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    Thumbs up Ted Nugent

    Anybody else here like the Motor City Madman?? He's very underrated imo, and can wail on his guitar. The nuge Rocks!!
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    Yeah, he always is a show. On stage or an interview. Always sounds like he's frickin' tooted up on coke but swears he's as clean as new fallen snow. Can't ever accuse the man of being a lying bastard like the sistahs, that's for sure!
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    Well, they say if you dont have anything nice to say about a person, you shouldnt say anything at all.
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    And yet, I said something.

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    But really, it was nothing.

    Aw fuckit ! The nuge does *NOTHING* for me and is a cunt cos he shoots defenceless animals.

    Before you get all pinko fairy hippy on me, I was born on a farm and
    appreciate that animals get killed to keep us alive.
    Killing for necessary food is one thing, but killing for the sake
    of killing?

    Well that sucks as much as "Cat scratch Fever" and soliciting blowjobs from 14 year old girls..

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    Ted Nugent is a rock legend in his own right who is a great rock guitarist & great performer with few equals who deserves to be inducted in to the RNRHOF in Cleveland but he's highly underrated for some reason.
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    Ted Who ??!?
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    I was going to say Nugent is ok in my book because he archery hunts...then Panamark kinda' took the steam outta' that one! However, Panamark...I would respectfully submit Nugent doesn't kill simply for sport. It is documented he either eats what he kills or donates it to those with a need (shelters, etc...things of that nature). He is someone at the forefront of NOT killing simply for sport...I am going to guess you will reference his 'kills' that are on video. Personally, that doesn't offend me in the least...I actually rather enjoy it. I don't, however, believe that means anything at all other than it is on tape...
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    Ted has made no secret of his love for the hunt. However, he has always maintained that he and his family and friends eat everything he kills. He feels that although animals can show some signs of intelligence, it is unreasonable to grant them the same rights we enjoy as humans.

    Also, I have a copy of his interview in American Thunder Magazine, june/july '04. I'd be happy to share it if anyone's interested.

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    Originally posted by Panamark
    But really, it was nothing.

    Aw fuckit ! The nuge does *NOTHING* for me and is a cunt cos he shoots defenceless animals.

    Before you get all pinko fairy hippy on me, I was born on a farm and
    appreciate that animals get killed to keep us alive.
    Killing for necessary food is one thing, but killing for the sake
    of killing?

    Well that sucks as much as "Cat scratch Fever" and soliciting blowjobs from 14 year old girls..
    LOL I agree with most of what you said. But I do like most of his tunes and although his guitar playing is generic, does shoot a bolt through ya-
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    Originally posted by Panamark

    Before you get all pinko fairy hippy on me
    Are you calling me names?

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    He's the man, plain and simple. Nothing fancy, just rockin out with your cock out, gotta love it!!
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    Originally posted by Big Troubles
    Are you calling me names?
    NO!

    That was a broader reference to the anticipated backlash.

    It makes me feel better to read that "THE NUGE" eats or
    donates some of the defenceless animals he kills.

    However, I have read of more than one occasion of "THE NUGE"
    killing for the sake of "FUN" So the "THE NUGE" is now officially
    "THE CUNT"

    And Yankeerose, the explanation of recognizing intelligence
    in animals makes his actions even worse.

    Go back in time when mankind had to hunt to stay alive,
    its a kill that was necessary to stay alive. And something
    an ex country boy (myself) understands and appreciates
    as part of the necessity of life.. But that was literally life
    or death for man !!!


    But dont give me that shit in relation to "THE NUGE". That
    fucker has more than enough money to buy food, he doesnt
    have to kill animals. He does so because he enjoys killing
    a living creature. How do you defend such actions ? Easy,
    you just reword it to say "The thrill of the hunt"

    Case closed, your honor...

    (But I do feel better to know that some proportion of the innocent creatures
    he slaughters, are not just left to decay at the point of the murder)


    Hey "THE NUGE" how about taking out a few tin cans or clay pigeons ?
    Oh yeah, they are not living creatures (my bad)

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    Ted nugent was my first concert back in 1980,scream dream's tour what a great show.Pat Travers was the opening and Girls with Phil collens i think, just before he joigned Def Leppard!
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    Ted rocks.
    Those that don’t understand the moment of truth for a trophy buck, never will.

