I`ve never played a seven stringer personally, I couldn`t afford one and I don`t have the balls to try one out in store, I was just wondering what everybody else thinks about them.
Does having that extra string give an extra dimension or do you still stick to the usual six strings?
It sure doesn`t make any of Steve Vai`s records any more listenable.
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Fad.
Who uses 'em besides Korn & Steph Carpenter from the Deftones?
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We are talking an extra top string right ?
How is it tuned ? Is it in E or do they actually tune
it to A ?? I wonder how your normally played chords
sound ?
It's actually tuned to a B, if I'm not mistaken, which is like a 5 string bass. So you get B E A D G B E for a 7 string tuning.
To me there really isn't much point to it. Anything in that low of a register should be handled by the bassist.
I played one and hated it...
Shit, I had this figured out the other way, I thought they put an extra high string on, not an extra "Bass" string.Originally posted by Brownsound1
It's actually tuned to a B, if I'm not mistaken, which is like a 5 string bass. So you get B E A D G B E for a 7 string tuning.
To me there really isn't much point to it. Anything in that low of a register should be handled by the bassist.
I say innovative ... you guys ever heard of Korn!?
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Uh...............this is like the question of whether or not more than 4 strings are needed for a bass. Hell, 4 give me enough trouble.
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how often does steve vai use them these days?
i think that answers your question
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Seven String Theory
Seven stringers are very cool but it takes being in your hands to find out. Here's one of the best things ...
Unlike a sax, for example, guitar is often played as a sight-based instrument. I.e, you choose your next note because of its position on the fretboard, not because you have a melody in your head. A seven string screws up your visual accomodation of the instrument and initially leads to some horrible mistakes. And mistakes, as we well know, are often the basis of really cool new ideas. And cool new tunes. In a way, a seven string is like playing in a new tuning. Also, truly thunderous chords are now available.
As to the charge that the seventh string is not necessary, I would point out that the top and bottom octaves of a piano are seldom used. But when needed, those notes are only available in one place. I'm sure your not thinking of taking a chainsaw to your piano because of this (though it would fit better in the back seat).
Also, a seven string can be tuned in a variety of ways. I guess you could put an .008 on top and tune the whole thing a step or two down.
Warning: don't play your 7string at an important gig until your are totally familiar with what it does. Under stress, things can go wrong and you'll have some heavy explaining to do. No one will be happy with your experiment or your excuse.
2nd Warning: if you play your 7string long enough, your regular guitar will feel like a banjo when you go back to it!!!
Good luck, god bless, keep making music.
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i know something else that feels like a banjo
a pink banjo
i'm playing it now
Well, I've tried a used seven string out at Guitar World last weekend. Honestly, it plays well, but the extra bottom string takes some getting used to. It's great to experiment with, and it's even more fun if it comes with a locking tremolo system. Overall, since they've gone "out of style", I'm no longer afraid to experiment. But it was a fad
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Originally posted by Mr Grimsdale
i know something else that feels like a banjo
a pink banjo
i'm playing it now
LMAO !!
I like the low tones you can let ring out over the top of other playing. Jeff Loomis plays 7 strings and imo he's one of the best and most innovative players going around.
As long as all the regular strings are standard tunings dont think there is really a problem with it being 'too low' and competing with the bass. Besides a clean bass note and distorted guitar note of the same octave will sound different anyway. BTW i dont own a 7 string or play one. I just think they have their place. I WAS going to post a couple of cool 7 string clips but u tube is down................TBC
Yup that's it's exactly. It fucks you up for no great advantage.Originally posted by genesius1
Unlike a sax, for example, guitar is often played as a sight-based instrument. I.e, you choose your next note because of its position on the fretboard, not because you have a melody in your head. A seven string screws up your visual accomodation of the instrument and initially leads to some horrible mistakes.
I'm with you. The stuff Korn have done over the years is as innovative guitar playing that I have ever heard. They fucking blow my mind with their creativity, even the last CD without Head was a complete lesson in groove, tone and understated brilliant guitar playing.Originally posted by Eyes
I say innovative ... you guys ever heard of Korn!?
