They've got Mel Kiper's 1st round projection in the 2004 draft in there.....
They've got Mel Kiper's 1st round projection in the 2004 draft in there.....
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I'll try to copy & paste it in here..
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1. San Diego Chargers: Eli Manning, QB, Ole Miss
Drew Brees has not proven himself as a player who will ultimately be a starter in the NFL, and while the Chargers also have needs at OT, WR, DT and LB, passing up a blue-chip quarterback like Manning is tough to do, especially considering they passed on Michael Vick a couple years ago.
Larry Fitzgerald has the hands and body control to make the tough catches.
2. Oakland Raiders: *Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Pittsburgh
The Raiders certainly could use a quarterback, with Rich Gannon getting up there in age, but Fitzgerald would be a good complement to the big, athletic Jerry Porter at wideout. There is also need at DL and S, but Fitzgerald has all the skills you look for in a receiver.
3. Arizona Cardinals: *Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Miami-Ohio
Josh McCown is an adequate QB, but Roethlisberger will give new coach Dennis Green a potential star. DL is also a need area, but no linemen are worthy of the No. 3 pick, so the Cardinals would do well to upgrade the most important position on the field.
4. New York Giants: Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa
Getting a player like Gallery -- the prototype left tackle -- would be a huge help to QB Kerry Collins, who was beaten up big-time this season. The Giants also need help along the DL and at S, but Gallery will step in immediately and fill a big hole.
5. Washington Redskins: *Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami-Fla.
The TE position is always important in a Joe Gibbs offense, and Winslow will give the Redskins a multi-dimensional talent at that position, one that could be utilized creatively by Gibbs and his staff. DL and RB are also need positions in Washington, but it will be hard to pass up an athlete like Winslow at this spot.
6. Detroit Lions: *Sean Taylor, S, Miami-Fla.
The Lions need to get the best impact player still on the board at either WR, RB, DE, CB or S, and Taylor looks to be that guy. Taylor is to the safety position at Miami what Ray Lewis was to the MLB spot and has tremendous toughness.
7. Atlanta Falcons: *Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma
DT, OT, CB and WR are the need areas for the Falcons, and Harris wreaks havoc behind the line of scrimmage. He can cause problems for opposing QBs and was constantly triple-teamed in college.
8. Cleveland Browns: *Chris Gamble, CB, Ohio State
Gamble might be a slight reach here, but his upside is tremendous, and he capped his college career with a terrific game in Ohio State's Fiesta Bowl win over Kansas State. A roll of the dice, but if he can be coached up and improve his cover skills Gamble could be an impact player down the road.
9. Jacksonville Jaguars: Roy Williams, WR, Texas
The Jags need a complement to Jimmy Smith at wideout, and a reliable No. 2 option would certainly help the development of QB Byron Leftwich. Jacksonville also has needs at CB and DE.
10. Houston Texans: *Kenechi Udeze, DE, USC
A pass-rusher is the No. 1 need in Houston, and Udeze fits the mold. Originally a DT, Udeze has developed into a terrific strong-side DE and is ideally suited to the 3-4 scheme with his rush skills and ability to hold up against the run.
11. Pittsburgh Steelers: Dunta Robinson, CB, South Carolina
The Steelers' secondary has been torched in recent years and Robinson is definitely worthy of a high pick. He is fundamentally sound and prepared to step in and become an immediate starter.
12. New York Jets: Jonathan Vilma, LB, Miami-Fla.
New York definitely needs help at WR and CB, but Vilma would give the Jets speed, athleticism and instincts to boost their LB corps.
13. Buffalo Bills: Will Smith, DE, Ohio State
A perfect fit. Smith would be the best player available at this point in the first round and fill a big-time need for the Bills, who could also use help at CB or WR.
14. Chicago Bears: *Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech
Jones has size, breakaway speed and the ability to catch and block. He would be a good complement to Anthony Thomas, who is not quite the home run hitter Jones could be. The Bears might also look to upgrade at WR, DT or DB.
15. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: *Shawn Andrews, OT, Arkansas
Andrews is a devastating run blocker who is also light on his feet and would upgrade the RT position dramatically for the Bucs. WR and TE are also areas of need in Tampa
only can paste up to # 15..sorry-
somehow it wont let me past it.
tried 4x :confused:
Can you highlight #16 thru #32 and paste it in another post?
finally here it is..
16. San Francisco 49ers: *Vince Wilfork, DT, Miami-Fla.
With his ability to stuff the run and also explode upfield, Wilfork is in the mold of current NFL DT Keith Traylor. Wilfork would solidify a unit that had problems all season long.
17. Cincinnati Bengals: *Randy Starks, DT, Maryland
Coach Marvin Lewis needs a big presence in the middle of the defensive front, and Starks is a guy who can make plays. He had 14½ tackles for loss last season and is very strong with great athletic ability. Starks is definitely a good fit and has tremendous potential.
18. New Orleans Saints: Will Poole, CB, USC
The Saints passed on Marcus Trufant last year and still need help in the secondary. Poole turned into a shutdown corner when he became a starter three games into the season and could turn into a special player.
19. Minnesota Vikings: D.J. Williams, OLB, Miami-Fla.
Minnesota needs some athletic ability on the outside of its defense, and former FB Williams has that. He is not as instinctive as teammate Jonathan Vilma, but with his speed and overall physical ability, Williams would give the Vikings a solid presence at OLB.
20. Miami Dolphins: J.P. Losman, QB, Tulane
With Jay Fiedler and Brian Griese not looking like the long-term answer at QB, the Dolphins could upgrade here with Losman. He has a quick release, mobility and a strong arm. Losman got beat up at Tulane thanks to a terrible supporting cast but is ideally suited to an NFL offense.