    If some of our teenage thrill seeker really want to go out and get a thrill.
    Let them go up into the north west and let them tangle with a Grizzly bear
    or Polar bear or brown bear and get that effect that will cleanse the soul. Fred Bear
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    Originally posted by Panamark
    NO!

    That was a broader reference to the anticipated backlash.

    It makes me feel better to read that "THE NUGE" eats or
    donates some of the defenceless animals he kills.

    However, I have read of more than one occasion of "THE NUGE"
    killing for the sake of "FUN" So the "THE NUGE" is now officially
    "THE CUNT"

    And Yankeerose, the explanation of recognizing intelligence
    in animals makes his actions even worse.

    Go back in time when mankind had to hunt to stay alive,
    its a kill that was necessary to stay alive. And something
    an ex country boy (myself) understands and appreciates
    as part of the necessity of life.. But that was literally life
    or death for man !!!


    But dont give me that shit in relation to "THE NUGE". That
    fucker has more than enough money to buy food, he doesnt
    have to kill animals. He does so because he enjoys killing
    a living creature. How do you defend such actions ? Easy,
    you just reword it to say "The thrill of the hunt"

    Case closed, your honor...

    (But I do feel better to know that some proportion of the innocent creatures
    he slaughters, are not just left to decay at the point of the murder)


    Hey "THE NUGE" how about taking out a few tin cans or clay pigeons ?
    Oh yeah, they are not living creatures (my bad)
    You are one angry Aussie. But that was well said. I am not a gun lover or weapons lover of any kind. I hate killing animals, unless NEEDED for survival- I went camping a few weekends ago, and someone with me brought a pellet gun. (power of a .22) He shot everything in sight. Trees. Bottles, bottlecaps, cans, tried for birds, he shot into the air, staright up, and even shot a fish. A fucking fish?! Guns in the wrong hands= morons and moronic irreversable, regrettable situations. Im on the other side of the spectrum. But as for the "Nuge", he's still a good rock n roller. Next time he goes cunting, lets give the animals a gun and call it a real sport. Watch how fat Teddy runs out of that bush!

    I reported your bad behavoir Pana. I figured I owed you one from a LONG time ago.

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    Oh yeah, Ted jams at Hagar shows all the time. Doesnt that make him a sheep?
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    Ah ! I understand now. You fucking rapist !!

    I love the notion of the animal having defence.
    That fooking rocks.. In fact we should genetically engineer
    animals that can kill a human from hundreds of yards away
    with a poisonous dart or some shit, then let "the hunters"
    loose in the bush with them..
    An animal that can sense and smell a human from a long
    distance....

    Equal terms. Go hunting after that YOU FUCKING COWARDS !

    "THE NUGE" sucks........

    Sorry, but its true.... Ive heard his music too.. And its Crap..
    NUGE fans, come out, come out wherever you are !
    Im here..

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    Originally posted by jacksmar
    Ted rocks.
    Those that don’t understand the moment of truth for a trophy buck, never will.

    If some of our teenage thrill seeker really want to go out and get a thrill.
    Let them go up into the north west and let them tangle with a Grizzly bear
    or Polar bear or brown bear and get that effect that will cleanse the soul. Fred Bear
    Yes, Ive had the moment of truth, drank the blood. Ive shot wild pigs, creatures that at least had a minute chance of causing some damage to me in their desperate chase to save their own lives. Before I blew
    their brains with a 303 rifle..... But one day (after much killing, I had
    my moment of truth)

    The moment of truth to me was killing sucks. You say I will never
    understand this ? You are fucking right.....

    Promise me you will at least honor the animal and feed your
    family. Dont let it rot where you murdered it. Better still, shoot
    tin cans and spend $5 to buy some steaks from your local
    supermarket....

    Live and let Live..... MOTHERFUCKERS !

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    Originally posted by SNIPER
    Oh yeah, Ted jams at Hagar shows all the time. Doesnt that make him a sheep?
    So Ted jams with Spammy too ???

    Oh yeah... he is great

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    Originally posted by jacksmar
    Ted rocks.
    Those that don’t understand the moment of truth for a trophy buck, never will.

