Best to Worst ROCKY Movies

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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35160

    #16
    Originally posted by Kristy
    Rocky IV was a cinematic masterpiece of pro-Reagan/anti-RuZZian propaganda. A Cold War mainstay and a epic synopsis of the festering evil that was the Soviet Empire, Rocky IV clearly demonstrated America's need to bring focus to the public (via propaganda) that the Ivan Dragos of the world were out to get white suburban USA and invade their swimming pools. Mind you, Rocky IV was the brainchild of Republican faith that America was rotting and the only way to save it was by a boxing match between an Italian porn star and a horrible Swedish actor. You diss on Rocky IV well, you're just shitting all over America in my opinion.
    Nowadays the big final bout would be set in Florida and the crowd would turn on Rocky chanting "Drago Drago Drago!". Rocky shouts 'Adriane!" one last time as he hits the canvas dead and Putin and Trump fist bump in their bullet proof VIP box...

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    • Terry
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Jan 2004
      • 11953

      #17
      Originally posted by Kristy
      Rocky IV was a cinematic masterpiece of pro-Reagan/anti-RuZZian propaganda. A Cold War mainstay and a epic synopsis of the festering evil that was the Soviet Empire, Rocky IV clearly demonstrated America's need to bring focus to the public (via propaganda) that the Ivan Dragos of the world were out to get white suburban USA and invade their swimming pools. Mind you, Rocky IV was the brainchild of Republican faith that America was rotting and the only way to save it was by a boxing match between an Italian porn star and a horrible Swedish actor. You diss on Rocky IV well, you're just shitting all over America in my opinion.
      Rocky IV sucked.

      Even Survivor half-assed their contribution to that flick, because why not? Everything else about the movie was half-assed.

      America circa Rocky IV was the shit, but Rocky IV was just plain shit.
      Scramby eggs and bacon.

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      • Seshmeister
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Oct 2003
        • 35160

        #18
        Originally posted by Terry
        Rocky IV sucked.

        Even Survivor half-assed their contribution to that flick, because why not? Everything else about the movie was half-assed.

        America circa Rocky IV was the shit, but Rocky IV was just plain shit.
        I only watched it at the time it came out once and thought it was shit too I think it's ended up with a bit of a following as time has gone on with people who could view it as a bit of WWE fun. I seem to remember the Russian crowd changing to be Rocky fans was just too ridiculous for me to get by.

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        • Terry
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Jan 2004
          • 11953

          #19
          Originally posted by Seshmeister
          I only watched it at the time it came out once and thought it was shit too I think it's ended up with a bit of a following as time has gone on with people who could view it as a bit of WWE fun. I seem to remember the Russian crowd changing to be Rocky fans was just too ridiculous for me to get by.
          I watched it a bunch of times on cable tv - probably HBO - maybe 6 months or so after it had the US theatrical run.

          I had watched Rocky III a bunch of times on cable tv - probably HBO - several years before.

          Rocky III wasn't any great shakes either, especially compared with the first two Rocky flicks. BUT Rocky III had the novelty of Mr. T when nobody knew who the fuck Mr. T was. And a cameo by Hulk Hogan just as WWF was starting to really take off in a big way in the US. And a truly great song, Eye Of The Tiger, by Survivor. Plus, Rocky got his ass kicked, Mickey died, Apollo trained Rocky, Rocky came back and beat Mr. Clubber T Lang.

          Rocky IV had a lame song by Survivor. It had this wacky plot. I mean, has anybody ever been punched to death in a pro boxing match? And, yeah, the idea that a fight between an American and a Russian in Russia in an arena full of Russians would end up with the spectators cheering for the American...look, I could suspend disbelief when Rocky came back and beat Clubber in III, but Drago would have beat the shit out of Rocky.
          Scramby eggs and bacon.

