member No
    22
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    09-20-2022 @ 02:14 PM
    Location
    Virginia
    Age
    56
    Posts
    11,334
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    217
    Thanked 713 Times in 487 Posts


    Rep Power
    37
    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Why is Dave doing this?
    I think its kind of like the vibe around here..he just cant or wont let it go..Much like a Sammy interview..
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  31. Thanked Fairwrning for this KICKASS post:

    Terry (09-13-2022)


  32. #21
    Lick me
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    Terry's Avatar
    Member No
    181
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 08:43 PM
    Location
    USA! USA! USA!
    Posts
    11,280
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    4,012
    Thanked 2,045 Times in 1,332 Posts


    Rep Power
    51
    Quote Originally Posted by Fairwrning View Post
    I think its kind of like the vibe around here..he just cant or wont let it go..Much like a Sammy interview..
    Done it for so long can't even entertain the thought of stopping.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  33. #22
    Talks To Trees
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    ZahZoo's Avatar
    Member No
    61
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    11-28-2022 @ 06:36 PM
    Location
    3rd Stone From The Sun
    Posts
    8,619
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    2,236
    Thanked 2,914 Times in 1,890 Posts


    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    Come on Zah.

    Just relax and enjoy.
    I'm relaxed... just not enjoying this. The wealth of what could be done by this man far exceeds the value proposition of anything of interest he could derive from these recordings.

  34. Thanked ZahZoo for this KICKASS post:

    Von Halen (09-14-2022)


  35. #23
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 04:30 AM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    31,339
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,247
    Thanked 3,675 Times in 2,981 Posts


    Blog Entries
    9
    Rep Power
    89
    Quote Originally Posted by MasonL View Post
    Hard to tell. He seems to just do things on a whim without a real endgame in mind. That’s all the way back to the beginning of his solo career. If he had really stuck with that band and made an effort he could’ve maintained some relevancy.

    But it could be a way to prime people for a renewal of his Vegas shows. Or just planting a flag and saying “hey I can still do this.” Who knows
    You nailed it. It's like his Tattoo skin product line. I think Dave had some great ideas but he didn't carry it through. Dave is short bursts of brilliance but he's so eccentric he's all over the place and tends to self-destruct.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  36. Thanked Nitro Express for this KICKASS post:

    Von Halen (09-14-2022)


  37. #24
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 04:30 AM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    31,339
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,247
    Thanked 3,675 Times in 2,981 Posts


    Blog Entries
    9
    Rep Power
    89
    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Simple answer... Insanity.

    The act of doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result. In this case, with 75% substandard content.

    Well the VH road crew did have to restrain Dave with a straight jacket. Ha! Ha! Who knows what's going to happen when Dr. Rockso gets wound up.

  38. #25
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 04:30 AM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    31,339
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,247
    Thanked 3,675 Times in 2,981 Posts


    Blog Entries
    9
    Rep Power
    89
    Quote Originally Posted by Mushroom View Post
    Yes exactly why I am not a singer. So I give him A for effort.
    I always like to go see Cheap Trick when I can and every time without fail Robin Zander always sounds great. He's no spring chicken and those guys are always on the road. That's a lot of singing. I don't know how his does it.

  39. Thanked Nitro Express for this KICKASS post:

    Terry (09-14-2022)


  40. #26
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 04:30 AM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    31,339
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,247
    Thanked 3,675 Times in 2,981 Posts


    Blog Entries
    9
    Rep Power
    89
    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    I think what happens is when he's in a groove and wants to let out a classic Dave scream, he tries but then what comes out is garbly goo.

    We've all tried it. Singing along to CVH in the car or wherever and then trying to do those screams. What comes out doesnt sound good. Lol

    Dave doesn't have the scream anymore so when he tries it, a garbled yell comes out.
    He went from a groupie giving him a finger up the ass during a blow job to an old dude groaning during a prostate exam.

