Do I think he has a snowball's chance in Hell of actually being elected? Probably not... but he makes an interesting case for candidacy.....
Do I think he has a snowball's chance in Hell of actually being elected? Probably not... but he makes an interesting case for candidacy.....
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I'm part-Armenian...and I'd still vote for him (and believe me, that's a big deal to admit among Armenians).
I'd certainly take him over the field of complete morons we have now.
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Cenk's co host Ana Kasparian is Armenian. People used to give her shit about working on a show called "The Young Turks" all the time apparently.
Cenk once re-stated Turkish propaganda about the Genocide being a "Civil War." He's since taken back those words and calmed some of the rage.
That said, it's hard for Armenians (like me) to watch a show called THE YOUNG TURKS. That was the exact name of the political party that committed the Genocide. I lost various family members (including my great-grandmother, who was murdered while pregnant). Cenk has been asked numerous times to change the name, but it's a brand now, so he won't.
It WAS a poor choice, though.
That said, I do enjoy watching the channel and I agree with most of his views concerning America.
Unlike some of my relatives, I am not a militant anti-Turk. I think that road gets people nowhere. I am simply pro-recognition & admittance of the Genocide.
Nickdfresh (10-23-2023)
Jesus Fucking Christ
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Kennedy Jr will get more votes than him as an independant.
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If Bobby Kennedy were still an environmental attorney, I'd consider voting for him. I don't know who's going to vote for the antivax lunatic who believes the COVID virus was a bioweapon designed to not kill Jews or Chinese people. People who agree with that insanity are already voting for Cheeto... or if he's in prison by then, DeSantis or that psycho Rammyswarmy (or however you spell his name). Even his past environmental experience doesn't seem to matter to him anymore, since he recently made some insane comments about polluting corporations being able to regulate themselves. (Yeah, because they have done such a fantastic job of that, so far. )
That being the case, he's far more likely to pull votes from the right, and not the left. And third party right wing candidates (i.e. Gary "bad rug" Johnson of the Libertarian party) have actually done slightly better in past elections than the left wing third parties (usually Green party... Ralph Nader, Jill Stein, etc.) All Bobby has really done for himself by switching from Democratic to Independent is to free up more votes for Cornel West, in terms of any left leaning folks not willing to vote for the eventual Democratic nominee.
Of course that's only on the assumption that Biden has the nomination. He doesn't yet.
Eisenhower once said you have to be crazy to want the presidency. Pick your nutcase.
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Eisenhower probably said that after he realized what sort of people he was working with while he was President. As in, the Bush Criminal Empire. He never bought into their agenda entirely, and actually tried to warn the American people about it (see his "Cross of Iron" and "Military Industrial Complex" speeches) but he did allow some of their bullshit to happen... like the CIA backed coup in Iran in 1953, which overthrew their democratically elected Mosaddegh government, and replaced him with the Shah. And of course, Ike was the first US president to get involved in Vietnam.
At least he knew better than to endorse his own VP in 1960. Because he knew Nixon was 100% on board with the BCE agenda.
KanekoaTheGreat (@KanekoaTheGreat) posted: BREAKING - Cenk Uygur announces stunning presidential run promising to defeat Joe Biden, Community Notes, and the US Constitution.
https://x.com/kanekoathegreat/status...0hVmJwYyUCzbEQ
Puke Yuger and slave FORD What other proof do you need they are on the Koch payroll?
Nickdfresh (10-23-2023)
Just another grifter bringing attention to himself.
Kristy (10-22-2023),Nickdfresh (10-23-2023)
I enjoyed Cenk and TYT...probably safe to say much more so ten years ago than I do these days, since it's very infrequent now that I watch them vs. 2012. Dunno, just don't feel the need to get bombarded with ideological pablum, regardless of the source.
As to why Uygur has (or will?) launched a quixotic bid for the White House...I suppose I can't say for sure re: lack of TYT views on my part nowadays and being in the TYT loop. I'd readily admit to finding a degree of charm in what TYT was doing circa 2012 or so, even if the TYT mentality was more than less at times pie-in-sky naive with what could actually be achieved politically vs. progressive pipe dreams. I think what I enjoyed was that at least TYT seemingly had a political core set of beliefs and wasn't constantly trying to fashion what was happening in the world into yet another bland, corporatized portrait of journalistic 'objectivity'...one knew where TYT was coming from and viewed their content accordingly.
I'd like to think Uygur is running for President in accordance with principled beliefs, rather than merely - because what downside is there for non-hopefuls with no chance of winning of running and predictably losing? - as an attention-getting tactic to boost his 'brand'...although I suppose even upwardly mobile hard lefties have to maintain a business model that pays the bills somehow.
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I doubt he's getting Koch.But he'll achieve nothing but drawing off a few thousand votes from Biden or will dropout after his 'statement". But he might possibly help Trump, maybe maybe not.
It might be a bit worse as Uygur might want Trump to win to create sort of a bomb scenario where Trum'pocolyse happens and the left is resurgent and energized. But who knows what the fuck he'll do if Drumpf gets any power again? Uygur is a douche and Sam Seder is way better if you are in that sort of thing. He's at best a bit irresponsible and possibly a very cynical opportunist willing to play Russian Roulette...
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Oh dear, how many more of these Koch-funded interviews are there going to be?
I’m tired of all these niche pod casts and shows. Like political parties they just divide the public. I miss the days when everyone watched the same news shows and they reported the news and didn’t tell you what to think. What we have now is partisan propaganda.
A divided population only helps the rich.
slave FORD just adores his Koch-funded candidate.
The ACTUAL "Koch funded candidates" (Hillary/Biden) are the ones who got us in this mess in the first fucking place.
Oh-PLUUUEZE. Biden is controlled and red-pilled by the IDF and as for Hillary she's no Koch-funded anything, she made her millions off of sucking America's white trash dry by instilling Walmarts in rural towns bleeding al the "Mom and Pop Stores" dry. And she still wonders why she ran such a shitty campaign and why so much of America fucking hates her.
And the Kochs, Waltons, and NuttyYahoo are all on the same team. Team global fascism. And in the case of the Broncos, Team Shitty Football (owned by Walton heirs & BCE warmonger Kindasleazy Rice)
You're turning into Alex Jone$.
Don't be ridiculous, you illuminati globalist crisis actor!!
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