Van Halen Donnington 1984

[nick500]

The version I have doesn't have those odd horizontal lines.

It was a dvd someone posted somewhere.
typical screenshot:
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artwork for dvd:
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The url:

https://wetransfer.com/downloads/b335e343342019dccb07144d6177b55920230825131857/7ed11c

[Nickdfresh]

Edde Trunk of Trunk Nation basically restates what most have here regarding the remaining band members being "dysfunctional" cunts in regards to refusing to release any live material from the Dave era and in general. It's rare that I agree with most of what he says but he articulates some good points and relates how he himself has been involved in live concert shoots with Anthrax and speculates as to why this was recorded. He plays the entire HFT intro then comments. At the 8:40 mark he gets specifics and at around 9:50 mark he says he knows someone that says there's a rumor of a huge "motherload of" a ProShot live material but they're figuring how to roll it out:

[Nickdfresh]

I just noticed that this cannot be embedded but I might have a copy in case it gets taken down...

[Vinnie Velvet]

Edde Trunk of Trunk Nation basically restates what most have here regarding the remaining band members being "dysfunctional" cunts in regards to refusing to release any live material from the Dave era and in general. It's rare that I agree with most of what he says but he articulates some good points and relates how he himself has been involved in live concert shoots with Anthrax and speculates as to why this was recorded. He plays the entire HFT intro then comments. At the 8:40 mark he gets specifics and at around 9:50 mark he says he knows someone that says there's a rumor of a huge "motherload of" a ProShot live material but they're figuring how to roll it out:

That fat cunt still hates Dave though and can't stop sucking off Sam.

[Rikk]

I just noticed that this cannot be embedded but I might have a copy in case it gets taken down...

I was still able to click on it and it took me directly to the recommended TimeCode on YouTube itself, so it still works.

[Nickdfresh]

That fat cunt still hates Dave though and can't stop sucking off Sam.

I figured someone would point that out, he criticizes Dave's live singing, but he also criticizes the excessive drum and bass solos...

[Rikk]

That fat cunt still hates Dave though and can't stop sucking off Sam.

I can't stand that fat cunt. I enjoyed THAT METAL SHOW...but I spent my whole time watching that show hating Trunk and liking Jamison and Florentine.

He lied on THAT METAL SHOW and claimed that the 1984 shows were embarrassing because, he claims, they were never onstage together playing for more than 20 minutes total. It's such a lie. Yes, it was more of a show and there were lots of solo sections...but he still claims they barely played any songs in total (they did fucking 16-19 songs every night together).

He's even attacking the solo sections in the Donington show...he attacks them for having the drum solo after the second song and claims this is unique to the 1984 era. The fat cunt doesn't know his facts. Alex was already doing his drum solo at the beginning of the show for years. I haven't seen it in years, but I'm almost sure Alex did his drum solo right near the beginning of the LIVE WITHOUT A NET show.

He claims in this video that the band wasted so much time doing Roth raps and solo sections...but I clearly remember that like 20 minutes of the LIVE WITHOUT A NET video is Sammy rambling on about a woman's panties thrown on stage, a drum solo, a bass solo, a guitar solo... Eddie then claims that the Sammy shows were just songs (and thus, better).

I fucking hate this lying cunt.

I once heard him talk about Little Steven giving Trunk free tickets to a recent E-Street Band show. And Trunk then says he told Little Steven that he didn't really like the show because he doesn't like songs "with chords" and that he prefers music with "riffs." It was one of the most moronic things I've ever heard.

He once got angry at Jamison and Florentine for not agreeing with him that UFO's live album was better than Thin Lizzy's LIVE AND DANGEROUS and Kiss's ALIVE! He literally had a hissy-fit that not everyone agreed with him about his own favorite band.

He's also claiming in this interview that he never knew that Michael Anthony ever played keyboards on stage...and he's bitching about this. Clearly, Trunk doesn't know his facts. Mikey was playing keyboards as early as the WOMEN AND CHILDREN FIRST tour (he did the keyboard in ...AND THE CRADLE WILL ROCK live...and he was playing keyboards on I'LL WAIT and JUMP with Eddie on the 1984 Montreal boot).

