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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Sorry Val. You got out done by a porn industry publicist. I doubt she blindsided Ed like you admitted to doing. Also you saw all his problems before you married him. You don’t marry a rock star and then act surprised he has an addiction problem.
    I realize this is a ‘three sides to every story’ thing, but Ed tells Steve Rosen in Tonechaser that he left Val.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    There was a huge curiosity factor with Wolfgang. I don’t like the band logo which was Patrick Bertinelli’s idea but the album art is cool which Wolfgang chose and having different colored LP’s is cool. The marketing is ok. The show is ok. Nothing magical. Nothing that blows your mind. It just ain’t there. I mean what kind of poetry is a sheltered rich kid going to write? The kid grew up in a comfortable prison.
    If I had liked what I'd heard with Mammoth's first album, I'd be fine saying so to you guys, even if the majority of you said you avidly hated it.

    Nothing special jumped out when I gave the album tracks a listen via the postings here circa late 2020 (I don't even know if I've subsequently listened to Mammoth's second album...if I did I have no memory of it). And I listened to that stuff well in advance of Wolfgang's Twitter bitching barrage that I began reading about in late 2021, so it wasn't a case of already having had an agenda of thinking the kid was a dick or whatever before hearing the Mammoth stuff. Even if I had already thought the kid was a dick, if I thought the tracks were good I wouldn't have cared about the personality behind them.
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    Maybe I am misremembering, but I recall a longer version of this press conference - it wasn't packaged up like this clip, edited with the intro etc - and at one point Tyler was getting exasperated with Dave's quips, pulling faces, etc, and he said "I'll have whatever that guy is on". That was a hoot.
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    Is this really 'pro shot' or is it just lifted from what was shown on the giant screen during the gig? Because if it's that, there are 50 of these from this tour.

    There are numerous DLR videos afoot from the 2002 tour with that flabby asshole that are recordings of the stage screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikk View Post
    Well, I'm glad they kept all three NEW songs from the tour during this shorter festival gig. It's only five songs shorter than a typical set from 2013.

    They cut I'M THE ONE, HEAR ABOUT IT LATER (Dave butchered this song on Tokyo Dome), ...AND THE CRADLE WILL ROCK (I'm fine with them cutting this instead of EVERYBODY WANTS SOME or ROMEO), WOMEN IN LOVE and MEAN STREET. I fucking wish they kept MEAN STREET in the set still.

    Good setlist, though.
    I love the way Dave sang Hear About it Later on TD, it's one of my favorite things about that album. I don't care about the perfect lyrics, I dig the way he had fun with it in the outro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
    Is this really 'pro shot' or is it just lifted from what was shown on the giant screen during the gig? Because if it's that, there are 50 of these from this tour.
    What was shown on the screen at Van Halen shows was a mix of pro-shot footage of the band (live feed) with various pre-filmed videos (like Dave's dogs, etc.). Yes, there are a ton of people that actually filmed the screens at shows (which is not very good quality)...but EVERY SINGLE multi-cam of Van Halen during the reunion years that we've had access to (so far) has ALWAYS been strictly filmed by different fans with their phones (or video cameras), edited together with (almost always) sound from audience microphones.

    THIS NEW VIDEO was released (or leaked) by the actual director of the pro-shot concert. He has his own channel of pro-shot concerts he's directed for bands, straight from the master tapes.

    THIS leak is the VERY FIRST TIME an actual COMPLETE and PRO-SHOT master tape has leaked...NOT filmed by a fan. And it's in 1080p (high-definition)...literally PERFECT quality. The audio is also the soundboard, directly from the board, sync'd perfectly with the pro-shot show.

    Trust me: I have at least 20 shows from the reunion years on Blu-Ray that I've downloaded from YouTube (or a few torrent sites). Without exception, every single one of them is filmed by fans (or someone filming the screen from the audience).

    Hopefully, there will be more to come. (The band isn't going to release anything as long as Wolfgang keeps pumping out his crappy MAMMOTH albums...so, hopefully, more vids like this one will leak.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silexxx View Post
    Here's more.
    These are great! THANKS! (Gonna use some of these as supplemental features on my Sydney 2013 Blu-Ray I'm making.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHscraps View Post
    Maybe I am misremembering, but I recall a longer version of this press conference - it wasn't packaged up like this clip, edited with the intro etc - and at one point Tyler was getting exasperated with Dave's quips, pulling faces, etc, and he said "I'll have whatever that guy is on". That was a hoot.
    Tyler NEVER liked DLR. When Van Halen broke big, Aerosmith were falling apart (and not selling nearly as many records). Tyler resented the hell out of Dave...thought he was ripping off his whole schtick (which Dave wasn't...Dave isn't almost at all like Tyler, IMO).

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    That's true - Dave and VH swept them aside when they arrived on the scene.