    If some of our teenage thrill seeker really want to go out and get a thrill.
    Let them go up into the north west and let them tangle with a Grizzly bear
    or Polar bear or brown bear and get that effect that will cleanse the soul. Fred Bear
    sorry jacksmar,
    but you're a fucking idiot. 'trophy kill'?
    you're fucking kidding.
    if you want a thrill, pal, play
    rugby league football.

    i have to agree w/ panamark
    on this one, and it's not cause we're
    countrymen. we grew up hunting, but we
    choose not to. state of the art firepower
    against animals is wimpy.

    ted nugent is a no talent hack, a redneck pig,
    a fuckwit. a waste of oxygen. anyone who tolerates
    his ridiculous excuse for 'music' is a dickhead.
    i'll challenge him to a bareknuckle.

    no more votes for me!!
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    btw, i'm a super middleweight
    i'd do him in 2 rounds.....

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    Originally posted by Panamark
    Yes, Ive had the moment of truth, drank the blood. Ive shot wild pigs, creatures that at least had a minute chance of causing some damage to me in their desperate chase to save their own lives. Before I blew
    their brains with a 303 rifle..... But one day (after much killing, I had
    my moment of truth)

    The moment of truth to me was killing sucks. You say I will never
    understand this ? You are fucking right.....

    Promise me you will at least honor the animal and feed your
    family. Dont let it rot where you murdered it. Better still, shoot
    tin cans and spend $5 to buy some steaks from your local
    supermarket....

    Live and let Live..... MOTHERFUCKERS !
    Panamark...

    This is the first time since I've been here that I believe I disagree with you on something. What is the difference if I go into the woods and kill an animal and put it in my freezer to consumer at a later date...or...I go into the grocery store and buy a steak for dinner? The beef that I would be eating didn't arrive there because the cow just fell over and died one day while happily chewing it's cud, you know! Those animals are KILLED as well. I know, I know...you will probably say they are raised for that purpose. I say, what is the difference? Either way, to me at least, it's an animal that was killed so I could eat it to survive.

    As for someone who would shoot an animal and leave it where it dropped to rot...well, that person is not a 'hunter' in any sense of the word. That's a senseless killing. I have no time for that type and cannot be grouped into their category, either. That's a defenseless action. Period. I don't subscribe to that theory. However, I will head into the woods in the near future in pursuit of yet another deer for my freezer (and it won't be with 'state of the art firepower' as ashstralia called it...it will be with a bow where my effective range ends at 30 yards...90 feet...hardly hi-tech).

    It's an interesting debate where people are fairly polarized at opposite ends of the spectrum. There isn't much middle ground to this issue...

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    Originally posted by TLR
    Panamark...

    This is the first time since I've been here that I believe I disagree with you on something. What is the difference if I go into the woods and kill an animal and put it in my freezer to consumer at a later date...or...I go into the grocery store and buy a steak for dinner? The beef that I would be eating didn't arrive there because the cow just fell over and died one day while happily chewing it's cud, you know! Those animals are KILLED as well. I know, I know...you will probably say they are raised for that purpose. I say, what is the difference? Either way, to me at least, it's an animal that was killed so I could eat it to survive.

    As for someone who would shoot an animal and leave it where it dropped to rot...well, that person is not a 'hunter' in any sense of the word. That's a senseless killing. I have no time for that type and cannot be grouped into their category, either. That's a defenseless action. Period. I don't subscribe to that theory. However, I will head into the woods in the near future in pursuit of yet another deer for my freezer (and it won't be with 'state of the art firepower' as ashstralia called it...it will be with a bow where my effective range ends at 30 yards...90 feet...hardly hi-tech).

    It's an interesting debate where people are fairly polarized at opposite ends of the spectrum. There isn't much middle ground to this issue...
    TLR,

    If you genuinely live off the land, and hunt to support your family. I have no problem with this. I said this previously.

    I have problems with millionaires who can easily afford food, yet
    decide to take the defencless lives of animals. Bloodsport, unless
    for legitimate reasons is totally fucked up. Thats my point. I know
    "THE NUGE" is into that shit. Dont worry, we have our share of redneck
    fuckwit hunters that go outback and kill for the sake of killing.
    Its an evil thing.

