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    Trump's name was already on the primary ballot in this gawd forsaken state.

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    Indictments really mean nothing. You can indict a ham sandwich. Nobody cared about the guy until he got into politics. Suddenly he’s this big criminal.
    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    You need both the government and the private sector but each works best when you hit the sweet spot of just enough regulation with just the right amount of free market capitalism. What brings the downfall is corruption.
    Uh...yes. But then how the hell can you argue that a dictatorship is the most "efficient" system? It is based, in theory and in practice, on pure "CORRUPTION." Dictatorships allow for not only the most immoral situation...but also a severely fucked economy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Indictments really mean nothing. You can indict a ham sandwich. Nobody cared about the guy until he got into politics. Suddenly he’s this big criminal.
    Again...you need to actually do more research beyond "nobody cared about the guy until..."

    Atlantic City DAs and certainly the unions and all the people he put out of business by simply not paying his bills after his casinos were built certainly "cared." This guy has been a corrupt piece of shit FAR LONGER than just his time in politics.

    Why the hell do you think he was already doing business in Russia and other countries (and getting loans from those countries) WAY before he got into politics?

    This guy was known as pure trash and someone NOT to be trusted even before his stint on television and his bullshit public persona as "one of the richest men in America." ACTUAL billionaires thought he was a joke way before he ran for office. And most of them knew it was stupid to ever go into business with them.

    It's all there...if someone wants to look. Trump had a shitty business, credit & legal reputation long before he became EVEN MORE FAMOUS with his political run.

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    Keef knew better....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikk View Post
    Uh...yes. But then how the hell can you argue that a dictatorship is the most "efficient" system? It is based, in theory and in practice, on pure "CORRUPTION." Dictatorships allow for not only the most immoral situation...but also a severely fucked economy!
    Singapore is essentially a dictatorship. The economy is far from bad. Dictatorship basically means one person or group makes the laws. When there is no arguing or debate you can get stuff done efficiently. I think for many people a benevolent dictatorship would be a dream. They could enjoy the benefits and have no responsibility but power corrupts and the dream goes away.

    I thought about moving to Singapore but I like to own land. As far a city living and quality of life, it’s better than anything in the dysfunctional west.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikk View Post
    Again...you need to actually do more research beyond "nobody cared about the guy until..."

    Atlantic City DAs and certainly the unions and all the people he put out of business by simply not paying his bills after his casinos were built certainly "cared." This guy has been a corrupt piece of shit FAR LONGER than just his time in politics.

    Why the hell do you think he was already doing business in Russia and other countries (and getting loans from those countries) WAY before he got into politics?

    This guy was known as pure trash and someone NOT to be trusted even before his stint on television and his bullshit public persona as "one of the richest men in America." ACTUAL billionaires thought he was a joke way before he ran for office. And most of them knew it was stupid to ever go into business with them.

    It's all there...if someone wants to look. Trump had a shitty business, credit & legal reputation long before he became EVEN MORE FAMOUS with his political run.
    What are you going to do when Trump gets a second term? Move to Singapore? You know what casinos do? They launder money. You forgot that one. Dude. We would have to lock up most of the US Congress if we were serious about going after crooks. Trump is just a front. They all are. All I can say is Mr. Casino holds a very fat hand in fact, you are getting a bit of a show. All the world is a stage.
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    0-9 ruling. How do you get that? Hmmmmm.

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    Trump really is no more than bait on a hook and I can’t believe how stupid people are. It’s quite laughable.

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    You still pedaling this false equivalency binary shit?

    All votes are better v worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Singapore is essentially a dictatorship. The economy is far from bad. Dictatorship basically means one person or group makes the laws. When there is no arguing or debate you can get stuff done efficiently. I think for many people a benevolent dictatorship would be a dream. They could enjoy the benefits and have no responsibility but power corrupts and the dream goes away.

    I thought about moving to Singapore but I like to own land. As far a city living and quality of life, it’s better than anything in the dysfunctional west.
    Um, Singapore is a parliamentary republic. They may have authoritarian tendencies but then you speak like a douche out of both sides of your mouth. Do you think Singapore would have tolerated Donald Trumps shit or let him anywhere near a gov't office?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Trump really is no more than bait on a hook and I can’t believe how stupid people are. It’s quite laughable.
    It's like you are describing most of your own posts. You seem to hate gov't meddling and some other libertarian bullshit but then reflex back to a "well run state" which is the ultimate goal of liberal democracy on most nations...

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    Von Halen and Semenmeister need to start a new cuntdown clock atop these forums to when Trump becomes president again. But instead of the old school =VH= logo getting its torch lit it should be a limp wrist from a soft male lib bursting out flames! Cum shot style!