He also bitches about Mikey's bass solo being too "over the top" and then talks about Roth being a "showman" (he says it sarcastically) and talks about how terrible Roth's vocals are in the Donington show.

Only Eddie Trunk could watch this Donington footage and use it as an excuse to talk about how Roth "can't sing" and then compare it to Sammy's supposed superiority.

I hate Eddie Trunk.

[Hardrock69]

The tool was claiming Uncle Dave NEVER, I mean, NEVER (ever, forever) could sing.

I know that was wrong. The first 2 tours he was great. No, not a Dio, or Gillan, or Halford, but goddammit, anyone who says he could "never" sing does not know what the fuck they are talking about.

I KNOW differently. I was THERE. FRONT FUCKING ROW.

Fuck Eddie Junk, that fucking self-important bitch.

[Rikk]

The tool was claiming Uncle Dave NEVER, I mean, NEVER (ever, forever) could sing.

I know that was wrong. The first 2 tours he was great. No, not a Dio, or Gillan, or Halford, but goddammit, anyone who says he could "never" sing does not know what the fuck they are talking about.

I KNOW differently. I was THERE. FRONT FUCKING ROW.

Fuck Eddie Junk, that fucking self-important bitch.

Indeed.

Any man who goes on about Blue Murder as one of the great bands in history...

Any man who think UFO (a band I enjoy but don't think are exactly Led Zeppelin or The Rolling Stones) is the greatest band in music history...

Any man who thinks Sammy was superior in every way to Dave and watches the Donington footage and uses it as an excuse to get on his pedestal about Dave sucking...

Any man who says "music with riffs" is superior to "music with chords" (whatever the fuck that means)...

Any man who invents a segment called Stump the Trunk and then literally gets angry at people for coming up with questions to which he doesn't know the answer...

...is a fucking idiot.

He literally goes on rants all the time about how the 1984 Tour sucked. There are literally millions of people who see this tour as one of the high-water moments in rock 'n' roll history. But Trunk thinks they're all wrong because...because...Alex did a drum solo after two songs. (I was right, by the way...in LIVE WITHOUT A NET, Alex does his drum solo after three songs.)

[Vinnie Velvet]

Youtube comment nerds have been trashing Dave's vocals at every chance they get. Which just fuels idiots like Trunk.

Dave was great on lots of CVH shows including Donnington '84. He was stellar on his first solo tour in 86-87.

You wanna know who really sucked live at times? Look no further than Ozzy on the Diary tour. But nooo, he's heralded as a legend by the same youtube comment nerds.

[Rikk]

Youtube comment nerds have been trashing Dave's vocals at every chance they get. Which just fuels idiots like Trunk.

Dave was great on lots of CVH shows including Donnington '84. He was stellar on his first solo tour in 86-87.

You wanna know who really sucked live at times? Look no further than Ozzy on the Diary tour. But nooo, he's heralded as a legend by the same youtube comment nerds.

It's their only fighting tool at this point.

THERE WAS A DECADES-LONG DAVE VS. SAM WAR. It was one of the biggest in music history.

...And they lost.

Dave returned to the band for the reminder of the band's lifetime. Their 2012 album was their best-received album in decades. Hell, I remember Rolling Stone called STAY FROSTY one of the best songs of 2012. People were generally very excited that Dave came back.

And then the cheeseheads, still smarting from the low sales and terrible reviews of the 2004 Sammy reunion tour, started in with the, "Dave wasn't a singer" or "Dave's lyrics make no sense" arguments.

They hate that the public made their choice. And it was Dave.

Eddie even said (in 2015) that Dave being in the band is in "the band's DNA" and that's how people want to see Van Halen. And he thought that "to rob them of that just doesn't seem fair."

When Eddie Van Halen declared that Dave was the public's choice-of-singer for Van Halen, the sheep finally and truly lost the war.

[Vinnie Velvet]

It's their only fighting tool at this point.

THERE WAS A DECADES-LONG DAVE VS. SAM WAR. It was one of the biggest in music history.

...And they lost.