    But to genuinely provide food for your family, I totally understand this.

    To get your dick hard firing high tech rifles, please, tin cans and other non-living targets are sufficient to display your accuracy and prowess.

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    Originally posted by Panamark
    TLR,

    If you genuinely live off the land, and hunt to support your family. I have no problem with this. I said this previously.

    I have problems with millionaires who can easily afford food, yet
    decide to take the defencless lives of animals. Bloodsport, unless
    for legitimate reasons is totally fucked up. Thats my point. I know
    "THE NUGE" is into that shit. Dont worry, we have our share of redneck
    fuckwit hunters that go outback and kill for the sake of killing.
    Its an evil thing.

    But to genuinely provide food for your family, I totally understand this.

    To get your dick hard firing high tech rifles, please, tin cans and other non-living targets are sufficient to display your accuracy and prowess.
    Ok, cool...we're pretty much on the same page again, I think...

    I can't tolerate people who kill just for the sake of killing...I am not one of the people who assigns human emotions to a whitetail deer, a wild boar, etc...but, killing them just to kill them is senseless, at best...

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    Interesting discussion guys. I don't condone killing for sport, but I think killing a deer with a bow and arrow or a rifle is much more humane than killing a cow with a damn bolt gun.

    If any of you have ever acutally been to a processing plant, you know what I'm talking about.

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    Ive been to one in Ontario and it isn't pretty, you're right. But the point is, Does he HAVE to kill it for food or is it sport? Answer is, he is rich and killing living creatures for the fuck of it. You dont find it a bit twisted? Just the fact that we kill Deer, Moose and Bear is sad, because everyone knows that a hamburger or T Bone from a cow is 10x better. IMO. Pig or Moose? lol Pass me the bacon. Killing is killing, but we lost our guidance of ration a bit. We eat, and survive off of vegetables and fish. Thats it. That is all that is necassary to live. Beyond that, its a sport and thrill or its a gorge on tastey hams & greasy chickens. We need some sort of boundry for what is humane and what is not. Because if everyone had a gun and followed no boundries; we'd have more problems than running out of game to eat.

    LOL That was the thought of the day.

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    Just because he can afford to buy the best doesn't mean he has to. I'm not saying the man's perfect, but I will defend his right to hunt for food to feed his family. Why should he be lazy and just buy it when he enjoys all the fresh air, exercise, and the satisfaction of seeing his family consuming a meal he provided for them. People can defend themselves, which makes them predictable. Animals are completely unpredictable, making them a much harder target. One must work harder to outwit an animal, therefore, the victory means more simply by virtue of having had to earn it. As for the "high-tech weaponry"...almost all of the time, THE NUGE hunts with a bow and arrow.
    I love you PanaMark, you know that, but I disagree with you on this one. The fact that he's rich is besides the point...Things that you earn mean more than things that you just buy. It's a spoiled and somewhat lazy point of view that dictates buying instead of earning.
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    This is war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    First and foremost BT yer a hypocrite, guess fishing is a lot better than shooting a Moose/Bear/Deer/ Turkey? And waht was that you said about MOOSE steaks a while ago?
    This coming from a guy who lives in a town where 90% of the people hunt and fish.
    First let me start off by saying that I used to like The Whackmaster, until I found out that he is a friend of spams and that he plays/opens up for the wabo.........
    Nuff said. Now to the topic at hand.
    The Nug does not KILL for sport. Everything he HARVESTS is used and I mean everything. He is outspoken about his love for the hunt and promotes it as best as he can do you honestly think that he would do anything wrong or unorthodox? No he won't he is too smart of a man.
    I am the same way. You see if I don't eat it, guess what you fuckin misinformed assholes, I DON"T KILL IT(bow/rifle) only 1% of the hunting community are BEERDRINKING POACHERS
    I've been hunting for 20yrs, and to this day I respect wildlife the same way I did when I was a kid growing up. I have also passed this tradition on to my kids the same way my Dad did to me.
    I spend countless hours in the bush HELPING wildlife(putting out feed in the winter, cutting trees for new growth, cleaning streams and river beds and the list goes on).
    What do you fuckin assholes do when ti comes time to helping wildlife....I'll tell you NOTHING.
    You sit behind computers bitching and complaining about us MEN AND WOMEN who KILL, etc etc.
    So until you actually help out with the conservation end of things shut yer FUCKIN TRAPS before I let loose a TEKAN Mechanical into your fat rumps.
    Oh and buy the way WILD MEAT is a lot better than that hormone/steriod/growth agent crap you call meat!!!!!!!!
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    All my hunting friends eat what they kill. Moose is right only a tiny percent of hunters kill for sport.