    Do we have the capacity to create that here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    What are you going to do when Trump gets a second term? Move to Singapore? You know what casinos do? They launder money. You forgot that one. Dude. We would have to lock up most of the US Congress if we were serious about going after crooks. Trump is just a front. They all are. All I can say is Mr. Casino holds a very fat hand in fact, you are getting a bit of a show. All the world is a stage.
    THIS isn't even an argument. It's you talking in circles, trying to sound educated but NOT hiding the fact that you aren't even answering my point. You constantly contradict yourself (or facts) and then make some of the most moronic arguments known to man to justify what you said.

    FOR EXAMPLE: "You know what casinos do? They launder money."

    What in the LIVING FUCK does that have to do with the fact that Trump hired hundreds (if not thousands) of contractors to build his casinos...and then in TONS and TONS of cases refused to pay the workers the other half of their salary when the job was finished? THE WORKERS don't own the casino. These were good, hard-working people that did the job he asked of them. Then, he (as he does with most of his lawyers in modern times) refused to pay them. And then they'd have to deal with his (then) team of lawyers (this is before his political days). A minority of them ended up getting their money...MOST didn't. SO MANY ended up going out of business...losing their homes, livelihood...family businesses that had existed for decades were destroyed.

    BUT YOU bring up some stupid argument about "casinos laundering money"? What does that have to do with the workers who had nothing to do with the moral compass of a casino as a business? (Anyone actually educated or even just anyone with common sense who doesn't have a hard-on for a con-man ex-President would literally laugh at whatever argument you were trying to make there.)

    And NOW you're trying the "we would have to lock up most of the US Congress if we were serious about going after crooks" argument?

    THAT'S ALMOST weaker even. You really think you make any sense or further your point-of-view by just saying, "Yeah, he's disgusting...but that's how our people are Congress are, anyway. So...let's just pretend it doesn't matter that he's a completely evil & corrupt scumbag"??

    And people like you who seem to have a complete inability to debate anything (your only goal is to push further and further your loyalty to one individual while denying that is so every two or three posts) constantly talk out of your ass. ONE SECOND, you argue about Biden or Trudeau and their corruption and that we can't allow it any longer (Hunter this, Hunter that), but then, when it comes to Trump, you say, "Well, everyone's corrupt in Congress...so none of this matters."

    UH...what??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    It's like you are describing most of your own posts. You seem to hate gov't meddling and some other libertarian bullshit but then reflex back to a "well run state" which is the ultimate goal of liberal democracy on most nations...
    Seriously. I've never seen someone make the same argument FOR something and then makes the exact same argument AGAINST something...because it fits a narrative that even he doesn't seem to fully understand.

    I've read a lot of stupid shit in political arguments. But the fact that we're now listening to someone make arguments about the "ideal" nature of dictatorships because it fits his narrative... I can't believe he types this shit and thinks he's making anything resembling a good point.

    Anyone who has spent ANY time reading history books (or even just becoming educated) would not be stupid enough to talk about all the positive qualities of dictatorships. He doesn't even understand them.

    If he's ever taken a university level course on economics or political science, I'd be very surprised. And if he has, he certainly didn't do the readings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
    Von Halen and Semenmeister need to start a new cuntdown clock atop these forums to when Trump becomes president again. But instead of the old school =VH= logo getting its torch lit it should be a limp wrist from a soft male lib bursting out flames! Cum shot style!

    Do we have the capacity to create that here?
    I can imagine you're joking. (It's also an interesting suggestion from someone I've read claim repeatedly that he's NOT actually a Trump cultist.)

    But do you know one of the reasons that this is a stupid idea (beyond the obvious fact that it would drive away a lot of the people who still come here)? Because one thing I like about this place is I can read (or reply to) stuff in The Front Line and disagree with someone...but then go to the VH or general music forums and discuss completely different topics with the same people and be completely civil and have good conversation, leaving the politics in The Front Line.

    If Nick or someone thought we should have a countdown to Biden getting re-elected, I would totally disagree with the idea. This forum has a political section...but it has NEVER pushed itself as a political forum FIRST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikk View Post
    I can imagine you're joking. (It's also an interesting suggestion from someone I've read claim repeatedly that he's NOT actually a Trump cultist.)
    Just because I think he's going to win doesn't make me a fan. I think the 49ers will win the Super Bowl next year and I hate those fags! I don't like Trump much none either, but he's still gonna win (unless the mail-in harvested ballots have their way).

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikk View Post
    But do you know one of the reasons that this is a stupid idea (beyond the obvious fact that it would drive away a lot of the people who still come here)?
    Who? The 11 of us?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikk View Post
    Because one thing I like about this place is I can read (or reply to) stuff in The Front Line and disagree with someone...but then go to the VH or general music forums and discuss completely different topics with the same people and be completely civil and have good conversation, leaving the politics in The Front Line.

