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  • Jérôme Frenchise
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Nov 2004
    • 7173

    WVH: "I play Panama for my dad, not for you guys"

    At least he's honest. But though I don't know who he was addressing (maybe a true cunt), it really smells of contempt.

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  • ZahZoo
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Jan 2004
    • 8961

    #2
    He despises some of his father's fans and uses his grief anger on social media to lash out at them... seems typical.

    Can't blame him... his dad hated the same people who made him rich and globally famous. Quite frankly a good number of assholes make up the Van Halen fan base... This is the way...
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    • Terry
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Jan 2004
      • 11957

      #3
      I suppose it's easy when thinking of the monetary reward that from a non-famous standpoint I couldn't imagine not ever being publicly gracious toward the fans.

      Then again, maybe it'd be all too easy the longer one is famous to take the fans for granted.

      Wolfgang at times gives off an attitude of someone who has lived an entitled existence all his life, possibly because he literally HAS had such an existence all his life. It doesn't seem that he's had to really work for anything in terms of starting from nothing. His fame and his money being bequeathed to him by the fact of his lineage.

      Being the kid of Eddie Van Halen got his feet in the door. Doubtless a percentage of VH fans will have an interest in what he does musically going forward. Probably would be a smart move to just refrain from engaging with rude comments directed toward him on social media, but he's free to go down that rabbit hole. I can't see how doing so is going to help him in terms of his career going forward, although maybe trolling fans online and playing VH tunes will pretty much be his career going forward...kinda seems to be shaping up that way.

      Maybe he should go the Janie Hendrix route. At least that might result in getting some of whatever unreleased Van Halen stuff exists out there.
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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32797

        #4
        Originally posted by ZahZoo
        He despises some of his father's fans and uses his grief anger on social media to lash out at them... seems typical.

        Can't blame him... his dad hated the same people who made him rich and globally famous. Quite frankly a good number of assholes make up the Van Halen fan base... This is the way...
        I think he lashes out at people who really don't deserve the lashing. He dumps on people for real little things. For the people who put his dad's death certificate online, sure, rip em but don't rip someone for asking if you are going to play any Van Halen songs in your show. It might annoy you but the person didn't deserve to be pissed on. Just say no, I'm playing all my own material and I got a great band and we are looking forward to seeing you! Like I said, you act like an asshole and people start to not like you and even if they might like your music they will go he's an ass and you lost someone. More if more think that way.

        You don't see seasoned pros talking shit to the fans online. You just don't do it. Use the internet for promotion and not a punching bag or psychiatrist office.
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        • Nitro Express
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Aug 2004
          • 32797

          #5
          Anyways if Wolfgang wants to have a long career in entertainment he's got a lot to learn. Right now he's riding on his last name, sympathy for his dad's death, curiosity, and the death of the Foo Fighter drummer and being asked to be at the tribute concerts. Yeah he plays pretty good and his songs aren't bad and he's out doing something instead of sitting home depressed and angry. I give him credit for that but the guy just doesn't have the rocket sauce to get away with having a big ego and teasing people. You've got to be pretty damn talented and mesmerizing to treat people like shit and get away with it. Wolf isn't that good.
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          • Nitro Express
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 32797

            #6
            Wolfgang is no Eddie Van Halen and he's no David Lee Roth. Far from it.
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            • Nitro Express
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 32797

              #7
              I think a lot of fans are saying hey fatso, you ain't your dad, cool the attitude.
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              • Nitro Express
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 32797

                #8
                Originally posted by Terry
                I suppose it's easy when thinking of the monetary reward that from a non-famous standpoint I couldn't imagine not ever being publicly gracious toward the fans.

                Then again, maybe it'd be all too easy the longer one is famous to take the fans for granted.

                Wolfgang at times gives off an attitude of someone who has lived an entitled existence all his life, possibly because he literally HAS had such an existence all his life. It doesn't seem that he's had to really work for anything in terms of starting from nothing. His fame and his money being bequeathed to him by the fact of his lineage.

                Being the kid of Eddie Van Halen got his feet in the door. Doubtless a percentage of VH fans will have an interest in what he does musically going forward. Probably would be a smart move to just refrain from engaging with rude comments directed toward him on social media, but he's free to go down that rabbit hole. I can't see how doing so is going to help him in terms of his career going forward, although maybe trolling fans online and playing VH tunes will pretty much be his career going forward...kinda seems to be shaping up that way.

                Maybe he should go the Janie Hendrix route. At least that might result in getting some of whatever unreleased Van Halen stuff exists out there.
                Ah Wolf is just like the little emperors in China. Due to the one child policy the parents spoil their only child and they are brats and there aren't any women for them because the girls got aborted. it's a fucked up situation. Them rich Chinese kids in Shanghai are the worst.
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                • Nitro Express
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32797

                  #9
                  I think Wolfgang has already hit his climax. Nobody is going to care about the guy five years from now. Unless he does something cool with the EVH brand or in music worthy of attention, nobody is going to care. He doesn't need a career. He's inherited a fortune.
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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32797

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
                    At least he's honest. But though I don't know who he was addressing (maybe a true cunt), it really smells of contempt.