  41. Thanked Nitro Express for this KICKASS post:

    Vinnie Velvet (09-14-2022)


  42. #27
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    Von Halen's Avatar
    Member No
    15
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Last Online
    Today @ 02:18 PM
    Location
    Washington Twp., MI
    Age
    59
    Posts
    7,244
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    1,840
    Thanked 3,280 Times in 1,853 Posts


    Rep Power
    10
    I'm sorry. I just don't see the point of these releases. I'm definitely not putting on one of these recordings instead of the original versions. Hell, I'm not even putting one of these on over the live bootleg versions from the 80's.

    I just don't get him doing this. If it is to prove he can still sing, then fucking go do it in front of an audience. Or go doctor up that abortion of a live album Van Halen released. There is ZERO reason to be recording and releasing these songs with a cover band.

    Is his creativity really this stagnant?

  43. 4 users say thank you to Von Halen for this KICKASS post:

    Kristy (09-14-2022),moose (09-15-2022),Terry (09-14-2022),ZahZoo (09-14-2022)


  44. #28
    THE SHOWSTOPPA
    Full Member Status

    Vinnie Velvet's Avatar
    Member No
    1201
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 12:06 PM
    Location
    Hard Rock City
    Age
    48
    Posts
    4,303
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    124
    Thanked 358 Times in 229 Posts


    Rep Power
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    I'm sorry. I just don't see the point of these releases. I'm definitely not putting on one of these recordings instead of the original versions. Hell, I'm not even putting one of these on over the live bootleg versions from the 80's.

    I just don't get him doing this. If it is to prove he can still sing, then fucking go do it in front of an audience. Or go doctor up that abortion of a live album Van Halen released. There is ZERO reason to be recording and releasing these songs with a cover band.

    Is his creativity really this stagnant?
    Perhaps it is we don't know.

    Clearly with Ed gone Dave seems to be sputtering. Not knowing what to do next.

    He could resume his solo career or get the EEAS band back together and so some festival gigs. Like I said if all his contemporaries who croak through their own songs are still out there why not him?

    But he doesn't want to do that either. Or can't - physically. Who knows.

  45. #29
    Talks To Trees
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    ZahZoo's Avatar
    Member No
    61
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    11-28-2022 @ 06:36 PM
    Location
    3rd Stone From The Sun
    Posts
    8,619
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    2,236
    Thanked 2,914 Times in 1,890 Posts


    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    10
    If Dave wants to do solo work then do solo material... he's got 6 solo albums plus the Bar-B-Q, John5 and several singles worth of material to dick-around with.

    EEAS won't reunite... they couldn't even pull off a one-off gig at this phase. Plus, no one from that band is interested or capable of organizing such a venture.

    Live "In the studio" is not fucking Live. It's Dave, a cover band, an engineer and the janitor... If this is Dave's way of carrying on the legacy of Van Halen or the highlight of his Van Halen career... sorry Pal, half-assed doesn't cut it. The legacy stands on it's own without this watered down crap. Go big... or get a new dog and stay home... Enjoy retirement.

  46. Thanked ZahZoo for this KICKASS post:

    Von Halen (09-14-2022)


  47. #30
    Lick me
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    Terry's Avatar
    Member No
    181
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 08:43 PM
    Location
    USA! USA! USA!
    Posts
    11,280
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    4,012
    Thanked 2,045 Times in 1,332 Posts


    Rep Power
    51
    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I always like to go see Cheap Trick when I can and every time without fail Robin Zander always sounds great. He's no spring chicken and those guys are always on the road. That's a lot of singing. I don't know how his does it.
    The last I'd heard of Zander live was maybe...7 years ago. He was no spring chicken then, either, but his voice had held up very well.

  48. #31
    Lick me
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    Terry's Avatar
    Member No
    181
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 08:43 PM
    Location
    USA! USA! USA!
    Posts
    11,280
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    4,012
    Thanked 2,045 Times in 1,332 Posts


    Rep Power
    51
    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    I'm sorry. I just don't see the point of these releases. I'm definitely not putting on one of these recordings instead of the original versions. Hell, I'm not even putting one of these on over the live bootleg versions from the 80's.

    I just don't get him doing this. If it is to prove he can still sing, then fucking go do it in front of an audience. Or go doctor up that abortion of a live album Van Halen released. There is ZERO reason to be recording and releasing these songs with a cover band.

    Is his creativity really this stagnant?

