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    Biden's Classified "Scandal"

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    Barrack Obama can rescue Joe by saying he declassified those documents but if he does that he also gets Trump off the hook because it confirms president’s can declassify. But I think this is all a setup to use the 25th Amendment to get rid of Joe. He’s a liability to the Democrat party and they want to replace him before the election in 24.

    Anyways I don’t think anyone in the FBI wants to raid Jill’s panty drawer. The Biden’s are getting the easy treatment.
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    If they were planning on getting Biden off the 2024 ticket, they would dump Scamala Harris first. Because she's got zero chance of winning... even as an "incumbent".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Barrack Obama can rescue Joe by saying he declassified those documents but if he does that he also gets Trump off the hook because it confirms president’s can declassify. But I think this is all a setup to use the 25th Amendment to get rid of Joe. He’s a liability to the Democrat party and they want to replace him before the election in 24.
    No he can't, there's a fucking process. Can presidents sell our nuclear secrets to the Russians by "declassifying with (their) minds"?

    Anyways I don’t think anyone in the FBI wants to raid Jill’s panty drawer. The Biden’s are getting the easy treatment.
    Jesus fuck, did you even watch the video before spewing ignorance? That's like saying Joe Biden was pulled over for speeding while Trump was later arrested after getting drunk and running over a teen girl and fleeing the scene and hiding his car. And then saying Biden is getting treated with kit gloves while the angry sheriffs beat down on poor Donald in a secret conspiracy. Both involved a traffic infraction. Exactly the SAME thing, right? Why use any fucking critical thinking skills when you can snort the Fox "News" Kool AIDS?...
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    It's going to become a false equivalence whataboutery thing though for all the 'normal' people that don't really spend much time on politics.

    A real PR lose the high ground fuck up by Biden.
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    This is because the president—and only the president—has what’s called “plenary” power over national security matters, including document classification and de-classification. The Supreme Court articulated what’s currently the last and best word on the subject in Navy v. Egan, 484 U.S. 518 (1988), a case examining whether a civil service board could review someone’s being denied a national security clearance, a power it came to via a congressional act.


    The Supreme Court gave an unequivocal “no,” based in part on the fact that the executive office is the final word on classification:

    The President, after all, is the "Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States." U.S.Const., Art. II, § 2. His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant. See Cafeteria Workers v. McElroy, 367 U. S. 886, 367 U. S. 890 (1961).

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    I don’t watch Faux you partisan simpleton. Anyways there’s going to be a few things happening you aren’t going to be happy about and might even find alarming. Have a nice life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    It's going to become a false equivalence whataboutery thing though for all the 'normal' people that don't really spend much time on politics.

    A real PR lose the high ground fuck up by Biden.
    Biden is toast. He’s going to be replaced. The next drama is Kamala Harris’s parent’s were non-citizens when she was born. That makes her an anchor baby. There will be a big debate whether she’s a natural born citizen or not.

    Joe nor Kamala are candidates you want in 2024. So expect all sorts of political and legal shenanigans. Why would the Republicans want to set up Joe? Him and Kamala are what you want to run against. The million dollar question is who do you run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    It's going to become a false equivalence whataboutery thing though for all the 'normal' people that don't really spend much time on politics.

    A real PR lose the high ground fuck up by Biden.
    Yup. He hasn't handled it well, but good to know that shit was locked up tight in his sweet ass 50's Corvette!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    This is because the president—and only the president—has what’s called “plenary” power over national security matters, including document classification and de-classification. The Supreme Court articulated what’s currently the last and best word on the subject in Navy v. Egan, 484 U.S. 518 (1988), a case examining whether a civil service board could review someone’s being denied a national security clearance, a power it came to via a congressional act.
    Yeah, um, NO!
    A Critical Look at Navy v. Egan
    By Steven Aftergood • November 16, 2009

    A 1988 U.S. Supreme Court decision known as Department of the Navy v. Egan has often been interpreted to support broad presidential authority over national security generally and over access to classified information in particular. Along with United States v. Reynolds, Curtiss-Wright, and a few other cases, Egan is regularly cited in support of strong, even unchecked executive authority and judicial deference to executive claims. It has become a cornerstone of national security law as practiced today.