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    And before I forget I still like the Nug's stuff.
    Stranglehold-Classic!

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    Originally posted by Big Troubles
    Ive been to one in Ontario and it isn't pretty, you're right. But the point is, Does he HAVE to kill it for food or is it sport? Answer is, he is rich and killing living creatures for the fuck of it. You dont find it a bit twisted? Just the fact that we kill Deer, Moose and Bear is sad, because everyone knows that a hamburger or T Bone from a cow is 10x better. IMO. Pig or Moose? lol Pass me the bacon. Killing is killing, but we lost our guidance of ration a bit. We eat, and survive off of vegetables and fish. Thats it. That is all that is necassary to live. Beyond that, its a sport and thrill or its a gorge on tastey hams & greasy chickens. We need some sort of boundry for what is humane and what is not. Because if everyone had a gun and followed no boundries; we'd have more problems than running out of game to eat.

    LOL That was the thought of the day.
    No, I don't find it twisted at all. I just don't understand how people can condone lining cows up in a processing line and blowing their head off with a bolt gun, or eat chicken considering the processing plant they go through. But yet, if a man (or woman) goes in the woods, hunts a wild animal and brings it home to feed their family, they are considered inhumane.

    If we are going on your line of thought, that would could survive without it (which you are correct, we could), I'd say shut down the commercialization of it and make it where if you want a fish, go catch it. If you want a steak, go hunt a deer or round up a cow off of your ranch.

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    Originally posted by YankeeRose
    Just because he can afford to buy the best doesn't mean he has to. I'm not saying the man's perfect, but I will defend his right to hunt for food to feed his family. Why should he be lazy and just buy it when he enjoys all the fresh air, exercise, and the satisfaction of seeing his family consuming a meal he provided for them. People can defend themselves, which makes them predictable. Animals are completely unpredictable, making them a much harder target. One must work harder to outwit an animal, therefore, the victory means more simply by virtue of having had to earn it. As for the "high-tech weaponry"...almost all of the time, THE NUGE hunts with a bow and arrow.
    I love you PanaMark, you know that, but I disagree with you on this one. The fact that he's rich is besides the point...Things that you earn mean more than things that you just buy. It's a spoiled and somewhat lazy point of view that dictates buying instead of earning.
    G'day Rose,

    I totally respect the hunters who do so out of necessity. At least the creature died for a reason.

    "THE NUGE" can afford as much dead animal as he wants. Why does he have to create more ?? If "THE NUGE" was a peniless hunter whose existance relied on hunting, I would respect "THE NUGE".

    It makes me sick justifying this as sport. It doesnt take us long to
    learn how a particular animal runs and hides. Our superior
    intellect gives us that power to figure shit like that out, very
    quickly. Totally unfair advantage, its not sport, its murder.

    I used to hunt. It sickens me now. If you can buy an already killed
    animal, why kill another ??

    I respect the comments that "THE NUGE" only ever uses a bow
    and arrow. That gives me hope that some of these innocent
    creatures may survive. Hopefully even those where he misses the
    "kill zone" and just leaves maimed to struggle in the wilderness..

    You wanna shoot arrows, theres plenty of non living targets.
    There is no way to justify this.
    Unless there is a genuine need for the hunters survival.

    I have said in almost every response in this thread that I respect
    the genuine hunter. Im glad to see the majority of us agree on this.
    Killing anything for no reason is evil.

    Jusify that !