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          • Catfish
            Sniper
            • Jan 2004
            • 898

            #20
            Drago's pouncing power was*1,850 pounds per square inch. Even if Drago landed 50 or so punches to the face at around 1,400psi throughout the bout, the laws of physics alone would kill Rocky by the end of the fight. At least Rocky was properly tarded up in Rocky V to at least save SOME face.

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            • Seshmeister
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Oct 2003
              • 35160

              #21
              My memory of it is that Rocky seems to jump about 50 IQ points between Rocky II and III though so that was him just going back to normal.

              Is there not a story that Stallone ended up in hospital for a while when Drago hit him for real?

              Also other little bit of trivia I believe without looking it up that Dolph Lungren fucked his way onto the screen by banging Grace Jones and she then got him a little part in A View To A Kill.

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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35160

                #22
                Originally posted by Terry
                It had this wacky plot. I mean, has anybody ever been punched to death in a pro boxing match?
                Yeah totally. Maybe not like that but I can think of at least a couple in the 80s and I'm no boxing expert.

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                • Catfish
                  Sniper
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 898

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Seshmeister
                  My memory of it is that Rocky seems to jump about 50 IQ points between Rocky II and III though so that was him just going back to normal.

                  Is there not a story that Stallone ended up in hospital for a while when Drago hit him for real?

                  Also other little bit of trivia I believe without looking it up that Dolph Lungren fucked his way onto the screen by banging Grace Jones and she then got him a little part in A View To A Kill.
                  In R3 Mickey tells Rocky that the worst thing that can happen to a fighter happened: you went and got civilized.

                  Yeah, they were really slugging each other and Dolph nailed him in the chest and it swole up part of his heart.

                  I heard the same about Jones. In the movie you see him pull a gun on her lol.

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32797

                    #24
                    Rocky. Rambo. We really did have Sylvester Stallone shoved up our ass in those days.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32797

                      #25
                      Eat lots of protein. Live in the gym. Take steroids. Become a Hollywood boy toy. You might become a star.
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • twonabomber
                        formerly F A T
                        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 11191

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Terry
                        I mean, has anybody ever been punched to death in a pro boxing match?
                        Duk Koo-kim
                        Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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                        • Rikk
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 16392

                          #27
                          Kim Duk-koo was a southpaw who was killed in a Lightweight Championship match with Ray Mancini in November 1982. (He died five days after the match, with a mass of blood on his brain from one of the punches putting him in a coma immediately after the match.)

                          NOT AS WELL-KNOWN:
                          His mother, who flew from South Korea to be with her son before they turned his life-support off, killed herself three months later by drinking a bottle of poison (pesticide). ALSO, the fight's referee, Richard Green, killed himself with a gun less than a year after the right.

                          Kim's fiancee was pregnant at the time (very early) and had Kim's son in July 1983. The son and his mother met Mancini in a cordial meeting in 2011. (Kim's death greatly affected Mancini for years after the fight.)
                          Roth Army Militia

                          Originally posted by WARF
                          Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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                          • Rikk
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 16392

                            #28
                            OH...and when Kim lay dying in the ring, Mancini did NOT stand over him and say into the microphone, "And if he dies, HE DIES." (I bet Mancini never watched ROCKY IV.)
                            Roth Army Militia

                            Originally posted by WARF
                            Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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                            • Catfish
                              Sniper
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 898

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Rikk
                              OH...and when Kim lay dying in the ring, Mancini did NOT stand over him and say into the microphone, "And if he dies, HE DIES." (I bet Mancini never watched ROCKY IV.)
                              What a missed opportunity!

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                              • Terry
                                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 11953

                                #30
                                Ok, fine, fuck it.

                                Since a real-life somebody once died in a boxing match it stands to reason Rocky IV is the greatest boxing movie ever...or at the very least, the greatest movie in the Rocky series after Rocky I, Rocky 2, Rocky 3, Rocky 5 and Rocky 6.

                                Ivan Drago can box my sweaty sack.
                                Scramby eggs and bacon.

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