    But the case has often been misunderstood and misrepresented, according to a new study (pdf) by Louis Fisher of the Law Library of Congress, who reviewed the development and interpretation of Egan in more than 180 judicial decisions.

    The Egan decision was prompted by a narrow statutory dispute: Did the Merit Systems Protection Board (an executive branch body) have the authority to review the revocation of a security clearance by the Navy (another executive branch body)? The court concluded that Congress had not intended to permit such review.

    But in reaching that straightforward conclusion, “various passages in Egan strayed from this central issue and created confusion and misconceptions” about the scope of executive authority and the role of the courts, wrote Dr. Fisher. Among such passages was a discussion of the President’s constitutional powers culminating in the statement that “Unless Congress specifically has provided otherwise, courts traditionally have been reluctant to intrude upon the authority of the Executive in military and national security affairs.”

    Over time, Egan came to signify the notion that courts should grant the “utmost deference” — or even absolute deference — to the executive on issues of national security. Citing Egan, one court in 1993 held that “the presumption of reviewability is entirely inapplicable in matters concerning national security.” This is an extreme view that would exclude the courts altogether from national security affairs. “Egan does not support that interpretation,” wrote Fisher. But there it is.

    In a 2002 report on leaks of classified information, Attorney General John Ashcroft cited Egan in support of the proposition that “The President has the power under the Constitution to protect national security secrets from unauthorized disclosure. This extends to defining what information constitutes a national security secret and to determining who may have access to that secret.” These statements are true except for the implication that such authority is exclusively the province of the executive. The Attorney General conspicuously neglected to note the qualification in Egan which stated “Unless Congress has specifically provided otherwise….”

    Recently, observed Fisher, some courts have presented a more nuanced reading of Egan. In proceedings such as Al-Haramain and Horn v. Huddle, courts have rebuffed executive arguments for complete deference in cases where Congress has legislated its intent into statute.

    Fundamentally, Fisher concludes, “Nothing in Egan recognizes a plenary or exclusive power on the part of the President over classified information.” See “Judicial Interpretations of Egan“ by Louis Fisher, Law Library of Congress, November 13, 2009.


    Dr. Fisher will be the luncheon speaker at a day-long conference November 18 on “The State of the State Secrets Privilege” at American University Washington College of Law.
    https://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2009/11/navy_v_egan/


    The Supreme Court gave an unequivocal “no,” based in part on the fact that the executive office is the final word on classification:

    The President, after all, is the "Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States." U.S.Const., Art. II, § 2. His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant. See Cafeteria Workers v. McElroy, 367 U. S. 886, 367 U. S. 890 (1961).
    Don't quit your day job barracks lawyer. But there is nothing in there about unilateral declassification powers for POTUS, only that dually elected he will have access. Only the most fraudulent of interpretations gives POTUS unlimited control over state secrets. But there are things he is not told when it comes to SAP's...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I don’t watch Faux you partisan simpleton. Anyways there’s going to be a few things happening you aren’t going to be happy about and might even find alarming. Have a nice life.
    No. You just somehow regurgitate their mindless talking points. You seem to be far more alarmed that anything, snowflake...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Biden is toast. He’s going to be replaced. The next drama is Kamala Harris’s parent’s were non-citizens when she was born. That makes her an anchor baby. There will be a big debate whether she’s a natural born citizen or not.

    Joe nor Kamala are candidates you want in 2024. So expect all sorts of political and legal shenanigans. Why would the Republicans want to set up Joe? Him and Kamala are what you want to run against. The million dollar question is who do you run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Yup. He hasn't handled it well, but good to know that shit was locked up tight in his sweet ass 50's Corvette!
    Don't ever post a large picture of the Bidet faggit ever again, Nickdlibtard. Especially a shitty photoshopped one.

