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    ADKOT no longer in Spotify?

    Seems like ADKOT is no longer available in Spotify or other streaming services. At least it doesn't show up when I try to search it in Spotify, Tidal or Qobuz. And latest release in albums category is VH III.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silexxx View Post
    Seems like ADKOT is no longer available in Spotify or other streaming services. At least it doesn't show up when I try to search it in Spotify, Tidal or Qobuz. And latest release in albums category is VH III.
    Wow. You're right.

    I'm on Apple Music and I had ADKOT added and downloaded to my library a while ago and now the songs aren't there anymore.
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    Pandora has ADKOT listed as "unavailable". But the "Live In Tokyo" album is still there. My guess is that it's a record label issue, since WB released the live album, but ADKOT was the one and only Van Halen record on another label, Interscope/UMG.

    Maybe UMG has dropped the album, since it's now 10 years old, and whatever contract the band may have signed at the time, they won't be making any more albums for obvious reasons. If this is the case, WB should pick up the rights to the album, since they have all the others... including the live record with some of the ADKOT songs on it.
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    Yeah that's probably it. Hopefully WB will pick it up. What they should do is re-release it with a better mix. The sound on the album is real muddy. But I don't think they will do that.

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    Oddly enough, YouTube seems to have pulled the official videos for "Tattoo" and "She's The Woman", so there's definitely some corporate issues going on here with anything ADKOT related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silexxx View Post
    Yeah that's probably it. Hopefully WB will pick it up. What they should do is re-release it with a better mix. The sound on the album is real muddy. But I don't think they will do that.
    A re release by WB would be a great idea. They can bill it as the final recorded album with Eddie Van Halen. Add in a new mix and maybe demo versions in a new package and it could actually boost sales of the album itself.

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    Kids these days... go buy the damn CD, make a digital copy, play it anywhere, and also help fund Alex and Wolfgang's grandkids college fund...

    Amazon... $12.28 https://www.amazon.com/Different-Kin...15197940&psc=1

    Walmart... $19.84 https://www.walmart.com/ip/A-Differe...53e0&gclsrc=ds

    For your cheap ass penny pinchers... Ebay $5.00 https://www.ebay.com/itm/23464375597...4e443683bfedf4
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Kids these days... go buy the damn CD, make a digital copy, play it anywhere, and also help fund Alex, Mike and Wolfgang's grandkids college fund...

    Amazon... $12.28 https://www.amazon.com/Different-Kin...15197940&psc=1

    Walmart... $19.84 https://www.walmart.com/ip/A-Differe...53e0&gclsrc=ds

    For your cheap ass penny pinchers... Ebay $5.00 https://www.ebay.com/itm/23464375597...4e443683bfedf4
    Mike?

    How does he make anything off an album he had nothing to do with?

    He barely makes much on the CVH catalog and with Van Hagar never seen re-releases, he doesn't make anything off of that either.

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    Fixed it for ya Vinnie... good catch!

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    Mike made something, because he's got a pretty substantial net worth. He didn't get that from playing clubs with Clichegar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Mike made something, because he's got a pretty substantial net worth. He didn't get that from playing clubs with Clichegar.
    He might have made some good investments with his money. If you bought California real estate in the 80’s and sold before things slowed down, just with that you got a good return on investment.
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    Sammy Hagar made more money off his business enterprises than he did in music. Sam is actually a pretty good business person. He saw the need for a travel agency that understood what traveling acts on the road needed. He started one years ago and it’s the big agency a lot of road acts use. He’s made a fortune just with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    He might have made some good investments with his money. If you bought California real estate in the 80’s and sold before things slowed down, just with that you got a good return on investment.
    Mike is worth like $70 million. He didn't get that by selling his house.

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    He got by Roth suggesting they just split the writing royalties 4 ways...
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    Mike only signed away his rights to the Van Halen name, logos and trademarks... He did not sign away his song writing and royalty rights.

