Required Reading: Here is the thing...

[bueno bob]

Preach on, it's all true...hallelujah and holy shit!

[conmee]

Poji,

Remember to pass all rambles on to me, the resident editor, so I can clean up the spelling, punctuation, etc... We don't want it out that all the webbies are in perpetual drunken stupors...

In the old days, before fatherhood and AA diminished Pojo's skills, each of those single lines would be 300 word sentence/paragraphs (or, sentegraphs, as Elvis would say)... but that's when we tried having intelligent conversation/debate at VHLinks, oh, about 4 1/2 years ago... damn, we're getting old...

Icon.

[Terry]

Seems like it comes down to greed in the end.

The Van Halens just don't want to share either the attention or the money with Roth (hence the smaller share of royalties Roth got from the classic Van Halen sales after VH renegotiated their contract with WB in the mid-1990s).

As far as I can tell, that's what it boils down to, and none of the actions and statements the Van Halens have made/undertaken since the whole 1996 debacle lead me to believe anything otherwise.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

It's hatred Terry, just plain hatred...

Hatred for everything Dave stood for, stands for, and ever will stand for....

I reckon back to the early Van Hagar interviews when Ed would pronounce that they don't have a "ring leader" anymore, no more "Vegas trip" to it.....

In the Van Heiniken's alcoholic minds (or is that now Van Boone's Farm ?), having Dave back in the band, or shall I say Dave's persona, diminishes the band's public perception on their musical ability, rather than the showmanship aspect of their show....

They know that with Sambo, they have a lead singer that not only completely lets Ed run carte-blanche, but also in Hagar himself they have an incredibly simplistic lyricist, with absolutely no clue on how to front a rock band....

And THAT is just what Ed wants....

And the results, you ask ??

It is painfully obvious that you had Ed being pushed by nobody on his preparation for this tour.... His solos have been amazingly mediocre, if not poor.... His mannerisms have often been described as "wandering", almost like he's just going through the motions... The old Edward Van Halen, in the David Lee Roth-led Van Halen era, would NEVER half-ass a show in that fashion.....

The setlists for this tour are completely lame....Even if they wanted to shift the focus to Hagar-era material, they could have done MUCH better in selecting their songs, as opposed to a heavily laden ballad setlist.... A David Lee Roth-led Van Halen concert was wall-to-wall, in your face, kick you in the gut jams, all night long.... During the '84 tour, you didn't even want to take a piss break and miss a song !!! On this tour ?? Shit, take your pick.....

You have the band put out ANOTHER best-of compilation, including 3 of the most elementary, lollipop, Mickey Mouse, garage band sounding songs I've ever heard from a "major" rock act.... You put 3 live songs on there, originally from the Roth-era, but you put lame-sounding Hagar-led recordings on there, just to stab Dave in the back one more time.....

The main result: You have the once-mighty Van Halen going on a nationwide tour to half-empty halls....

Will it ever change ?? It would have to be as a result of incredible external pressure... If it's only the Boone's boys, no way in hell....

[Big Troubles]

Re: Required Reading: Here is the thing...

Originally posted by rustoffa
That's right motherfuckers, In a nutshell for your naked steaming eyes.

Reprinted with permission of the author:


You see...here is the thing...

8 years ago...Van Halen was ripe to take on the world...

Roth willing to rejoin...Ed appeared to be swallowing his ignorance...

and two new songs and MTV come forth...

But Ed realizes that HE may not be THE GUY with Roth...

and in one second...Roth is gone...

and Ed chooses a guy from a band that...irregardless of what previous albums they had...is known for a fucking ballad.

beautiful for Ed...he can dominate. His EGO even allows him to sing on the fucking album...a song that Cherone says, "I couldn't put any words together better than Ed...so we left it as is..."

Now...if that doesn't speak to a mistake...than GEEZus H Chriminies...

so...Dave fans are pissed...Sam fans are saying, "Hmmm...maybe this Cherone deal will work out..." and Cherone fans are...well...there aren't any...

So they put out this sham of an album...12 people goto see it...8 people buy it...

and Ed says..."Oooops..."but never plays the Tuba...

then 2000...then 2002...they are...they aren't...they are...they aren't...

and through it all...Van Halen erosion is taking place...

a few fans here...a few fans there...