    He should be in jail for those documents. I would say he should be executed, but we all know he's already brain dead. Much like Nickdementia.

    It's a 60's piece of shit Corvette. But I wouldn't expect you to know anything about a classic car, even though it is a chic car. Not a chic magnet, a chic car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Don't ever post a large picture of the Bidet faggit ever again, Nickdlibtard. Especially a shitty photoshopped one.
    Sorry, really I'm sorry.

    Didn't mean to give you a massive (minor) erection...

    He should be in jail for those documents. I would say he should be executed, but we all know he's already brain dead. Much like Nickdementia.
    Okay Trump balllicking sheep idiot...


    It's a 60's piece of shit Corvette. But I wouldn't expect you to know anything about a classic car, even though it is a chic car. Not a chic magnet, a chic car.
    ALL 60's cars were sort of shit by any standard, but tell me your favorite...

    Chic? Kay bud...
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    For Von.

    Still less gay than his Douchebuggery...

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    God, what an awful car! Too bad he stashed all the Top Secret NOFORN SAP Limited Dissemination UFO docs in the glove compartment!

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    Look at Nickdnevergetslaid and his infatuation with old men. If they ever seize his computer they will find nothing but old man porn and child porn on it. I guess he's covering both ends of the spectrum.

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    This thing with Biden's handling/possession of Classified documents is really quite odd and questionable as to how the series of discovery and handling have been performed and by whom... Still unclear why a special counsel was appointed and what they are investigating. What details are not being disclosed based on the DOJ handling..?

    Many in the media want to draw correlations to Trump's classified document issues... but I don't see a whole lot of similarities other than the common element involving mishandling of classified documents. But the how's, where's and why's are significantly different... not to mention the rules/regulations involving POTUS and Vice-POTUS also differ greatly.
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    Garland probably appointed the special counsel just to get it away from the delusional MAGAtt wing of Congress, who would love to waste the next two years on pointless witch hunts like this. The special counsel will look into it, find nothing worth pursuing further, and hopefully that will be the end of it....

    Ah who the fuck am I kidding?? These idiots are still delusionally whining about "Benghazi" and what some blind guy couldn't see on Hunter Biden's laptop. They'll pretend like this is still equal to what Trump did even after the special counsel (who is a Republican) tells them otherwise.

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    I still don't see why appoint a special counsel... Biden openly admitted to having the classified documents outside of a secure location and where they were stored. Based on Federal law, in a simple interpretation that's enough to charge and convict on a felony. Especially for the the Obama era classified documents which being Vice-President does not offer him any of the special protections and considerations that may apply to a President.

    Special Counsel won't stop any congressional over-sight hearings... It may offer a temporary headwind in requesting information... but not much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Look at Nickdnevergetslaid and his infatuation with old men. If they ever seize his computer they will find nothing but old man porn and child porn on it. I guess he's covering both ends of the spectrum.
    LOLZ this is fucking great! Tell your fucking ugly hag "girlfriend" I said hi...

    BTW, I wouldn't bad-mouth Corvettes if I were you, tard...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    LOLZ this is fucking great! Tell your fucking ugly hag "girlfriend" I said hi...

    BTW, I wouldn't bad-mouth Corvettes if I were you, tard...
    You're my girlfriend, NickdVaughn'sbitch.

    I've owned those pieces of shit that you obviously know nothing about. "50's Corvette". Dumbass. Then again, there isn't anything you know anything about. Except being a dipshit loser Libtard. You're an expert at that. Now go squeeze your fat ass into your little foreign car and drive yourself somewhere where you can actually be productive. The gay bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    You're my girlfriend, NickdVaughn'sbitch.
    You really need to treat me better or else I'm leavin' your abusive ass!