    Reality is... he has more royalty potential and current income stream than Roth due to his stake in the whole Van Halen catalog through Van Halen III. Roth only has the 6-Pack, Best of and ADKOT era royalty streams. Mike even has the improved royalty rates that were negotiated during the Hagar era that Roth sued Van Halen over and dropped his suit from 2002.

    Whatever credits Roth's legal representation posted with the Cover Band™ material to get these up on Spotify, etc... can't legally exclude Michael Anthony from his song-writing and royalty claims if any revenue were to be generated by those recordings.

    Mike and his estate when he passes will be collecting royalty payments for majority of the Van Halen catalog for a long, long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Mike only signed away his rights to the Van Halen name, logos and trademarks... He did not sign away his song writing and royalty rights.

    Reality is... he has more royalty potential and current income stream than Roth due to his stake in the whole Van Halen catalog through Van Halen III. Roth only has the 6-Pack, Best of and ADKOT era royalty streams. Mike even has the improved royalty rates that were negotiated during the Hagar era that Roth sued Van Halen over and dropped his suit from 2002.

    Whatever credits Roth's legal representation posted with the Cover Band™ material to get these up on Spotify, etc... can't legally exclude Michael Anthony from his song-writing and royalty claims if any revenue were to be generated by those recordings.

    Mike and his estate when he passes will be collecting royalty payments for majority of the Van Halen catalog for a long, long time.
    Fuck Bass Player.

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    https://blabbermouth.net/news/wolfga...-kind-of-truth

    During an appearance on yesterday's (Friday, October 27) episode of SiriusXM's "Trunk Nation With Eddie Trunk", Wolfgang Van Halen, who became VAN HALEN's bassist in 2006 at the age of 15, was asked if he knows why 2012's "A Different Kind Of Truth", the sole VAN HALEN studio album he played on, is no longer available on any of the streaming music services. He responded (as transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET): "Yes. The contract ran out on putting it up on streaming services. So we've been working on getting it back, but there are some people involved who do not like that record and are not making it easy to get it back up." Asked if these "people" that are preventing it from going back on the streaming services "were involved in the record," Wolfgang replied: "Yeah." When host Eddie Trunk asked, "Might that person commonly be known by three initials?", apparently referring to VAN HALEN singer David Lee Roth, Wolfgang hesitated for a second before replying: "Probably. I mean, yeah, you can put it together. I hate to say it, because people will think I'm making stuff up, but it's, like, man, I'd love to have the record back up there, but he doesn't like it and he's not working with us to get it back up there. So I hope people who like it have a physical version of it. [Laughs]"

    Wolfie blames Dave. In last episode of DLR Cast they talked about why DLR Band is not available for streaming and the reason they had heard was also that Dave didn't like that album either.
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    Wolfgang and Eddie Trunk.

    A conversation between two people I could be less interested in hearing I couldn't imagine.
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    That dumb fat fuck Trunk failing to realize everyone in the band is a "person commonly be known by three initials?"

    I hope Dave doesn't not like the album though. The Tokyo thing I would maybe understand more.

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    Maybe Dave has such a hearing problem that he can listen to his vocals on the Tokyo Dome live without turning a hair, but can't bear ADKoT?

    And would he dislike the DLR Band album?

    Both records are fucking great. It's all very hard to believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Mike is worth like $70 million. He didn't get that by selling his house.
    Who knows what Mike is really worth. It’s obvious he made enough to live on the marina in Newport Beach and own a few expensive cars. He’s all part of the Sammy Cheese Wiz Party now. Lame as fuck. You do the stiff Cabo Wabo walk because your ass hurts from the gay orgy the night before. Love came walking in with no lube.

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    I’m reading Tonechaser and as early as 1981 Eddie was venting frustration that Mike was not doing anything to help create new songs for Van Halen but was getting equal pay. Ed was feeling the stress of having to come up with new stuff. He had Al to show things to and Al had structural ideas. Dave wrote the lyrics and would help shape the songs more. Mike did nothing other than play. He was not a composer.

    Ted Templeman tried to convince VH not to have every member paid equally because it turns into a money fight later but VH did’t want to change their pay structure.