    And yes I respect your opinion too

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    Originally posted by moose
    This is war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    First and foremost BT yer a hypocrite, guess fishing is a lot better than shooting a Moose/Bear/Deer/ Turkey? And waht was that you said about MOOSE steaks a while ago?
    This coming from a guy who lives in a town where 90% of the people hunt and fish.
    First let me start off by saying that I used to like The Whackmaster, until I found out that he is a friend of spams and that he plays/opens up for the wabo.........
    Nuff said. Now to the topic at hand.
    The Nug does not KILL for sport. Everything he HARVESTS is used and I mean everything. He is outspoken about his love for the hunt and promotes it as best as he can do you honestly think that he would do anything wrong or unorthodox? No he won't he is too smart of a man.
    I am the same way. You see if I don't eat it, guess what you fuckin misinformed assholes, I DON"T KILL IT(bow/rifle) only 1% of the hunting community are BEERDRINKING POACHERS
    I've been hunting for 20yrs, and to this day I respect wildlife the same way I did when I was a kid growing up. I have also passed this tradition on to my kids the same way my Dad did to me.
    I spend countless hours in the bush HELPING wildlife(putting out feed in the winter, cutting trees for new growth, cleaning streams and river beds and the list goes on).
    What do you fuckin assholes do when ti comes time to helping wildlife....I'll tell you NOTHING.
    You sit behind computers bitching and complaining about us MEN AND WOMEN who KILL, etc etc.
    So until you actually help out with the conservation end of things shut yer FUCKIN TRAPS before I let loose a TEKAN Mechanical into your fat rumps.
    Oh and buy the way WILD MEAT is a lot better than that hormone/steriod/growth agent crap you call meat!!!!!!!!
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    Hey fish, but I also toss them back. Ive eaten most wild game through someone who has shot them themselves and ended up with extra. Ive never shot a thing. EVER. My fav. fish is Rainbow Trout. Know where a good spot is? Sobey's. They keep it on ice next to the lobster.

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    Originally posted by Big Troubles
    Hey fish, but I also toss them back. Ive eaten most wild game through someone who has shot them themselves and ended up with extra. Ive never shot a thing. EVER. My fav. fish is Rainbow Trout. Know where a good spot is? Sobey's. They keep it on ice next to the lobster.
    Guess you don't know about that sweet little spot off of Gramp's road
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    Originally posted by Panamark
    If you can buy an already killed animal, why kill another ??
    I just can't understand this, so let me try to get this straight. If it went through the line, is packaged up and available at you local supermarket, it's OK to eat a dead animal. But to kill one to eat isn't? I don't think either one of them is necessarily wrong, but if had had to pick one, the prior seems very inhumane.

    It makes me sick justifying this as sport. It doesnt take us long to learn how a particular animal runs and hides.
    True, that what makes them easy to herd into the plants, but since they are already dead when the y get to you, it's OK, apparently. At least they have a fighting chance in the wild.

    Ever eat veal? I haven't. I'll be damned if I'm gonna eat from an animal that was raised literally in a box just to keep the meat tender and slaughtered in a processing plant, but again, it's dead when it gets to you, so it's OK?

    Killing anything for no reason is evil.
    I agree, I guess we have different perspectives on what a reason is though.

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    You have totally misunderstood me. Sure the food we buy from the supermarket is killed animal. But why kill another, if this is already available, and affordable ?

    Do you see my point ?

    "True, that what makes them easy to herd into the plants, but since they are already dead when the y get to you, it's OK, apparently. At least they have a fighting chance in the wild. "

    I dont fully understand what you are saying here. Man has eaten
    animals forever, I dont deny that. I also respect genuine hunters
    in need. (again, I say this)

    *BUT* why the need to go out and kill, if you dont have to ?

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    I have been reading this thread for a while now. I had wisely decided to keep my opinions to myself, but I am such a sharing person. I gotta post.

    Processed Beef vs. Wild Game

    An animal, such as a cow, that is raised for food is no less of an animal than a deer, or any other wild game animal. It is at a big disadvantage in the killing scheme of things though.