21. New England Patriots (from Baltimore): *Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon State
The Pats did not run the ball consistently this season and need a quality RB to take some pressure off Tom Brady and the short passing game. Jackson has size and can bounce it to the outside as well as being an excellent receiver out of the backfield.
22. Dallas Cowboys: Chris Perry, RB, Michigan
Troy Hambrick does not look like the answer at RB, and Perry is the kind of all-around back Cowboys coach Bill Parcells likes. Perry is multi-talented, a good short-yardage runner, has hands out of the backfield and is a very good blocker. A complete back who can be on the field every down.
23. Seattle Seahawks: Dwan Edwards, DT, Oregon State
Seattle had problems stopping the run and getting pressure on the QB, so Edwards would be a big help. He played in the shadow of some more-heralded teammates but had a heck of a career and would be a significant upgrade.
24. Denver Broncos: Ben Troupe, TE, Florida
Shannon Sharpe is near the end of the road and Troupe is a TE in the Sharpe mold. Troupe can run, catch and block and his combination of size and speed is impressive. The Broncos might also look for a WR or CB here.
25. Green Bay: *Antwan Odom, DE, Alabama
Alabama lost three starters on the DL before last season, yet Odom still managed to get eight sacks despite being the focus of opposing offenses up front. He has tremendous size and potential and would give the Packers a three-down DE who can play the run and the pass. Green Bay could also look for a QB or OLB.
26. St. Louis Rams: *DeAngelo Hall, CB, Virginia Tech
A multi-talented player, Hall has great recovery speed as a CB and could significantly upgrade the punt return game. OG and TE are also need positions for the Rams.
27. Tennessee Titans: Vernon Carey, OL, Miami-Fla.
The Titans need a versatile lineman, and Carey played both guard and both tackle positions while at Miami. He would give the Titans some much-needed flexibility along the offensive front.
28. Kansas City Chiefs: Keith Smith, CB, McNeese State
The Chiefs had all kinds of match-up problems in their playoff loss to the Colts. Smith had a great career at the Division I-AA level and looks ready to step up to the NFL level. Reminiscent of former McNeese and NFL CB Leonard Smith (no relation).
29. Philadelphia Eagles: *Reggie Williams, WR, Washington
The Eagles showed how badly they need a WR in their loss to the Panthers in the NFC championship game, and Williams is a big, fast target who would be an upgrade over any wideout currently on the roster.
30. Indianapolis Colts: Karlos Dansby, OLB, Auburn
The Colts need a complete OLB, and Dansby is just that. Speed and athleticism make blitzing off the edge his forte, and Dansby would give Indianapolis a good outside pass rusher and upgrade that area of the defense.
31. Carolina Panthers: *Michael Clayton, WR, LSU
Clayton has size and can make the difficult catch look easy. He showed his toughness by playing special teams and some at safety in college and would be a great bargain at this point in the first round. The Panthers also need LB help.
32. New England Patriots: Michael Jenkins, WR, Ohio State
The Patriots have some undersized receivers in Deion Branch, Troy Brown and David Givens, and Jenkins would give them the big target they lack. He is a complete player who will block downfield and make unselfish plays.
Thanks RBW.....
That wasn't the guy I was thinking of at #11 for the Stillers, but who knows what'll happen between now and then.....
You know Va...I wouldn't take him...I don't think that high...
but Gamble is a Cowher type guy...
gets fired up...and can play several positions...as well as return kicks...
I think Pittsburgh can get Rivers in the second round...I'm telling you...this guy is going to be a great qb...
he has a great make up...but what the fuck do I know...
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In the 2nd round ?? I bet he's gone by then bro...
45th pick, gonna be a stretch...
I'll say this though...
IF he was still around then, they'd be stupid not to grab him....
Phillip Rivers is going to be a fucking star.
He is so underrated.
DLR7884
He's gonna sneak up the boards, even though he's projected pretty low right now.
Originally Posted by WARF:
DLR7884 - This guy is one bad ass sonafabitch... I've seen him destroy peoples posting careers in a single sentence.
Honestly who the fuck cares what Mel Kiper has to say. I don't know if he still does it, but he used to put out a preview book for like $15 for the college draft each year and morons used to buy it.
I remember one weekend, ESPN was giving a free preview of their Insider service, and it convinced me that it was a big waste of money.
You gotta admit Lou, the guy is pretty much on the mark with his picks....
And I think his book is around 25 clams now....
As far as Insider access, ya I agree, pretty much a waste....
He's on mark maybe, but you'll find out eventually. I'd certainly never pay, directly or indirectly, for anyone's preview.
There are those who've said "who the hell is Mel Kiper Jr. ??" when Mel doesn't agree with a pick they've made, case in point the Colts a while back....
Was that when they picked Trev Alberts ??
Mel got the last laugh for sure on that one....
Yeah, I wouldn't pay for the book, but the draft is what he does year-round.... That's why his opinion is so valued....
You guys may be right about the insider, but mines for free..
As for the Draft, i dont see the Bears going for a back.
I see them going lineman on the O or the D first, its a must
for this new regime & the Qb needs protection the bears dont have now. Kiper is sooo over rated-
One way or another, free agent & a draft pick, our #1 wont
be a back, ge was way off last year(bears)..lol
I've got no problem with Kiper...good for him making money on one day in the year...has a pretty good radio show as well...
back to Pittsburgh...
it depends on how you look at it...
I don't see many teams picking qb's early...
it will be interesting though after Rivers looked good over the weekend in the blue/gray...or whatever the fuck it was...
but his combines will suck...so we'll see...
there will be three qb's rated ahead of him...
Eli...that fucker from Tulane...and someone else...
I'd have Rivers right behind manning...but we'll see...
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