VH #3 Pollstar ranking is a CCC Scam!

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  • gslinger
    Foot Soldier
    • May 2004
    • 729

    VH #3 Pollstar ranking is a CCC Scam!

    Van Halen jumps up to #3 on Pollstar.com



    I saw this ignorant tool General Hina’s post, and the huge number of member reply posts on this subject, so I wanted to present the true facts in this matter.

    Please, everybody quit busting a gut on this PollStar report and what Hina and other transtestical’s like “it” posts. Nobody knowledge in the music industry, looks at, or recognizes, Pollstar’s Power Index rankings. There worthless! A fifth grader could manipulate the hell out of those numbers, much less someone as powerful as CCC & WMG. Further, trust me CCC IS CLEARLY manipulating the hell out of this ignorant power ranking report using the oldest promoter tricks in the book.

    I know for an iron-clad fact, suck Hagar’s cock if I am wrong on the internet for everyone to see, that this VH Tour is in big trouble and CCC is on the ropes, trying everything they can to salvage this deal. I have posted other matters reflecting how this VH Tour is in trouble, and I’m not a Sammy hater or really want to see this Tour fail. The latest VH tickets “auction sale trick” that appeared out of thin air yesterday on Ticketbastard (and disappeared late today?!) was just another fine example of very serious sales problems with this VH Tour.

    Bottom line here is nobody thought that Eddie would not “shape up” and “kick in” for this Tour. I didn’t either, the guy has always been such a driving musical force and a perfectionist, to a fault many times. Frankly, if I didn’t like Roth, I wouldn’t care if Meatloaf was fronting this VH Tour, as long as I got to see Eddie blister the stage. But in watching a full private video of Tuesday’s nights VH Dress Rehearsal, EVH is a disappointing musical and emotional mess! Not saying he didn’t have a few good moments and a few cool “showcase riffs”, but the rest of it was rough to put it mildly. I was elated, however, to finally get to see Wolfgang on stage in the video, even though he is only 13. But deep down, I got very pissed that Eddie was pimping his son “for a buck”, because he had let himself become a washed up hack.

    I guess people can only hope that when Eddie gets out on the road, and sees that millions of people still care about him (and I am still one of them) he will “kick in”, but I’m not holding my breath here. Usually when addicts get as bad as Eddie, long-term rehab is the only answer, short of a grave.

    I also learned late this afternoon, exactly what is going on with all these new VH Tour dates being scheduled, yet CCC is getting killed by lack of adequate ticket sales volume on existing scheduled VH play dates - except select A+ venue markets. We all know that VH is performing effectively “fixed fee” venues for this Tour, so they could care less about ticket sales volumes. The more shows they play, the more money they make. However, CCC makes the decisions to book additional VH venue dates, NOT VH Management. So obviously, the question is what the hell are they thinking?

    Apparently, CCC’s thinking is that by opening additional VH play dates, many in secondary venue markets, they can keep the alive the hype/fan excitement/”all is well with the Tour look”/and rigged VH poll rankings, like in PollStar, etc. They are hoping this “business strategy” will assist in “backfilling” lagging sales in major key market venues, that are extremely expensive to promote, and can generate significant single venue losses for CCC . If this sales “backfill” strategy works, then CCC will cancel some secondary market VH concerts. If the backfill doesn’t occur, they will cancel numerous secondary markets, and second night, VH concerts to rebalance their promote book.

    Hope this information was of value to serious forum members…….


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    Last edited by gslinger; 06-05-2004, 03:10 AM.
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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 59558

    #2
    Clear Channel is a subsidiary of Bush Criminal Empire LLC. Would they "cook" the books??

    Are bears Catholic? Does the Pope shit in the woods? Does Sammy write Velveeta drenched Hallmark card lyrics?
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

    Justice Democrats


    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • gslinger
      Foot Soldier
      • May 2004
      • 729

      #3
      Originally posted by FORD
      Clear Channel is a subsidiary of Bush Criminal Empire LLC. Would they "cook" the books??

      Are bears Catholic? Does the Pope shit in the woods? Does Sammy write Velveeta drenched Hallmark card lyrics?

      CCC is single handedly wreaking the concert promotion and radio airwave business! Bush chronies,...CCC corporate is based in San Antonio, Texas need I say more........