    Talking about influences, Tyler, on the other hand, sometimes strikes me as a fan of Cab Calloway ... Aerosmith sometimes sound like a hard rock version of a 1930s jazz horn band, the riffs, and the scat singing from Tyler. Listen to Bolivian Ragamuffin from 'Rock In A Hard Place', which is one of their greatest albums (unsung, though, cos Joe Perry and Brad Whitford are not on it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikk View Post
    Tyler NEVER liked DLR. When Van Halen broke big, Aerosmith were falling apart (and not selling nearly as many records). Tyler resented the hell out of Dave...thought he was ripping off his whole schtick (which Dave wasn't...Dave isn't almost at all like Tyler, IMO).
    Dave’s version of Last Child from the Golden West Ballroom’76 is fookin’ amazing. Even with his microphone breaking up at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VHscraps View Post
    That's true - Dave and VH swept them aside when they arrived on the scene.

    Talking about influences, Tyler, on the other hand, sometimes strikes me as a fan of Cab Calloway ... Aerosmith sometimes sound like a hard rock version of a 1930s jazz horn band, the riffs, and the scat singing from Tyler. Listen to Bolivian Ragamuffin from 'Rock In A Hard Place', which is one of their greatest albums (unsung, though, cos Joe Perry and Brad Whitford are not on it).
    You just named what is (in my opinion) Aerosmith's most-underrated album: ROCK IN A HARD PLACE.

    This is a seriously good hard rock album.

    BOLIVIAN RAGAMUFFIN is the best song on the album...definitely got that 1930s Calloway scat-singing-style on the verses...and the riffs are just killer! (Jimmy Crespo really was a monster.) JAILBAIT is also a seriously great hard rock track.

    One could make the argument that NIGHT IN THE RUTS is also under-rated...but I think a lot of people have come around since then to recognize just how great an album that really is. Listen to CHEESE CAKE. Not only is Tyler great on this song...but Perry's slide playing on that is mesmerizing!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post
    Dave’s version of Last Child from the Golden West Ballroom’76 is fookin’ amazing. Even with his microphone breaking up at times.
    Damn! I've never heard that. I need to check it out!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikk View Post
    Damn! I've never heard that. I need to check it out!!


    7:45 mark. Ed’s guitar craps out after a kick ass solo, then Al, Mike and Dave keep it grooving until Ed gets back up in there. Dave does some great “LAST CHILD” howls, then his mic craps out. Still amazing for punk kids in ‘76.

    God, I just noticed whomever put this video out has Dave with the rings logo on the front. Unforgivable!

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    I’m sure equipment crapped out all the time in those days. Chris Holmes said there was a community of guitar players and they were really good at loaning equipment to each other. Ed used his amp, he used Ed’s amp. Guitars were borrowed. The funniest thing was people started peeling their Marshall cabs thinking Ed did it to make them sound better. The reality was Chris Holmes stole the cabs and he peeled them so they couldn’t be identified and Ed eventually ended up with them and even used them on the first world tour.

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    Did they shoot video of every concert on their tours?
    Dave does some great singing here with just the acoustic on Ice Cream man.
    I wonder if the instruments and vocals can be isolated with AI and a remix done?
    If the sound is what Dave was hearing, he'd have a tough time hearing himself clearly.
    He really needs a slight reverb on his voice, like the old days.
    Good for the director for putting it out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLR Bridge View Post


    7:45 mark. Ed’s guitar craps out after a kick ass solo, then Al, Mike and Dave keep it grooving until Ed gets back up in there. Dave does some great “LAST CHILD” howls, then his mic craps out. Still amazing for punk kids in ‘76.

    God, I just noticed whomever put this video out has Dave with the rings logo on the front. Unforgivable!
    The quality of this recording is really, really good.

    Damn...time to extract the audio from this and create another album for my iTunes.

    Seriously clear-sounding soundboard.

    THANKS!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VHscraps View Post
    That's true - Dave and VH swept them aside when they arrived on the scene.
    It's interesting that Aerosmith were ok with 'supporting' Van Halen at this gig especially at an outdoor show which means maybe playing with no lights.

    It's usually an ego thing with these people, I'm trying to think of an instance when Dave even as a solo artist supported a younger band than Van Halen. Bands that he has appeared under on a bill were acts like ACDC, KISS and Bad Company, never Guns N Roses or Bon Jovi. In 2013 you would imagine that even ignoring seniority Aerosnith were a bigger act than a reformed Van Halen, even in Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    It's interesting that Aerosmith were ok with 'supporting' Van Halen at this gig especially at an outdoor show which means maybe playing with no lights.

    It's usually an ego thing with these people, I'm trying to think of an instance when Dave even as a solo artist supported a younger band than Van Halen. Bands that he has appeared under on a bill were acts like ACDC, KISS and Bad Company, never Guns N Roses or Bon Jovi. In 2013 you would imagine that even ignoring seniority Aerosnith were a bigger act than a reformed Van Halen, even in Australia.
    Yeah, true. I think Aerosmith were playing some dates in SE Asia and the promoters roped them in to the Stone Festival to try and sell more tickets. Maybe VH had a clause in their contract about headlining or closing the show.

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    In that press conference they were either jet lagged to fuck or well medicated to keep them off their favorite addictions.

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