Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

[lms2]

I keep reading about when Van Halen gets inducted into the Hall of Fame. Isn't that more of an if?

http://www.rockhall.com/hof/process.asp

Here is a link to the page addressing the induction process.

The address to write any questions you may have regarding the matter is:

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation
1290 Avenue of the Americas
New York, New York 10104

(Dave is in New York, the Foundation is in New York.)

A show of support may not help, but certainly wouldn't hurt, would it? Who here as any REAL knowledge of how this shit works?

[Panamark]

Dave obviously thinks its going to happen, he refers to it quite a lot.

[Warham]

It'll happen. After Van Hagar breaks up.

[DavidLeeNatra]

"if eddie can find the building...anything can happen"...DLR 2002

[lms2]

Of course Dave referes to it alot, and I believe he is working towards that end. Just wondering if we could be of any assistance.

[Warham]

Not unless you contacted the hundreds and hundreds of voters.

[lms2]

And would you happen to have that list. Are they spread out across the US or are they a panel there in New York? Same Judges each year or are they randomly selected each year. How many people get nominated each year? If they are not inducted, are they automatically a nominee the following year?

[Warham]

I have no idea who votes, but it's not a small panel. I don't have the list.

[Figs]

If they do get in, surely they should be a lock, that's one induction ceremony I must see.


Just an unrelated side note: I was just there and was looking all over for the Kiss outfits I was sure were there. I finally asked someone and they told me that Stanley and Simmons wanted the Hall to rent the outfits! The Hall doesn't rent anything from what the guy told me. Seems par for the course for Kiss.

[EmpyreLounge44]

i really dont see this happening for a while. I really don't think VH is looked upon that highly by it's peers or by rock writers. we love them but they never really had that critical appeal or anything.

[Figs]

There were a lot of so-so to bad reviews when their stuff first came out, which prompted Dave's "Elvis Costello" remark. I still have a couple of them. I guess we'll see in about a year.

[twonabomber]

Originally posted by lms2
Who here as any REAL knowledge of how this shit works?

all they want you to know is in that link you posted.

[EmpyreLounge44]

yeah im not saying critics opinions mean anything...i just think that is who votes on the stuff. the various rock writers and all and I think you get to vote if you are in the hall. maybe thats just pro sports, who the hell knows. Id be kind of surprised if they are inducted in the next 5 years

[Matt White]

I hope they DON'T get inducted BEFORE they can reconcile their differences. OTHERWISE, it'll be just like whenn CCR got in and Fogerty played with OTHER people.
I mean DAVE would get up their and smoke Van Hagar........
WAIT ONE HOT MINUTE.......
THAT WOULD RULE!!!!!!!!!!!

[EmpyreLounge44]

when VH is inducted, I am pretty sure Sammy goes in as well

[Figs]

Originally posted by EmpyreLounge44
when VH is inducted, I am pretty sure Sammy goes in as well

Sam certainly will. His albums are certainly are NOT the reason they would get in, but Sam will be in. They will perfom "Right Now" and Dave will perform with someone else.

[EmpyreLounge44]

has anyone ever had the two performances like you suggest? i dont really remember that ever happening?

[Figs]

Not that I know of, I was thinking along the lines of Fogerty. I can't see them performing with both singers, but who knows.

[EmpyreLounge44]

yeah i just think fogerty performed but not the other guys from the band with a different singer. it would be really strange if that happened with VH...only fitting that they would make a joke out of the whole thing and do something like two different performances.

[Warham]

"Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria considered includes the influence and significance of the artist's contribution to the development and perpetuation of producers, disc jockeys, record company executives, journalists and other industry professionals. The Foundation's nominating committee, composed of rock and roll historians, selects 5-7 nominees each year in the artist or performing category. Ballots are sent to an international voting body of about 1,000 rock experts. Those performers who receive the highest number and more than 50% of votes are inducted."

[EmpyreLounge44]

i wanna be a rock expert...i wonder how much you have to pay to be a "rock expert"

[lms2]

I guess I misunderstood that part about the 5-7 as being the number of performers inducted, not nominated.

Van Halen has two songs in the 500 songs that shaped Rock and Roll History Hall of Fame...

you guessed it Dreams and Right Now! (not, okay, I am kidding)

Running with the Devil and Jump.

Two is not alot, for all the songs classic Van Halen had that kicked ass, but it is two; and that is worth something. A lot of past inductees only had 1.

Another thing I am curious about is how Dave would fare on his own. They have a category for back up musicians/song writers, etc. but it is more for little known people-or at least that is the way it is phrased there.

[Warham]

Dave can only make it as a performer.

[lms2]

Why a "front man" cant make it as an individual without the band. David's contribution goes way deeper than spandex and bleach blonde hair. He has made many behind the scenes contributions that the average joe just doesn't know about, and in that respect, I think he should qualify. The stage show, the album, those are just the end result. What shapes rock and roll is what goes into the music before the public is ever exposed to it.

[Vanstonica]

What would be great is if Van Halen gets inducted, and then Dave pulls a Fogerty and jams with an all-star group.

$10 says that if Van Halen does get inducted, Eddie is a no show. The guy seems to be shutting himself off from the world around him a little more each day.

On a side note, as much as I'd love to see it happen, I don't think they'll get in on their first try. The "well-reviewed" guys like George Harrison can slide in, but if AC/DC isn't in yet, I don't think Van Halen has a chance with the voters.

[EmpyreLounge44]

Vanstonica - ACDC is in...inducted in 2003.

DLR and Sam can only be inducted as performers with Van Halen. Neither of them have a shot in hell as a solo artist.

[Vanstonica]

oops. Sorry. I meant Lynyrd Skynyrd....a group that is worshiped by their fans, but has a bad rap in the press.