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I just wonder what Head's doing now besides saving starving third-world, cannibalist countries
they're still absolute shit....Originally posted by Plexi Head
I'm with you. The stuff Korn have done over the years is as innovative guitar playing that I have ever heard. They fucking blow my mind with their creativity, even the last CD without Head was a complete lesson in groove, tone and understated brilliant guitar playing.
haven't changed a bit since their first album....
it's more like 'lazy' than 'understated'....
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I had an Ibanez Universe 7-string. I was glad I got it used so I could sell it off again without losing money. I haven´t missed it since!
That said, I recently got a Squier Stratocaster VII as good as new for next to nothing. Strangely enough it plays a lot better than I recall the Ibanez played and appears to have gone through a tougher QC than my p.o.s. Ibanez had.
To summarize, a cheap decently crafted 7 string is a nice gadget to have and fool around with. Spending a grand or more on one is a waste of money!
i didn't know squier made a 7 string
i've got one of their regular 6 stringers and it's a top guitar for the money
might just have to buy one of those to experiment
If memory serves me right...
Didn't the original Jem 7-strings have a extra high string? And not the added low B?
Seems like they made the switch after KORN exploded.....
Got mine for 100 Euros! Shipped and near mint. Some people pay more for a cable!Originally posted by Mr Grimsdale
i didn't know squier made a 7 string
i've got one of their regular 6 stringers and it's a top guitar for the money
might just have to buy one of those to experiment
Mine´s a sparkly black, but otherwise looks like this:
Last edited by kentuckyklira; 08-11-2006 at 03:12 PM.
It's hardly innovative:
Got it one. I remember reading a quote from Vai about how the extra high string kept breaking.Originally posted by Matt White
If memory serves me right...
Didn't the original Jem 7-strings have a extra high string? And not the added low B?
Seems like they made the switch after KORN exploded.....
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I mean, it must have been an .07. It´d either break or cut your finger into slices!Originally posted by Don Corleone
Got it one. I remember reading a quote from Vai about how the extra high string kept breaking.
No.Originally posted by Soul Reaper
they're still absolute shit....
haven't changed a bit since their first album....
it's more like 'lazy' than 'understated'....
No
& No.
I know a lot of the Passion and Warfare stuff has a low B chugging away in the background so the switch must have been made very early.Originally posted by Matt White
If memory serves me right...
Didn't the original Jem 7-strings have a extra high string? And not the added low B?
Seems like they made the switch after KORN exploded.....
Where did you get it?Originally posted by kentuckyklira
Got mine for 100 Euros! Shipped and near mint. Some people pay more for a cable!
Mine´s a sparkly black, but otherwise looks like this:
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The main riff in track 3 'The Animal' definitely does.Originally posted by Mr Grimsdale
I know a lot of the Passion and Warfare stuff has a low B chugging away in the background so the switch must have been made very early.
To me it's all novelty bullshit really and doesn't add anything much.
Once you have mastered 6 strings then move on to 7 but noone has ever mastered 6.
It's the same as adding an octave on a piano. There are good reasons that instruments developed the way they did.
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The track I Would Love Too features a load of low B stuff too.Originally posted by Seshmeister
The main riff in track 3 'The Animal' definitely does.
That sounds a bit rude.Originally posted by Seshmeister
There are good reasons that instruments developed the way they did.
Ooh no missus no!
Originally posted by Seshmeister
The main riff in track 3 'The Animal' definitely does.
To me it's all novelty bullshit really and doesn't add anything much.
Once you have mastered 6 strings then move on to 7 but noone has ever mastered 6.
It's the same as adding an octave on a piano. There are good reasons that instruments developed the way they did.I always thought he was pitch shifting the riff in 'The Animal', it has that pitch shift toneality. Maybe not?Originally posted by Seshmeister
The main riff in track 3 'The Animal' definitely does.
To me it's all novelty bullshit really and doesn't add anything much.
Once you have mastered 6 strings then move on to 7 but noone has ever mastered 6.
It's the same as adding an octave on a piano. There are good reasons that instruments developed the way they did.
live, it's played on a 7 string by a rhythm guitarist
They are pretty cool but I personally have a hard enough time with a 6 string.. LOL..
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I really just don't like Korn....Originally posted by Plexi Head
No.
No
& No.
it may have a 'groove'....but it's just one finger shite....
it may be your sort of thing, but nu metal isn't my sort of thing....it bores me....
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