Dave returned to the band for the reminder of the band's lifetime. Their 2012 album was their best-received album in decades. Hell, I remember Rolling Stone called STAY FROSTY one of the best songs of 2012. People were generally very excited that Dave came back.

And then the cheeseheads, still smarting from the low sales and terrible reviews of the 2004 Sammy reunion tour, started in with the, "Dave wasn't a singer" or "Dave's lyrics make no sense" arguments.

They hate that the public made their choice. And it was Dave.

Eddie even said (in 2015) that Dave being in the band is in "the band's DNA" and that's how people want to see Van Halen. And he thought that "to rob them of that just doesn't seem fair."

When Eddie Van Halen declared that Dave was the public's choice-of-singer for Van Halen, the sheep finally and truly lost the war.

Agreed.

It took thirty years for Ed to admit it but he did.

[Terry]

Trunk has always had that opinion about Roth.

Trunk was hardly the only person who thought Roth was a bad singer, or a singer who in terms of vocal ability wasn't up to par with what Eddie was doing guitar-wise. Plenty of critics - and more than a few rock star contemporaries back when CVH was active - thought Roth was basically a clownish showoff and that Roth's schtick was actually holding Eddie back and holding the group back from being anything other (or greater) than a party rock band. Hell, even the Van Halens only sort of grudgingly accepted Roth into the band because Roth was so persistent, and neither the Van Halens nor Michael Anthony thought Roth was a great singer. I think because the Van Halens already felt that way about Roth before the band even got signed, once those thoughts were expressed by critics and musicians it just reinforced those notions the Van Halens already had back in 1974.

Far as I'm concerned, Roth was the perfect singer for the band. What Eddie Trunk or Sammy Hagar or a bunch of people on the internet say has zero relevance to me. I was about as big a fan of Eddie Van Halen as anybody when CVH were active. When Dave left in 1985, I gave Van Halen and Hagar the benefit of the doubt. I even gave Van Halen III a fair listen. It's telling that what I enjoyed most post-1984 were the two BOV1 tracks and ADKOT: Roth and Ed make things happen. Even with Dave sounding a bit worse for wear in 1996 and without Mike Anthony in 2012, Ed and Dave could still conjure up the magic. Van Halen were never all about Eddie for me, and without Dave it just wasn't Van Halen.

[Seshmeister]

I can't stand that fat cunt. I enjoyed THAT METAL SHOW...but I spent my whole time watching that show hating Trunk and liking Jamison and Florentine.

He lied on THAT METAL SHOW and claimed that the 1984 shows were embarrassing because, he claims, they were never onstage together playing for more than 20 minutes total. It's such a lie. Yes, it was more of a show and there were lots of solo sections...but he still claims they barely played any songs in total (they did fucking 16-19 songs every night together).

He's even attacking the solo sections in the Donington show...he attacks them for having the drum solo after the second song and claims this is unique to the 1984 era. The fat cunt doesn't know his facts. Alex was already doing his drum solo at the beginning of the show for years. I haven't seen it in years, but I'm almost sure Alex did his drum solo right near the beginning of the LIVE WITHOUT A NET show.

He claims in this video that the band wasted so much time doing Roth raps and solo sections...but I clearly remember that like 20 minutes of the LIVE WITHOUT A NET video is Sammy rambling on about a woman's panties thrown on stage, a drum solo, a bass solo, a guitar solo... Eddie then claims that the Sammy shows were just songs (and thus, better).

I fucking hate this lying cunt.

I once heard him talk about Little Steven giving Trunk free tickets to a recent E-Street Band show. And Trunk then says he told Little Steven that he didn't really like the show because he doesn't like songs "with chords" and that he prefers music with "riffs." It was one of the most moronic things I've ever heard.

He once got angry at Jamison and Florentine for not agreeing with him that UFO's live album was better than Thin Lizzy's LIVE AND DANGEROUS and Kiss's ALIVE! He literally had a hissy-fit that not everyone agreed with him about his own favorite band.

He's also claiming in this interview that he never knew that Michael Anthony ever played keyboards on stage...and he's bitching about this. Clearly, Trunk doesn't know his facts. Mikey was playing keyboards as early as the WOMEN AND CHILDREN FIRST tour (he did the keyboard in ...AND THE CRADLE WILL ROCK live...and he was playing keyboards on I'LL WAIT and JUMP with Eddie on the 1984 Montreal boot).