    Listened to both these tracks, and the effect is one of bemusement.

    As you say, it's not like hearing either of these versions makes me not prefer the original VH recordings of them. It's not even like when he did an acoustic version of Meanstreet on the BBQ that was different from the original recorded version, so at least there was the stylistic novelty of that. Even if he is recording new versions of the VH stuff and the backing band is highly competent, it's still the voice he has now.

  49. 2 users say thank you to Terry for this KICKASS post:

    Von Halen (09-14-2022),ZahZoo (09-15-2022)


  50. #32
    Lick me
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    Terry's Avatar
    Member No
    181
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 08:43 PM
    Location
    USA! USA! USA!
    Posts
    11,280
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    4,012
    Thanked 2,045 Times in 1,332 Posts


    Rep Power
    51
    I can understand why Dave leaned heavily on the VH material live from 1999 on. That's what people wanted to hear when they bought the ticket.

    I can't imagine anybody wanting to hear new studio re-recordings of old VH material. Not when it's being approached from a tribute cover band angle, trying to recreate the original performances.

    What's the reason behind it? Even if playing VH tunes would naturally be done in a rehearsal setting to audition musicians for a live act, yeah, I can see where he would record a live rehearsal for listening purposes. It doesn't seem like that was the reason or method behind this, though.

  51. Thanked Terry for this KICKASS post:

    Von Halen (09-14-2022)


  52. #33
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 04:30 AM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    31,339
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,247
    Thanked 3,675 Times in 2,981 Posts


    Blog Entries
    9
    Rep Power
    89
    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    I'm sorry. I just don't see the point of these releases. I'm definitely not putting on one of these recordings instead of the original versions. Hell, I'm not even putting one of these on over the live bootleg versions from the 80's.

    I just don't get him doing this. If it is to prove he can still sing, then fucking go do it in front of an audience. Or go doctor up that abortion of a live album Van Halen released. There is ZERO reason to be recording and releasing these songs with a cover band.

    Is his creativity really this stagnant?
    There's no point to it. You are talking about a guy who lives alone in a big house and dances in front of mirrors. You are talking about a guy who covered his whole body with tattoos. You are talking about a guy who does weird random shit. He rarely makes any sense. There's no point to it. It's another random Dave project.

  53. Thanked Nitro Express for this KICKASS post:

    Vinnie Velvet (09-14-2022)


  54. #34
    THE SHOWSTOPPA
    Full Member Status

    Vinnie Velvet's Avatar
    Member No
    1201
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 12:06 PM
    Location
    Hard Rock City
    Age
    48
    Posts
    4,303
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    124
    Thanked 358 Times in 229 Posts


    Rep Power
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    There's no point to it. You are talking about a guy who lives alone in a big house and dances in front of mirrors. You are talking about a guy who covered his whole body with tattoos. You are talking about a guy who does weird random shit. He rarely makes any sense. There's no point to it. It's another random Dave project.
    And thats what it is. He's not releasing this as an official product - at least we don't think he will.

    The John 5 album hasnt even seen an official release so likely these studio live cuts won't either.

  55. #35
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 04:30 AM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    31,339
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,247
    Thanked 3,675 Times in 2,981 Posts


    Blog Entries
    9
    Rep Power
    89
    You people are trying to do the impossible. You are trying to figure out Dave. Good luck!

  56. Thanked Nitro Express for this KICKASS post:

    Fairwrning (09-15-2022)


  57. #36
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 04:30 AM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    31,339
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,247
    Thanked 3,675 Times in 2,981 Posts


    Blog Entries
    9
    Rep Power
    89
    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    I can understand why Dave leaned heavily on the VH material live from 1999 on. That's what people wanted to hear when they bought the ticket.

    I can't imagine anybody wanting to hear new studio re-recordings of old VH material. Not when it's being approached from a tribute cover band angle, trying to recreate the original performances.

    What's the reason behind it? Even if playing VH tunes would naturally be done in a rehearsal setting to audition musicians for a live act, yeah, I can see where he would record a live rehearsal for listening purposes. It doesn't seem like that was the reason or method behind this, though.
    You can’t have Van Halen without Eddie Van Halen. That’s like trying to have chocolate cake without chocolate in it.