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                    It's contempt. He loves to tease and piss.
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                    • Terry
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 11957

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nitro Express
                      I think Wolfgang has already hit his climax. Nobody is going to care about the guy five years from now. Unless he does something cool with the EVH brand or in music worthy of attention, nobody is going to care. He doesn't need a career. He's inherited a fortune.
                      For me, the only real interest I have concerning him is if he gives his stamp of approval or signs off on releasing old Van Halen audio/video, or if he is instrumental in getting some sort of 'box set' with rarities released. Be it in a downloaded form or whatever. And even THAT interest has been waning for me over the years...I've become more and more used to the idea that such a release won't happen, and from that have learned by necessity to be content with my own audio/video boots, the entire content of which is probably available online somewhere - Youtube - in terms of the live audio and video boots I do have.

                      I mean, I don't know how interested I'm supposed to be watching anybody playing Eddie's licks other than Eddie. Seeing Wolfgang play those VH tunes live with Grohl didn't really mean anything to me. It certainly didn't mean something more to me than seeing a non-celeb play Eddie's licks in a guitar store or online. I dunno...maybe for others it is more meaningful or is a meaningful thing...or a meaningful tribute from Wolfgang to his father, and I suppose I can understand why someone else might feel that way about it. On a basic level of human decency or empathy, I wouldn't doubt for a moment that Wolfgang and his father were very close and it was a painful experience to see his father waste away like he did...and playing his father's music live again with Grohl was an upbeat experience for him.

                      As a fan, I have no expectations of Van Halen going forward. Not even a box set release. And, you know, it's all good. Even if Wolfgang relaunched Van Halen with him on guitar, fine with me.
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                      • silverfish
                        Foot Soldier
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 547

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nitro Express
                        Anyways if Wolfgang wants to have a long career in entertainment he's got a lot to learn. Right now
                        he's riding on his last name, sympathy for his dad's death, curiosity,and the death of the Foo Fighter
                        drummer and being asked to be at the tribute concerts. Yeah he plays pretty good and his songs
                        aren't bad and he's out doing something instead of sitting home depressed and angry.
                        Yeah, rock really isn't where it's at right now, playlist-wise. He'll have to come out with some really
                        exceptional sounding material to make a dent in listeners ears. He can only ride the VH name for
                        so long until the shine is off that diamond. I've not listened/watched any of his solo MVH stuff so I
                        can't comment on his performances but I've not seen much press (or comments here) to suggest
                        that he's got serious chops to go the distance.

                        Maybe he does. Or maybe he's done in 5 years (as Nitro says.) I think that's probably the more
                        likely scenario. Unless he cobbles together some VH-related act which will probably not go over
                        so well.
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                        • MasonL
                          Groupie
                          • May 2022
                          • 66

                          #13
                          Wolf needs to get off social media. It's that simple. Focus on your music. It took what, over six years to finally get one album out? I understand he's playing all the instruments or whatever, but still. While saying he's riding his dad's coattails might be a little shortsighted, there's a lot of truth to it. The guy has gained weight exponentially since 2015 and hasn't put out much. That comes from being raised in a mansion since the day you're born and not having to earn a single thing in life. Ed and Dave in the early days had to eat and pay their rent. Just a totally different approach to the music. This is the case for the vast majority of musicians nowadays, in fact. It's an artsy-fartsy hobby, not a job anymore.

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32797

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Terry
                            For me, the only real interest I have concerning him is if he gives his stamp of approval or signs off on releasing old Van Halen audio/video, or if he is instrumental in getting some sort of 'box set' with rarities released. Be it in a downloaded form or whatever. And even THAT interest has been waning for me over the years...I've become more and more used to the idea that such a release won't happen, and from that have learned by necessity to be content with my own audio/video boots, the entire content of which is probably available online somewhere - Youtube - in terms of the live audio and video boots I do have.

                            I mean, I don't know how interested I'm supposed to be watching anybody playing Eddie's licks other than Eddie. Seeing Wolfgang play those VH tunes live with Grohl didn't really mean anything to me. It certainly didn't mean something more to me than seeing a non-celeb play Eddie's licks in a guitar store or online. I dunno...maybe for others it is more meaningful or is a meaningful thing...or a meaningful tribute from Wolfgang to his father, and I suppose I can understand why someone else might feel that way about it. On a basic level of human decency or empathy, I wouldn't doubt for a moment that Wolfgang and his father were very close and it was a painful experience to see his father waste away like he did...and playing his father's music live again with Grohl was an upbeat experience for him.

                            As a fan, I have no expectations of Van Halen going forward. Not even a box set release. And, you know, it's all good. Even if Wolfgang relaunched Van Halen with him on guitar, fine with me.
                            I think the guy who holds the reins on Van Halen is Alex. I’m not even sure if Wolfgang legally was a member of the band, he could have been an employee on the band. I think Wolfie did say his uncle was the head of the Van Halen franchise. Ed said the best stuff went out and there’s a ton of bootlegs. I heard a VH cover the other day I hadn’t heard before. I think we’ve seen or heard most of it. I don’t think there are a bunch of gems hidden in a vault somewhere. I don’t think that stash of tapes at 5150 would be all that interesting. Probably hours on hours of Ed noodling.
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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32797

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MasonL
                              Wolf needs to get off social media. It's that simple. Focus on your music. It took what, over six years to finally get one album out? I understand he's playing all the instruments or whatever, but still. While saying he's riding his dad's coattails might be a little shortsighted, there's a lot of truth to it. The guy has gained weight exponentially since 2015 and hasn't put out much. That comes from being raised in a mansion since the day you're born and not having to earn a single thing in life. Ed and Dave in the early days had to eat and pay their rent. Just a totally different approach to the music. This is the case for the vast majority of musicians nowadays, in fact. It's an artsy-fartsy hobby, not a job anymore.
                              Agreed. His posts made me cringe big time.
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