    Wild Game. In the wild, an animal develops its instincts, and has a fighting chance. The life of a wild animal is spent in freedom. The animal has the opportunity to come and go as it pleases, to find a mate, to raise offspring. All things are born and all things die. The threat to animals in the wild is so small that if it were not for hunters, these animals would become overpopulated, and they begin starving to death, and wreaking havoc on residential areas. Hunting is a regulated sport. There is a hunting season, a limit on how many animals you can kill, and the manner in which you can kill them. Hunters...the good ones... buy licenses, and that money is used to support the wild life programs set out to help these animals. Of course there are bad hunters as well. Some people abuse the rights and privileges that good hunters follow. They are the exception and not the rule. They are not respected by the "hunting community" but seen as the low lifes they are. If and when they are caught, they are punished by law.

    When a man hunts an animal, he respects thats animal. When a man takes a life, he respects that life. Death is not pretty, but it is a fact of life. All creatures will die. When a man eats a steak, killed and cleaned by his own hand, he remembers that life and respects that life.

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    Domesticated Animals.

    When an animal is raised by humans, for human consumption. It has no life. It eats what it is given to eat, breeds, when man wants it to breed. But it is still an animal. It has a brain, and can think. It can feel pain. Where is the joy for this animal in life.

    When a domesticated animal reaches maturity, it is loaded onto a truck, with only enough room for that animal to stand, and is shipped for many miles to slaughter house. There is loaded into a holding pen to await death. While waiting it can hear the terrified cries of his brothers, and smell the blood and death in the air.

    When that animals time comes, it is expected to walk meekly, single file, to its death. Not all animals do this and some are beaten into compliance. The first stage of death for these animals is that they receive a shock to the brain. This not to kill, but to stun, so it can be strung up easily. The animal is left alive for the bleeding process. If the animal is accidently killed before being bleed, it affects the quality of the meat. The animal is then split wide open and it bleeds to death. While it is bleeding to death, it undergoes a series of electrical shocks to "tenderize" the meat. The first occuring before death.

    After that point it is touched by hundreds of human hands. Government regulates the quality of meat... how many hairs, or other "contaminants" do you think are considered accepteble per pound of meat? The meat is processed by people. People who sneeze on it, who use the restroom and don't wash their hands, who suffer from disease....

    Then it is packaged, by more of these same people, and ends up on the grocers shelf. There it is purchased and consumed by people who give no more thought to their meal than how much it cost per pound, or whether or not it is well prepared. No thought is given to the life that was lost.

    One further note. The "stunners" and the "bleeders" in the packing plants are rotated out at a minimum of every six months. Do you know how many animals they kill in that time? They are not rotated out because they get bored with it. They are rotated out because they become immune to it. They start to crave it. Killing, every few seconds, eight hours a day, 5 or 6 days a week, really fucks with your head. Thats why they are rotated out.

    Enjoy your steaks and burgers peoples.

    I am not a hunter. I do not like to kill, nor do I like the taste of wild game. But I respect the rights of those who do. IMO, it really is the lesser of the two evils.

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    Originally posted by lms2
    I have been reading this thread for a while now. I had wisely decided to keep my opinions to myself, but I am such a sharing person. I gotta post.

    Processed Beef vs. Wild Game

    An animal, such as a cow, that is raised for food is no less of an animal than a deer, or any other wild game animal. It is at a big disadvantage in the killing scheme of things though.

    Wild Game. In the wild, an animal develops its instincts, and has a fighting chance. The life of a wild animal is spent in freedom. The animal has the opportunity to come and go as it pleases, to find a mate, to raise offspring. All things are born and all things die. The threat to animals in the wild is so small that if it were not for hunters, these animals would become overpopulated, and they begin starving to death, and wreaking havoc on residential areas. Hunting is a regulated sport. There is a hunting season, a limit on how many animals you can kill, and the manner in which you can kill them. Hunters...the good ones... buy licenses, and that money is used to support the wild life programs set out to help these animals. Of course there are bad hunters as well. Some people abuse the rights and privileges that good hunters follow. They are the exception and not the rule. They are not respected by the "hunting community" but seen as the low lifes they are. If and when they are caught, they are punished by law.

    When a man hunts an animal, he respects thats animal. When a man takes a life, he respects that life. Death is not pretty, but it is a fact of life. All creatures will die. When a man eats a steak, killed and cleaned by his own hand, he remembers that life and respects that life.
    You my dear get a vote from me!

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