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    Dave is really out there and he’s become very eccentric and delusional. He’s grandpa who thinks he still can drive his fast car on the twisting mountain roads. The reality is he can’t. The keys have been taken away. Grandpa is in the public TV room at the assisted living center telling all the other old folks what hot shit he used to be and the female assistants are careful not to get too close because grandpa will give their ass a feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    That dumb fat fuck Trunk failing to realize everyone in the band is a "person commonly be known by three initials?"

    I hope Dave doesn't not like the album though. The Tokyo thing I would maybe understand more.
    I think its total BS saying Dave doesn't like the ADKOT album.

    Sure we all know he would've preferred Mike on it which is why he didn't want Wolf and Ed to record background vox. But that doesn't mean he wants it now pulled from streaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    That dumb fat fuck Trunk failing to realize everyone in the band is a "person commonly be known by three initials?"

    I hope Dave doesn't not like the album though. The Tokyo thing I would maybe understand more.
    When I read this... the clever "3 initial person" doesn't like the album... Sounds like utter childish bullshit to me!!

    First off, why would there be any consideration to avoid naming names? There's Alex Van Halen who has the primary management rights to all of the Van Halen catalog of music/video recordings with Wolfgang having an interest, plus a vote representing Edward's interests. That leaves David Lee Roth and whatever contractual rights he holds from the deal with the ADKOT album. Ya figure the band might breakup if he says Dave doesn't want to sign off on the deal? WTF?

    Given that Wolfgang barely finished middle school before being thrown into a major rock band touring with 3 old farts... I doubt he learned a whole lot about corporate law, LLC's, music publishing, distribution, royalties, etc... Did the kid even finish high school or get a GED?

    I suspect there was something in the legal terms with the streaming distribution contracts that Dave and his IP attorney didn't like... nothing to do with not liking the content of the music. The truth is not that complicated nor "different"...

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    Wolf interviewed by Trunk.

    Two stupid fat fucks.

    All they needed was Sam to complete the trifecta of idiots.

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    Wolf insinuating again that Dave is the problem.....the road block to some stupid tribute and now the reason ADKOT was pulled from streaming services.

    When in reality it could very well mean his own uncle. But hey, much easier to throw Dave under the bus than Alex who controls the majority of VH interests.

    I doubt fatty really knows how music publishing or licensing works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    I suspect there was something in the legal terms with the streaming distribution contracts that Dave and his IP attorney didn't like... nothing to do with not liking the content of the music. The truth is not that complicated nor "different"...
    Could be that the streaming services don't pay shit.
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    It's obviously not as simple as Fatty says it is: "he doesn't like it so he's blocking it." I'd be surprised if Roth has even talked to Wolf since the 2015 tour ended. I think he liked playing with him during the three tours but always wanted Anthony in there. He didn't really respect that there's this kid who's been handed everything he's ever had and didn't earn his way onto the stage. Remember, despite what half-wit fans say, DLR is the self-made musician. The Brothers were the kids who grew up with a musician father and forced to learn the piano. DLR was completely on his own.

    There's probably some weird business reason why it's not up anymore. Something with royalties. DLR's gotten nostalgic about the "good old days" and how they used to do music since Ed died so he looks at 2011/2012 like it pales in comparison. Glad I have my physical copy because it's a damn good record.
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    Suckify is dying and bleeding money. What is it now/ $11/m for cruddy 96kbps outdated MP3s? BUY you own music and tell these corporate cunts to go fuck themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasonL View Post
    It's obviously not as simple as Fatty says it is: "he doesn't like it so he's blocking it." I'd be surprised if Roth has even talked to Wolf since the 2015 tour ended. I think he liked playing with him during the three tours but always wanted Anthony in there. He didn't really respect that there's this kid who's been handed everything he's ever had and didn't earn his way onto the stage. Remember, despite what half-wit fans say, DLR is the self-made musician. The Brothers were the kids who grew up with a musician father and forced to learn the piano. DLR was completely on his own.

    There's probably some weird business reason why it's not up anymore. Something with royalties. DLR's gotten nostalgic about the "good old days" and how they used to do music since Ed died so he looks at 2011/2012 like it pales in comparison. Glad I have my physical copy because it's a damn good record.
    I have it on vinyl and I still love it.

    We would all prefer Mike to have been on there but we got what we got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    Wolf insinuating again that Dave is the problem.....the road block to some stupid tribute and now the reason ADKOT was pulled from streaming services.

    When in reality it could very well mean his own uncle. But hey, much easier to throw Dave under the bus than Alex who controls the majority of VH interests.

    I doubt fatty really knows how music publishing or licensing works.
    Or maybe Tubby did a 'deep dive' and watched a 5-minute YouTube video on the subject and now considers himself an expert.

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    Dave wouldn’t stick with a project he didn’t like. Dave said some of the lyrics for ADKT were penned when he was an EMT riding the fire engine in NYC. Look at the album cover. That’s all Dave.

    Wolfgang is full of shit. I notice he’s back on social media slagging VH fans. He seems quite angry and he just got married. Wolf is not a happy guy. He’s a spoiled brat. Boo Hoo Hoo! Wolf. Some people are working three shitty jobs right now trying to survive. We are tired of hearing you cry. Wolf hates us fans. He hates the VH legacy even if it financed his cushy life. The Bozo is going to eat himself to death. Interest in his band will wain, Wolf will get fatter and Mrs. Wolf Van Halen will inherit the assets after miserable Wolf dies young. How’s your blood sugar count and blood pressure Wolf? I suggest you stay out of hot tubs.
    Last edited by Nitro Express; 10-30-2023 at 04:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Suckify is dying and bleeding money. What is it now/ $11/m for cruddy 96kbps outdated MP3s? BUY you own music and tell these corporate cunts to go fuck themselves

    Bravo! I hate streaming. I mostly listen to music I bought.

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    If an artist or an act gives me pleasure I have no problem paying them for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    Wolf interviewed by Trunk.

    Two stupid fat fucks.

    All they needed was Sam to complete the trifecta of idiots.
    Sauce Sowboleski Bass Payer would suck all their dicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Dave wouldn’t stick with a project he didn’t like. Dave said some of the lyrics for ADKT were penned when he was an EMT riding the fire engine in NYC. Look at the album cover. That’s all Dave.

    Wolfgang is full of shit. I notice he’s back on social media slagging VH fans. He seems quite angry and he just got married. Wolf is not a happy guy. He’s a spoiled brat. Boo Hoo Hoo! Wolf. Some people are working three shitty jobs right now trying to survive. We are tired of hearing you cry. Wolf hates us fans. He hates the VH legacy even if it financed his cushy life. The Bozo is going to eat himself to death. Interest in his band will wain, Wolf will get fatter and Mrs. Wolf Van Halen will inherit the assets after miserable Wolf dies young. How’s your blood sugar count and blood pressure Wolf? I suggest you stay out of hot tubs.
    He has nothing to be angry about.

    He's a fucking fat slob who is sitting on his Dad's fortune not to mention marrying a girl he would have no business even getting 6 feet close to had his name not been Van Halen.

    Slam that prime snatch Fatty and STFU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    Wolf interviewed by Trunk.

    Two stupid fat fucks.

    All they needed was Sam to complete the trifecta of idiots.
    Sauce Sowboleski Bass Payer would suck all their dicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    He has nothing to be angry about.

    He's a fucking fat slob who is sitting on his Dad's fortune not to mention marrying a girl he would have no business even getting 6 feet close to had his name not been Van Halen.

    Slam that prime snatch Fatty and STFU.
    Awwww but dad died. Some lose their dad and get stuck with medical bills and other liabilities and have to pay it off over time with interest and fees. Not only did dad die, you got nothing but his debts. Cry us a river Wolf. Oh and be sure to tell us how stupid we are just because we liked your dad’s band. Yeah life is a bitch, you seem to understand that more than anybody. Ha! Ha!

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    Now Wolf is crying the paparazzi payed off people in the hospital where his dad died and he could only mourn for 30 minutes. What the hell? Well at least he’s blaming TMZ this time and not Van Halen fans.

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