      Yeah one more........CCC is right up there on the Bush crooked chrony list next to Fox/News Corp/Rupert Murdoch
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      • gslinger
        Foot Soldier
        • May 2004
        • 729

        #4
        Originally posted by RogueHorseman
        Wow... everything we've been saying the last few weeks is being confirmed. Hate to tell the Samites, TOLD YOU SO, but... I TOLD YOU SO, tools.
        In a way, I'm hesitant to stir up the DLR asked to save the day line... BUT, GS, my pal at KLS who is in the CCC loop is talking the same thing. Says that the suits are starting to hit panic mode big time.

        Saw where you posted the R&R numbers yesterday, too... and we know just how propped up that b/s is. Sad, indeed.

        Has Tix ever done an auction in a desperate manner like this before? Can't remember it... My friend who first found the Ebay scalpers unloading at way under face was shocked until I told him it was Sam up front, anf then he says "How fuck*in stupid can they be, nobody want's to see that fu*ker anymore, the people want Dave"... This from a guy who is a casual observer.


        (Pull forward from previous Tour Bombing Update thread)
        Last edited by gslinger; 06-05-2004, 03:56 AM.
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        • lms2

          #5
          Sad sad day in the neighborhood. I hope Ed is able to pull it out and get it in gear. I finally replied to your post over in the other thread about dope head has beens (EVH can't play)...I was at work during that conversation.

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          • rustoffa
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Jan 2004
            • 8963

            #6
            Clear channel cookin' numbers? They've got target demographics down to political science. You can drive across the lower 48 and hear 5 different versions of their new rock stations in Louisiana alone. The whole fucking world is turning into the Betty Crocker bake-off without so much as an oven mitt or flour. The giant ovens conveniently absent couldn't handle the trainloads of shit on this site alone. That's right motherfuckers, I'm Schindler without a list and a memory the size of Melanie Griffith's wedding rings.

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            • lms2

              #7
              So do you think Ed's performance as of late is to fuck with CCC or do you believe he really has gotten as bad as it appears?

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              • monkeyspank
                Roth Army Recruit
                • Mar 2004
                • 7

                #8
                The Pollstar top 50 has nothing to do with ticket sales - it simply shows who's tour itinerary has been hit the most during the week.

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                • gslinger
                  Foot Soldier
                  • May 2004
                  • 729

                  #9
                  Originally posted by monkeyspank
                  The Pollstar top 50 has nothing to do with ticket sales - it simply shows who's tour itinerary has been hit the most during the week.

                  For your information, I never said it did have anything to do with ticket sales directly. Yeah, its based on their sites hits, which makes their Chart power ranking numbers worthless and highly subject to manipulation. That’s why me, (with 35 years music industry experience) and other people that know the music biz like the back of our hands, give no credence to polls of this nature.
                  Last edited by gslinger; 06-05-2004, 08:07 AM.
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                  • Roth kills Sam
                    Foot Soldier
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 691

                    #10
                    I believe every word Eddie Van Halen and CCC have to say...

                    Uh oh... that's the crack kicking in again

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                    • RogueHorseman
                      Commando
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 1298

                      #11
                      What GS is saying is true according to my radio contacts within CCC... and we all knew it was weeks ago, anyway.

                      The radio/records/promotion/concert/airplay/charts game is one I played for a very long time, and one that always was and always will be manipulated... CCC is in a position to do so to a FAR greater extent that anyone ever before, too.

                      Now, having said that, a floating turd is just that. This tour, the single, the whole ball of wax can be propped up, force fed and hyped to the moon but without much in the way of REAL fanbase interest it is still all for squat... which is why CC is in panic mode as we speak.

                      Serves them right, the whole f'n lot.
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                      • Warham
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 14589

                        #12
                        Glad to hear it.

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                        • RogueHorseman
                          Commando
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 1298

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Roth kills Sam
                          I believe every word Eddie Van Halen and CCC have to say...
                          Me too, well, except for when they open their mouths and speak.

                          And then the Tuba King began to play!
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                          • MERRYKISSMASS2U
                            Full Member Status

                            • Mar 2004
                            • 4372

                            #14
                            love this pic

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                            • RogueHorseman
                              Commando
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 1298

                              #15
                              Awesome, those were the days.
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