    If Nick or someone thought we should have a countdown to Biden getting re-elected, I would totally disagree with the idea. This forum has a political section...but it has NEVER pushed itself as a political forum FIRST.
    It will be at this point when I point out that what I said was only in jest. For I do not think it is appropriate, either.

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    I’ve arrived at the George Carlin philosophy of, “It’s all one big club, and you ain’t invited” with my waning interest in politics. Both main choices are reprehensible for both similar and dissimilar reasons.

    I’m actually considering sitting out voting for the first time since my ‘92 eligibility. I don’t really want to help either of these clowns and I’m not particularly thrilled with the Independent choices, either. RFK is alright, but not on everything.

    I imagine I’m not entirely alone. I’m just fatigued from it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    I’ve arrived at the George Carlin philosophy of, “It’s all one big club, and you ain’t invited” with my waning interest in politics. Both main choices are reprehensible for both similar and dissimilar reasons.

    I’m actually considering sitting out voting for the first time since my ‘92 eligibility. I don’t really want to help either of these clowns and I’m not particularly thrilled with the Independent choices, either. RFK is alright, but not on everything.

    I imagine I’m not entirely alone. I’m just fatigued from it all.
    Don't sit it out, at least vote for your local stuff. That's what really makes the difference. But it will be fun seeing libs lose their minds for the next 4 years spewing hate all over again. Waste of time if you ask me, but if you got energy to spare...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
    Just because I think he's going to win doesn't make me a fan. I think the 49ers will win the Super Bowl next year and I hate those fags! I don't like Trump much none either, but he's still gonna win (unless the mail-in harvested ballots have their way).

    ....
    I love how you "don't like Trump much" but still forward his idiot loser excuses...

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    Sort of like my asshole MAGA friends I can barely tolerate at this point sending me Gallup Polls showing Trump ahead of Biden by a couple of points (but within the statistical error). But then they tell me how the election was "stolen" even though the very same polls predicted Biden winning in 2020 by an even bigger margin than he did. So now YOU BELIEVE IN POLLS you ignorant fucks!

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    Trumpettes and MAGAts continue to reinforce Trump’s bad behavior and even excuse his bad behavior. It’s acceptable and now the norm? “Oh a dictatorship is alright.” “Oh he’s draining the swamp” so he can fill it with his puss-corrupted minions, or he fires the upstanding appointees so he can replace with yes men.

    What’s wrong with these Trump quotes?

    'We won this election, and we won it by a landslide'

    'We will stop the steal'

    'We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn't happen'

    ‘You will have an illegitimate president. That is what you will have, and we can't let that happen.’

    'If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore'


    They are lies and Trumpettes slurp it up. And you fucking Trumpettes don’t want to hold him accountable?

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    Don't sit it out, at least vote for your local stuff. That's what really makes the difference. But it will be fun seeing libs lose their minds for the next 4 years spewing hate all over again. Waste of time if you ask me, but if you got energy to spare...
    Idiotic.

    The fact that you're already calling it cracks me up.

    I can remember 50-100 morons telling me that the "libs" (you guys don't realize how stupid you sound every time you call anyone a 'lib' because they don't support a disgusting scumbag narcissist with zero brains or class) didn't have a hope of winning in 2020. You guys were already planning your victory parties.

    The fact that you desperate MAGAs actually still cry about "mail-in votes"...do you really think you're winning an argument or convincing anybody of anything other than the fact that you guys just CAN'T FATHOM that America has a lot more educated people than you realize who don't deify a crook, don't appreciate racism or homophobia, actually have an understanding of history and realize that Russia actually is a threat, dictatorships are not "efficient" and actually are really fucked up, rape is bad...and, most of all, actually care about our country and our families more than the needs of one scumbag who got into politics?

    The race is close. You haven't won a fucking thing yet. I'm not going to declare anything...I know that there are plenty of MAGA idiots who already think he won...and if he doesn't, they will naturally just claim it's a conspiracy and attack the Capitol again, kill more cops...and then say THAT was a Democrat conspiracy too.

    Two years ago, we heard about the "red wave." Republicans were already writing their victory speeches. Cultists were online, mocking Trump-haters...before the election woke them up. "Uh oh," they said. Very rare for a President to keep at least one of the houses during his mid-term...and almost keep the other.

    Almost every major Trump-endorsed candidate lost two years ago (Walker, Lake, etc.). And I had people here telling me those elections were locked.

    I'm not going to declare a fucking thing. But I will try and remember these posts of yours, already calling the 2024 election at the beginning of March.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    I love how you "don't like Trump much" but still forward his idiot loser excuses...
    Seriously. He's always going on about how much he "doesn't like Trump much" before sucking Trump's (reportedly small) penis and already planning victory parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Sort of like my asshole MAGA friends I can barely tolerate at this point sending me Gallup Polls showing Trump ahead of Biden by a couple of points (but within the statistical error). But then they tell me how the election was "stolen" even though the very same polls predicted Biden winning in 2020 by an even bigger margin than he did. So now YOU BELIEVE IN POLLS you ignorant fucks!
    MAGAs believe in whatever is convenient for them in the moment.