Dave's saying, "I never got called back..."

Ed's saying, "It's up to the lawyers..."

Sam's saying, "Never call me...unless it's just friendship..."

I'm saying...who gives a shit...tell the lawyers to fuck off...

Dave and Sam smarten up...and tour together...more than likely to piss Ed off...

and Ed realizes that they are cashing in on his buck. So Mr. originality says, "hey...I have an idea...why don't we tour with both."

Al calls Sham...because Ed's a big giant pussy...and may have been afraid that Sham was wearing a cup...or perhaps had a flab of fat hanging over his crank...so Al and Sham have dinner...

and loe and behold, Mr. "I'm not interested..." is in...

VH management calls Roth management...and pushes an idea for Dave and Sham to tour with them together...

Dave says, "Fuck you..."

More Van Halen erosion...

Now people are saying three years from now?

I say...go ahead and wait if you want to...

and for those that still back Ed in all of this...I sure as fuck wish you were my neighbor...because I'd befriend you for a couple of months...

then spend the rest of my days fucking the neighbors wife up the ass...since that's the shit that he's dealin' these days...a bend over for anyone that ever supported that dumb, rotten bastard....

Look...I don't know the guy...but I know this...he's either created such a fucking fantasy...that when he wakes up every morning...he finds himself looking for fucking Aslan in the wardrobe...

or he's just a plain old prick...

and to those that think Ed doesn't owe us anything...again...fuck you too...because I've spent the better part of 33 years following this band...and Roth...

and I've spent more than enough money to be a playah...

So to Ed...fuck you...I don't owe you shit anymore...

least of all my respect.

Don't worry though Ed...there's enough people blinded by a solo that's nearly 30 years old that will continue to by your heaps of shit...

just don't count on me bein' there...for anything...

Do yourself a favor...and find a nice "Twister..."

cuz this ain't Kansas...

as usual a great read from you!

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Panamark
Nice one Pojo,

I want to know how you know that Roth said "no" when
contacted for a Van Halen/Van Hagar deal ?? I had no idea
he was even contacted.

Am I missing something here ??
Spill ya guts Mr Risin !

(Great Post, by the way !)

Rustoffa's post no Pojo's. Re-read.

[WelshJon]

Agreement with Va Beach VH Fan on the set list for the latest VH shows.
The potential is there, but it does seem half arsed in the delivery.:confused:

[Figs]

What VH has done to their fans for years

[Warham]

I still think Alex is the cunt.

[WARF]

Pojo's all-time best was, "David Lee Roth: Survivor" in 2000.

When pojo first became a webmaster.

It was classic.

Let me find it!

[allanshort]

I didnt know that Roth was contacted by VH management to tour with Hagar and the Sisters. News to me.

[DLRdelight!]

Hahaha great post man

[POJO_Risin]

You fucking grow up with a band...have them split up as they are entering their fucking Prime...have to put up with mediocre...

and fuck you all that think Hagar is anything more than that...

A wise man once said, "It take a whole lot more balls to be talked about with the best there is, and not quite be the best....

than to be the best of the also-rans..."

Yeah you stupid fucking Edhead and Hagarhomos....congratulations...

you've got the best of mediocrity...and you don't even fucking know it...

numbed by years of a bunch of fags making the "I'm a PUSSY" hand signal, and strutting across the stage like they are getting pounded in the ass by a fence post...

Congratulations...Van Halen making music THAT NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT...

wonderful...absolutely fucking wonderful...

[tobinentinc]

Interesting

[POJO_Risin]

Hey did you hear the news?

Van Halen has more dates for their current tour...

They are making a new album...

They are moving to Colombia and starting a new business in drug trafficing to support Ed...

They are shaving their heads and calling themselves VanChrishna

Haven't heard about any of this?

Neither have I...because nobody gives a shit about the name Van Halen anymore...because of the ignorant fucking pricks that "run" this band...

yeah..."run" this band...right into a fucking brick wall...

You'd think...after faceplanting once...someone would figure out not to do it again...because it hurts...

but you have to admire the persistance of VH...faceplant after faceplant after faceplant...

fantastic...