    I've owned those pieces of shit that you obviously know nothing about. "50's Corvette". Dumbass. Then again, there isn't anything you know anything about. Except being a dipshit loser Libtard. You're an expert at that. Now go squeeze your fat ass into your little foreign car and drive yourself somewhere where you can actually be productive. The gay bar.
    I don't have a foreign car haven't driven one in decades! and I'm not sure but think all the gay bars here closed, they don't have the clientele like you and your friends to keep them going... although the high-end ones tend to attract a lot of really hot women I'm told so maybe I will when the one on Allen St. opens under new management. My friend whose a bartender might manage it and even though he has a wife and a new kid, I suspect he's gonna clean up the pussy if he does it...

    And just cause you owned one of these:


    My brother had an actual 64' Vette I think and it was fucking great, but yeah, compared to modern cars the suspension can suck and the engines need to be modernized/rebuilt if you don't wanna grenade one, so he ended up with a Porsche that grenade lol. I agree the current 'vette sorta sucks because of no manual option...

    Personally I prefer Mustangs all day, especially one of these: https://revologycars.com/car/?gclid=...QaAvPZEALw_wcB
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    More documents found yesterday

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/21/polit...nts/index.html

    I agree that there will be another two years wasted on investigations that don't go anywhere. Biden's comments about Trump's case, however, are making this worse, and practically inviting the Republicans to crawl up his ass with a microscope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    More documents found yesterday

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/21/polit...nts/index.html

    I agree that there will be another two years wasted on investigations that don't go anywhere. Biden's comments about Trump's case, however, are making this worse, and practically inviting the Republicans to crawl up his ass with a microscope.
    If those Republicans are so worried about compromised classified info, why didn't they crawl up Trumps's fat ass with a microscope? It's sort of hard to feign the outrage without looking like a bunch of enabling, two-faced shitheads emerging from their current congressional tenure in a clown car...

    But hey, at least evangelical leaders are beginning to diss Drumpf...

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    I will say that Pres. Bidens "no regrets" defiance is jarring and makes him a giant asshhat and even most Democrats are cringing at this point. No one over 70 should be allowed to run for president and no one over 76 should be allowed to be the president...

    Jesus fuck America can we do better than the last two A-holes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    I will say that Pres. Bidens "no regrets" defiance is jarring and makes him a giant asshhat and even most Democrats are cringing at this point. No one over 70 should be allowed to run for president and no one over 76 should be allowed to be the president...

    Jesus fuck America can we do better than the last two A-holes?
    As much as we disagree politically... Hell yes, we can and should do better than the last/current assholes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    I will say that Pres. Bidens "no regrets" defiance is jarring and makes him a giant asshhat and even most Democrats are cringing at this point. No one over 70 should be allowed to run for president and no one over 76 should be allowed to be the president...

    Jesus fuck America can we do better than the last two A-holes?
    Well, we could have done better in the last two elections.... but he was older than either Joe or Cheeto. Yet still mentally capable of doing the job. I'm not saying "Bernie 2024", but.....

    Bernie... with a time machine that can bring back the 40 year old version of himself... in 2024.

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    Fuck the cop cars are older than Biden's sweet Vette!

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    Pedo-Gaetz has a theory!



    and for the record... I wouldn't vote for Newsom either. He was married to Cocaine Kimmy before she got on Cheeto Jr's nutsack.

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    Did Cheeto stash some documents in Pence's garage??


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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    Wonder how far back they're gonna go.
    President Jimmy Carter found classified documents in his home after leaving office in 1981 and
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    At the current disclosure rate... I expect Obama to join the mess soon. But CNN reported yesterday that Clinton, Bush and Obama followed the rules when they left office and have no plans to search for anything.

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    I don't think so. I recall Obama already dealt with the National Archives on any classified stuff he had and they have it essentially in storage for him but we will see...

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