    It's how they're able to say that the Capitol Insurrectionists were "tourists" and "very fine people" in one sentence, but then claim it was actually a giant Democrat conspiracy in the next sentence, talk about the people arrested as freedom fighters in one sentence and then declare that the murdered cops were actually victims of Democrats.

    It's the same formula as Republicans one second believing that Russia is part of the axis-of-evil...but then when Trump tells them some years later that Russia is actually an awesome place to live (much better than America, Tucker said, because they have fresh bread and moving shopping cart ramps) and suddenly declares that dictatorships that don't support true free market economies or freedom of speech, suddenly MAGAs believe that too.

    These people are one OT level away from believing in Xenu...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushroom View Post
    They are lies and Trumpettes slurp it up. And you fucking Trumpettes don’t want to hold him accountable?
    One of the biggest reasons I just can't take MAGAs seriously anymore is because every single MAGA I argue with will argue one thing to me one year, and the next year they will be defending an ideal completely the opposite of what they were arguing before. Literally...a complete 180.

    Listening to the same idiots who defended the Iraq War now tell me about "warmonger" Democrats is so ludicrous, it's comedic.

    How can anyone get so angry about people not supporting the police one second and then refuse to even throw respect towards police maimed or killed on January 6th?

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    Say one positive thing about Trump and the libs (I'll call you guys dems instead, which is just as embarrassing, if you like), lose their minds. You're a MAGA!!! You're a Trump supporter! A cultist!!! RASISSTTTT!!!

    You liberal male pussies crack me up! It's so much fun sitting here watching you all lose your shit! I cun't wait to watch you all age 20 years in the next 4 years

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    The funny thing about this huge argument that is going to go on in this thread for the next 8 months or more is that looking at where most of you guys live you will have about as much effect on the final result as me.

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    Is there much argument in this thread? When I look at this thread I mostly see a bunch of dudes buttfucking each other in agreement!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
    Is there much argument in this thread? When I look at this thread I mostly see a bunch of dudes buttfucking each other in agreement!
    I think you always see dudes buttfucking each other in general....

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    Especially the ones who think Cheeto is "fucking hot".....


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    Make America Great Again, Again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    The funny thing about this huge argument that is going to go on in this thread for the next 8 months or more is that looking at where most of you guys live you will have about as much effect on the final result as me.
    My state will probably go for Trump, although my county has always gone for whomever the democratic presidential candidate is...by consistently solid margins, too.
    Scramby eggs and bacon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    I’ve arrived at the George Carlin philosophy of, “It’s all one big club, and you ain’t invited” with my waning interest in politics. Both main choices are reprehensible for both similar and dissimilar reasons.

    I’m actually considering sitting out voting for the first time since my ‘92 eligibility. I don’t really want to help either of these clowns and I’m not particularly thrilled with the Independent choices, either. RFK is alright, but not on everything.

    I imagine I’m not entirely alone. I’m just fatigued from it all.
    It's beyond exhausting.

    I dunno why voters are even talking about it publicly since I tend to think the vast majority who have decided to vote already know who they will be voting for.

    I find the Carlin "one big club" riff thing is applying to many things outside of politics as well.

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    I spent all day skiing solo. Not one person talked politics on the ski lift today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I spent all day skiing solo. Not one person talked politics on the ski lift today.
    Welcome back to your virtual hell! I’ve never heard politics on a ski lift. Really, what nutjob would want to talk politics on a ski lift, unless said nutjob is with nutjob friends. It’s a 5-10 minute ride. If we ended up on the same lift, I’m sure we would find some common ground. But thank god it’s only a 5-10 minute ride. I’m skiing Squaw and Alpine this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
    Is there much argument in this thread? When I look at this thread I mostly see a bunch of dudes buttfucking each other in agreement!
    Just little locker room pats on the butt on my side. Tell me without telling me what you and Nitro and Von Maga are doing in your closet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
    You liberal male pussies crack me up! It's so much fun sitting here watching you all lose your shit!
    1) You give yourself too much credit if you actually think anything you say makes anyone "lose (our) shit." Reading political posts by you & Nitro is like watching two monkeys try to tag-team wrestle a water buffalo.

    2) You could never get me particularly angry with that fucking avatar of Fabulous Shadow in a superhero outfit looking fatter than even Wolfgang Van Halen. Seriously, next time I'm in a bad mood, I'm going to just load up that avatar and stare at it. I cannot stop laughing!

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