He also bitches about Mikey's bass solo being too "over the top" and then talks about Roth being a "showman" (he says it sarcastically) and talks about how terrible Roth's vocals are in the Donington show.

Only Eddie Trunk could watch this Donington footage and use it as an excuse to talk about how Roth "can't sing" and then compare it to Sammy's supposed superiority.

I hate Eddie Trunk.

It's so weird in a country of 300 million people this fat oaf became the go to guy for classic rock in the US. He has no personality or chat worth listening to, he has a fucking ludicrous self importance and pretty shitty understanding of music.

[Nickdfresh]

I can't stand that fat cunt. I enjoyed THAT METAL SHOW...but I spent my whole time watching that show hating Trunk and liking Jamison and Florentine.

He lied on THAT METAL SHOW and claimed that the 1984 shows were embarrassing because, he claims, they were never onstage together playing for more than 20 minutes total. It's such a lie. Yes, it was more of a show and there were lots of solo sections...but he still claims they barely played any songs in total (they did fucking 16-19 songs every night together).

He's even attacking the solo sections in the Donington show...he attacks them for having the drum solo after the second song and claims this is unique to the 1984 era. The fat cunt doesn't know his facts. Alex was already doing his drum solo at the beginning of the show for years. I haven't seen it in years, but I'm almost sure Alex did his drum solo right near the beginning of the LIVE WITHOUT A NET show.

He claims in this video that the band wasted so much time doing Roth raps and solo sections...but I clearly remember that like 20 minutes of the LIVE WITHOUT A NET video is Sammy rambling on about a woman's panties thrown on stage, a drum solo, a bass solo, a guitar solo... Eddie then claims that the Sammy shows were just songs (and thus, better).

I fucking hate this lying cunt.

I once heard him talk about Little Steven giving Trunk free tickets to a recent E-Street Band show. And Trunk then says he told Little Steven that he didn't really like the show because he doesn't like songs "with chords" and that he prefers music with "riffs." It was one of the most moronic things I've ever heard.

He once got angry at Jamison and Florentine for not agreeing with him that UFO's live album was better than Thin Lizzy's LIVE AND DANGEROUS and Kiss's ALIVE! He literally had a hissy-fit that not everyone agreed with him about his own favorite band.

He's also claiming in this interview that he never knew that Michael Anthony ever played keyboards on stage...and he's bitching about this. Clearly, Trunk doesn't know his facts. Mikey was playing keyboards as early as the WOMEN AND CHILDREN FIRST tour (he did the keyboard in ...AND THE CRADLE WILL ROCK live...and he was playing keyboards on I'LL WAIT and JUMP with Eddie on the 1984 Montreal boot).

He also bitches about Mikey's bass solo being too "over the top" and then talks about Roth being a "showman" (he says it sarcastically) and talks about how terrible Roth's vocals are in the Donington show.

Only Eddie Trunk could watch this Donington footage and use it as an excuse to talk about how Roth "can't sing" and then compare it to Sammy's supposed superiority.

I hate Eddie Trunk.

I can honestly say I never enjoyed fat asshole loser's "Metal Show"...

If he really thinks that Hagar was the better vocalist, fine, I do not and never will agree but can respect that. The main problem I have is the massive callus Trunk has built into the back of his throat from Sammy's cock bumping into it. I can see okay maybe you like Sam's voice better; maybe, he has a bigger range and all that. Okay, Sam sounds like a howler monkey raping Janis Joplin to me. He sucked and was terrible in the mix of Van "Halen". Boy George is also technically a great singer, but sure as fuck doesn't mix well with anything Van Halen. Maybe if Trunk became friends with him like a truly shitty journalist with no ethics, he'd be blowing Boy George as well...

The problem I have with Trunk is that he's a softball lobbing cunt that has never called out Sam out on his lies because he's a weak shit and certainly in no way a real journalist. I did think the rumors he heard were interesting, but will apparently be lost on his lard lapping ass as he really doesn't appreciate classic Van Halen...
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