  58. Thanked Nitro Express for this KICKASS post:

    Terry (09-14-2022)


  59. #37
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 04:30 AM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    31,339
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,247
    Thanked 3,675 Times in 2,981 Posts


    Blog Entries
    9
    Rep Power
    89
    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    And thats what it is. He's not releasing this as an official product - at least we don't think he will.

    The John 5 album hasnt even seen an official release so likely these studio live cuts won't either.
    I think it’s the desire to do it still. One very well known guitar player told me he still performs and records because it’s a diminishing skill. He doesn’t want to lose it. He doesn’t need the money, he actually has other businesses that need his attention but he just can’t give up music. I think Dave is a bit that way.

  60. #38
    THE SHOWSTOPPA
    Full Member Status

    Vinnie Velvet's Avatar
    Member No
    1201
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 12:06 PM
    Location
    Hard Rock City
    Age
    48
    Posts
    4,303
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    124
    Thanked 358 Times in 229 Posts


    Rep Power
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I think it’s the desire to do it still. One very well known guitar player told me he still performs and records because it’s a diminishing skill. He doesn’t want to lose it. He doesn’t need the money, he actually has other businesses that need his attention but he just can’t give up music. I think Dave is a bit that way.
    Yeah so then he got his touring band together and banged out a set list of songs and recorded them.

    And thus sharing it on social media.

    Dont be surprised if he posts another cut but this time it being a solo-era song.

  61. #39
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    Seshmeister's Avatar
    Member No
    11
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Last Online
    Today @ 02:19 PM
    Location
    Scotland
    Posts
    34,098
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    2,668
    Thanked 8,974 Times in 5,769 Posts


    Rep Power
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    I'm sorry. I just don't see the point of these releases. I'm definitely not putting on one of these recordings instead of the original versions. Hell, I'm not even putting one of these on over the live bootleg versions from the 80's.
    I don't view these as releases it's only on YouTube and it's not commercial. It occurred to me I wasn't sure if anyone had checked if they are on Spotify and they aren't which is very understandable. The John5 stuff is and in fact technically he has released 5 new solo songs in the last couple of years so by recent standards he's been super productive. Because it's not been promoted, we know it's been recorded a few years ago and it's coming out sporadically it doesn't feel like that.

  62. #40
    Talks To Trees
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    ZahZoo's Avatar
    Member No
    61
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    11-28-2022 @ 06:36 PM
    Location
    3rd Stone From The Sun
    Posts
    8,619
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    2,236
    Thanked 2,914 Times in 1,890 Posts


    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    10
    I could understand the motivation to share these recordings if it were an artistic reinterpretation of the original material... but it's not.

    The only creative differences in these recordings are primarily two factors...

    • The cover band's inability to reproduce the original musical elements correctly

    • Dave's inability to replicate his singing of the songs due to his aging body


    I find no improvement in the product over the originals. Quite the opposite. Plus I get the nice sentiment of... at least he's doing something. But it falls flat. The irony is, as fans, we're even exploring the technicalities of what these are not... That's an indicator of having to work too hard to understand something or justify it's existence.

  63. Thanked ZahZoo for this KICKASS post:

    Von Halen (09-15-2022)


Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Roth Lives! Panama-David Lee Roth Studio Live
    By MasonL in forum Main VH/DLR Discussion
    Replies: 39
    Last Post: 09-05-2022, 03:33 PM
  2. Van Halen - Aint Talkin' Bout Love (REACTION!!!)
    By Seshmeister in forum VH/DLR Songs And Albums
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 08-14-2020, 10:50 PM
  3. Camp Freddy Performs Ain't Talkin Bout Love - 03.07.10
    By VAiN in forum VH/DLR Songs And Albums
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 03-11-2010, 02:18 PM
  4. Bertinelli & Ed - Ain't Talkin bout LOVE
    By bantonelli in forum Main VH/DLR Discussion
    Replies: 47
    Last Post: 12-12-2005, 08:07 AM
  5. Punk Cover Of Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love?
    By Unchainme in forum Main VH/DLR Discussion
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 11-03-2005, 10:12 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •