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    **Official 2022 Mid-Term Elections Thread"

    For your live streams tonight... TYT is late due to freak storms in SoCal, but they finally seem to be up and running...

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    So far all I've seen is that our 105 year old governor will be re-elected. Polls closed 20 minutes ago. Dems have run shit candidates the last two elections.
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    Ryan is up in my county just based on early voting.

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    County flipped to Vance. Looks like he's leading statewide too
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    TYT just said Vance was up by 5 points. It's not over yet, but that's discouraging....

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    Vance was down 12 points around a half hour after polls closed. He won my county by almost 10 points.
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    Beto loses. Maybe we won't have to hear from him any more.

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    You would think that Texas would be tired of being governed by morons since 1994. Guess not?

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    Sarah Huckabeast got her daddy's old job as governor of Arkansas.

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    The Guardian says the WA Senate race has been called for Patty Murray. Thank God... she's hardly my favorite, but her opponent Tiffy Smiley was another single digit IQ Trumpbot comparable to Margie Traitor Green or Gun Nut Barbie Bobert.

    Ron Wyden also projected to win in Oregon, and Alex Padilla who replaced Scamala Harris in CA also projected to win. So the West Coast keeps all of their (theoretically) Democratic senators.

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    NBC News has called PA for Fetterman!!

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    Who knew Dave Roth was running for Senate in Idaho??

    Unfortunately he lost to Mike Crapo. Because it's Idaho, of course.

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    Everyone had some wins so everyone seems content. Zzzzz. Now back to inflation and war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Who knew Dave Roth was running for Senate in Idaho??

    Unfortunately he lost to Mike Crapo. Because it's Idaho, of course.
    Roth was beat by Crap? Yeah. True. Roth had a good gig and then Sammy Hagar got it.

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    Democrats - 48
    Republicans - 47

    There are 4 states that have not been officially called yet.

    Nevada - 28.9% Reported
    Laxalt (R) - 48.6
    Cortez Masto (D) 48.5.

    Arizona - 37.9% Reported
    Kelly (D) - 52.4
    Masters (R) 45.5

    Wisconsin - 99% Reported
    Johnson (R) - 50.6
    Barnes (D) - 49.4

    Georgia - 99.5% Reported
    Warnock (D) - 49.4
    Walker (R) - 48.5
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    FORD's Prediction: Nevada may be slightly down at the moment, but I think it's going to flip when the Vegas numbers come in. I also expect Kelly's lead to hold in AZ. Wisconsin is a painfully thin margin, but given all the Koch machination of that state in recent years, I wouldn't be surprised if Johnson skates by with a razor thin number.

    Which brings us down to a Georgia runoff. Again. Hard to believe that you need to beat a brain damaged idiot like Herschel Walker TWICE just to shut him up.

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    House currently sits at 172 Democrats & 199 Republicans, with a whole lot of districts not officially called yet, but some of them will be obvious enough... for example here in Washington, I expect the Dems to hold all of the seats they had previously, and pick up the third district (where a MAGAtt beat the "moderate" Republican in the primary). The Republicans will hold the two districts in Eastern WA that have been theirs forever. Not exactly a shock there.

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    Apparently Cheeto blames Melania for picking Oz as a Senate candidate for PA, so it's all her fault he lost

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    A furious Donald Trump spent the morning after the midterm elections lashing out at those he believes gave him bad advice as several of the candidates he endorsed in pivotal races came up short.

    Mr Trump is reportedly blaming his wife Melania Trump for advising him to back Mehmet Oz in the Pennsylvania senate race.

    Dr Oz has called Democrat John Fetterman to concede the race.

    “Trump is indeed furious this morning, particularly about Mehmet Oz, and is blaming everyone who advised him to back Oz, including his wife, describing it as not her best decision, according to people close to him,” Maggie Haberman of The New York Times tweeted on Wednesday morning.

    An adviser to the former president told CNN that “Trump is livid” and “screaming at everyone” after the Republicans did worse than expected.

    Jim Acosta tweeted that the adviser blasted Mr Trump’s handpicked candidates.

    “They were all bad candidates,” the adviser said. “Candidates matter.”

    The adviser added that it’s unlikely that Mr Trump will delay his expected 2024 campaign announcement because “it’s too humiliating to delay”.

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    Who knew that choosing candidates based on the opinion of a mail order wife from Eastern Europe was not a brilliant strategy...?

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    Failed Politician Batshit Bachmann not happy with the election....


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    Crackhead Pillow Guy is also very upset...


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    Donald Trump said the Trumpiest thing possible about the election

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    Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
    Updated 2:39 PM EST, Wed November 9, 2022

    As votes rolled in from across the country Tuesday night, Donald Trump said something truly incredible when asked about how much credit or blame he should get for the election results.

    “I think if they win, I should get all of the credit, and if they lose, I should not be blamed at all,” Trump told NewsNation, adding: “But it will probably be just the opposite.”

    Yes, he really said that. And, no, he wasn’t kidding. He would, quite simply, like to have his cake and eat it, too.

    In Trump’s world, all good things are the direct result of his action while all bad things are definitely someone else’s fault. He is forever telling himself a story in which he is the forever hero – fighting off the losers and the haters who are dragging him down.

    Case in point, this tweet from Maggie Haberman of the New York Times:

    “Trump is indeed furious this morning, particularly about Mehmet Oz, and is blaming everyone who advised him to back Oz – including his wife, describing it as not her best decision, according to people close to him.”

    It was his wife’s fault!

    The data tell a different story.

    Trump was viewed favorably by just 39% of voters, according to the exit polling, while 58% saw him in an unfavorable light. Those numbers put him below Joe Biden (41% favorable/56% unfavorable).

    And there are other numbers in the exit polling that suggest Trump was a drag on Republican candidates. Almost 1 in 3 (28%) of voters said that there vote was to send a message of opposition to the former president – and they voted 90%-8% for Democrats in the House. Just 16% said their vote was a way to support Trump,

    Aside from the exit poll numbers, there’s evidence of Donald Trump’s fingerprints all over this election – and not in a good way. He endorsed candidates in gubernatorial races in Pennsylvania, Maryland, Illinois and Michigan who all lost convincingly as they struggled to develop a winning general election message. (In the Arizona governor’s race, election denier – and Trump endorsee – Kari Lake trails although there is still a significant number of ballots left to count.....

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    What's funny about Oz is Oprah promoted him on her show and she loved the guy until he ran for office and then she was after his ass. Both candidates were not the best in that race. But why not send a guy who's fucked from a stroke to Washington? Not many brain cells left in the place anyways.

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    My take on the mid-terms... contrary to Democratic party proclamations, democracy didn't die in the election. Actually proved it's quite alive and well within the republic. It was a stupid claim that democracy was ever in threat... dumbasses.

    Despite a lot of misplaced optimism... both major parties failed to get the right messaging to move the needle significantly in either direction. What is crystal clear is, the nation remains fairly evenly divided with a lot of complexity within the division that neither party seems to have a handle on.

    The contrast between major population centers and the rest of the nation is most interesting. I'm watching Florida though, as one area the made a major shift and it broke it's swing-state status which had been present for decades. The contrast in Florida between large population areas and rural pretty much evaporated. Plus the shift with Hispanics is noteworthy and something I see the Republicans continuing to make gains in...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    My take on the mid-terms... contrary to Democratic party proclamations, democracy didn't die in the election.
    Who said that and when?

    Actually proved it's quite alive and well within the republic. It was a stupid claim that democracy was ever in threat... dumbasses.
    It very much is under threat. You have armed shitheads performing active voter intimidation, election deniers (always losing in courts) and there were attempts to infiltrate biased partisans into the voter counting. Already on top of transparent and obviously biased voter ID laws and gerrymandering cutting out huge swaths of rural centers around urban ones. I do think that a sitting president calling a state governor and asking him to "find votes" is a threat...

    I hear it often with older white people saying that "we" are becoming the minority and inferring that maybe we don't really need a vote to decide things...

    Despite a lot of misplaced optimism... both major parties failed to get the right messaging to move the needle significantly in either direction. What is crystal clear is, the nation remains fairly evenly divided with a lot of complexity within the division that neither party seems to have a handle on.

    The contrast between major population centers and the rest of the nation is most interesting. I'm watching Florida though, as one area the made a major shift and it broke it's swing-state status which had been present for decades. The contrast in Florida between large population areas and rural pretty much evaporated. Plus the shift with Hispanics is noteworthy and something I see the Republicans continuing to make gains in...
    Okay, and the emergence of the urban educated white vote turning Blue, states that were perma-Red becoming swing ones like GA and AZ.

    A lot of the divide is sheer ignorance. The substantive issues like Roe vs. Wade the messaging was pretty clear. But it's hard to trust the GOP to fix anything like the economy or inflation. I never heard a single substantive plan other than, wait for it! LOWER TAXES!!! Durka durr!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Who said that and when?
    President Biden a week ago...





    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    It very much is under threat. You have armed shitheads performing active voter intimidation, election deniers (always losing in courts) and there were attempts to infiltrate biased partisans into the voter counting. Already on top of transparent and obviously biased voter ID laws and gerrymandering cutting out huge swaths of rural centers around urban ones. I do think that a sitting president calling a state governor and asking him to "find votes" is a threat...

    I hear it often with older white people saying that "we" are becoming the minority and inferring that maybe we don't really need a vote to decide things...
    It's not 2020 anymore... try to catch up!



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    Okay, and the emergence of the urban educated white vote turning Blue, states that were perma-Red becoming swing ones like GA and AZ.

    A lot of the divide is sheer ignorance. The substantive issues like Roe vs. Wade the messaging was pretty clear. But it's hard to trust the GOP to fix anything like the economy or inflation. I never heard a single substantive plan other than, wait for it! LOWER TAXES!!! Durka durr!
    Abortion appears to be primarily a hot issue among women... but if you pay attention several states enacted legislation supporting abortion rights. So it appears shifting that to the states to legislate is getting the desired effect.

    As I stated, the complexity of the issues dividing the nation is presenting a problem for both parties... taxes were not a major issue for most demographics, along with abortions and threats to democracy. Inflation, crime and immigration were the top issues. Neither party offered any compelling vision, solutions or answers to what most Americans are concerned about.

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    The abortion issue is really about more than abortion, of course. Overturning Roe v Wade was just the latest example of an extremist right wing Supreme Court which has been out of control since December 12, 2000 (if not before) And while abortion could technically be decided on a state by state basis, a runaway federal judicial system certainly cannot be.

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    My take on the mid-terms... contrary to Democratic party proclamations, democracy didn't die in the election. Actually proved it's quite alive and well within the republic. It was a stupid claim that democracy was ever in threat... dumbasses.

    Despite a lot of misplaced optimism... both major parties failed to get the right messaging to move the needle significantly in either direction. What is crystal clear is, the nation remains fairly evenly divided with a lot of complexity within the division that neither party seems to have a handle on.

    The contrast between major population centers and the rest of the nation is most interesting. I'm watching Florida though, as one area the made a major shift and it broke it's swing-state status which had been present for decades. The contrast in Florida between large population areas and rural pretty much evaporated. Plus the shift with Hispanics is noteworthy and something I see the Republicans continuing to make gains in...
    Both sides had their wins. Florida probably will become the economic powerhouse of the US. It’s very business friendly. California has dropped the ball. Who decides who’s in power is the middle because a partisan Republican and a Partisan Democrat will never vote for the other side and all the political noise you hear comes from the partisan echo chambers. As far as civil war and all that bullshit goes it’s partisan banter. We had the election, it went pretty well. One side will continue to blame the other side but what’s new.

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    The system still works. Nobody has absolute power. We are not a dictatorship. Life goes on.

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    Mark Kelly wins re-election in Arizona Senate race, pulling far ahead of Blake Masters
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    U.S. Sen. Mark Kelly has won re-election, with the Democratic incumbent widening his lead over Republican challenger Blake Masters as votes continue to be counted in the Arizona Senate race, the Tucson Sentinel projects.

    While there are still more than 500,000 ballots yet to be tabulated across the state, Kelly's vote total is far enough ahead that the GOP candidate will not be able to take the lead, a Sentinel analysis indicates. An update of 79,000 votes from Maricopa County on Thursday evening had a 56-43 split for Kelly, putting the election well out of reach for Masters.

    The win means the Democrats are one step closer to retaining control of the Senate, after one of the most expensive campaigns in the country. Nearly $200 million poured into campaign coffers or was spent by outside interest groups on the race.

    As new ballot totals were updated Thursday, incumbent Democrat Kelly slowly widened his lead by about 20,000 votes, picking up about 56 percent of the newly counted ballots throughout the day.

    Masters has trailed other top Republican candidates in statewide races. Thursday evening, while Democrats were leading in nearly all of the competitive top contests for state office, their Republican opponents were virtually tied.

    While a third candidate in the race, Libertarian Marc Victor, dropped out shortly before the election and endorsed Blake Masters, he still garnered about 2 percent of the vote — some 42,000 ballots, mostly in early voting.

    But that total means he's far from a spoiler in the race, with Kelly holding a 52-46 percent margin over Masters.

    Masters worked to reassure his supporters Thursday evening, before the latest Maricopa numbers were released.

    "We are seeing the last few big, pro-Dem drops," he tweeted. "Soon they’ll run out, & then there are hundreds of thousands of pro-R ballots to count. We will overtake them and win."
    Kelly 'confident' on election night

    Kelly had an 18-point lead as first large batches of early votes were reported Tuesday evening, after the polls closed across Arizona, later falling back by a point or two during the night.

    But races were still too close to call at that point, with Republicans banking on ballots cast in-person on Tuesday to make up the difference, and Kelly didn't claim victory Tuesday night.

    Speaking around 11:30 p.m. Tuesday, after hours of incremental updates in the count, Kelly stopped short of claiming a win.

    Thanking supporters at the Rialto Theatre in Downtown Tucson for their hard work, Kelly quoted the late U.S. Sen. John McCain in saying "we have so much more in common than we disagree about."

    "Now there is there is no country in the world better at solving big problems in the United States of America. We put people on the moon in the 1960s. And we’re about to do it again, by the way. And then we’ll go on to Mars. We are capable of extraordinary things when we come together and just put our minds to it. Yeah, that’s who we are. We create, we innovate. We build. That’s what we’re capable of when our leaders focus on unity rather than division," Kelly said.

    "I’ll tell you what, I’m feeling confident tonight. At the same time, it doesn’t look like we’re gonna have the final results for a little while," Kelly said.

    As more ballots were tallied Wednesday, Masters and other GOP candidates indeed chipped away at the Democrats' leads in statewide offices — with some of the other Republicans even taking narrow leads.

    But Thursday, after elections officials across the state had completed counting nearly all the in-person votes from Election Day — except for a batch of 17,000 from Maricopa County that officials had problems running through voting machines — they again tackled verifying and tallying the "late early" ballots dropped off Tuesday and the several days preceding.

    There were still more than 500,000 ballots to be counted — including 114,000 in Pima County and more than 300,000 in Maricopa County — but officials insisted they are still on schedule to complete the count.

    Pima officials said they expect to have 95% of ballots verified and sent to be counted by Monday.

    Pima County Recorder Gabriella Cázares-Kelly said Thursday that there were about 53,000 ballots yet to be verified, or otherwise "awaiting some portion of the process," and that the county had about 1,000 "problem ballots" were officials were trying to contact voters.

    "They have until the 16th at 5 p.m. to return our phone call," she said, telling reporters that the Recorder's Office attempts to contact voters who need to "cure" their ballots by phone, email and a mailed letter.

    "This is the standard amount of time that it takes; this is what it always takes," the recorder said. "We're following the law, we're following the Elections Procedures Manual," calling the pace of the ballot review "kind of phenomenal."

    Wednesday afternoon, there had been about 160,000 Pima ballots remaining to be counted.

    Constance Hargrove, Pima County's election director, said that county officials and representatives of local political parties are prepared to conduct the legally mandated hand-count audit of 2% of the votes on Saturday.
    Big money

    The race between Kelly and Masters racked up large bills, for the candidates and the outside groups carrying out "independent expenditure" campaigns for or against them.

    Kelly raised more than $81 million as of last month, with $75 million spent before Oct. 19, data from the Federal Election Commission showed.

    Masters raised just more than $12 million, spending $9.6 million as of last month.

    But outside groups spent big on the Republican.

    In support of Masters, independent expenditures totaled $10 million, but another $59 million was spent on ads and mailers opposing Kelly.

    In support of the Democrat, outside groups spent $15 million, with nearly $15 million more spent in opposition to the Republican candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    The abortion issue is really about more than abortion, of course. Overturning Roe v Wade was just the latest example of an extremist right wing Supreme Court which has been out of control since December 12, 2000 (if not before) And while abortion could technically be decided on a state by state basis, a runaway federal judicial system certainly cannot be.
    You do have to look at the issues the court created when it handed down Roe v Wade originally. That ruling imposed a burden that overrode states rights in this matter and has much deeper roots into the balance of legislative power the states held and has been returned to them with this being overturned.

    Roe v Wade created a federal overreach to begin with. This is what drove the steady stream of litigation over the decades that followed.

    This is not a technicality that the recent ruling handed to the states. It's actually a reinstatement of power. Nothing extremist about it... we are a republic of independently governed states. Keep that in mind...

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