The great Floyd Rose Big-Block Shootout.

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  • jhale667
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Aug 2004
    • 20929

    The great Floyd Rose Big-Block Shootout.

    Since over the past year and a half I've become addicted to FloydUpgrades Big-Blocks of both the Brass and Titanium variety, one of the questions I'm invariably asked is "What do they sound like? What are the differences?" Well, sometimes verbal descriptions fall short; something has to be heard to be truly appreciated, if not felt. It wasn't enough to merely tell someone how much either of them kicked ass over the standard, you really have to hear it and decide for yourself. Telling people even my DRUMMER noticed a difference was a head-turner, true - but I wanted to document it once and for all.



    So I decided, since I had all three types lying around (I use the Brass and the Titanium as different flavors for different applications now, and have the originals as paperweights), I have Pro Tools and am only moderately afraid to use it I'd throw together my own sonic shoot out of sorts. I decided to use my Koa Warmoth Strat as the test-bed for the experiment, since she has the most even tone of all my Floyd-equipped guitars.

    First order of business was to reinstall the original (eww) standard 37mm block for the "reference riff/MP3". After slapping back on the standard, I recorded two sample riffs, one slightly dirty and one balls out to get a feel for their individual characteristics in regards to open chords, palm muting, and overall dynamics. For this test I used PODfarm and Recabinet - a Marshall Plexi and Soldano emulation both running into the same Recabinet "Green 4x12" with a single 121 mic emulation. I'd then repeat the process with the other two block types- same emulations, same settings, same guitar - different block each time.

    Here's the riff(s) with the Standard block:

    SoundClick artist: Jay's Gearwhore - page with MP3 music downloads

    Once that was done, I also took the opportunity to install the FloydUpgrades Brass Spring Claw and Noiseless spring set for the two "upgraded" riff examples, as I wanted to illustrate the full tone-freak Floyd Rose overhaul process.



    Those were quickly swapped out, then it was on to the Brass Block. Here's how that one went:

    SoundClick artist: Jay's Gearwhore - page with MP3 music downloads

    You can tell in that clip the low end is now seemingly boosted, and the tone is fatter overall. Gone is the dreaded Floyd Rose "thinness" players long complained of, and note transfer seems to have improved as well. The mids seem thicker and the highs seem to have been warmed up as well, without becoming screechy. There's also a noticeable increase in sustain. Definite UPgrade.

    Brass alone is impressive, (and one could certainly live with it) but - if you really want to go tonal crackhead with it, Titanium IS the push over the cliff. It is more like Brass' evil cousin. Everything Brass does, it seems to do "one louder". The sustain increase is most dramatic, making notes seem to jump off the fretboard...there's something more... aggressive about the highs too, but it's not at all harsh...check it out:

    SoundClick artist: Jay's Gearwhore - page with MP3 music downloads

    So now at least no one has to ask me to tell them what the different advantages of the blocks are now...you can hear them for yourselves...
    Originally posted by conmee
    If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

    That is all.

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    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
    I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


    Originally posted by Isaac R.
    Then it's really true??:eek:

    The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

    OMFG...who in their right mind...???
    Originally posted by eddie78
    I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.
  • jhale667
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Aug 2004
    • 20929

    #2
    For the record I think the Brass claws are a useful addition as well. Seems as if I noticed a slight increase in the guitar's overall resonance, and I don't recall it sounding quite so good when it had the Brass Big-Block installed originally.

    Originally posted by conmee
    If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

    That is all.

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    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
    I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


    Originally posted by Isaac R.
    Then it's really true??:eek:

    The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

    OMFG...who in their right mind...???
    Originally posted by eddie78
    I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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    • GAR
      Banned
      • Jan 2004
      • 10849

      #3
      If I disagree, you're gonna move this post - right?

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      • jhale667
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 20929

        #4
        Nice try....

        Originally posted by GAR
        If I disagree, you're gonna move this post - right?
        No, as you well know - if it's a straight troll it gets moved...and gee, wouldn't you have had to have tried one or the other to disagree? Got an opinion based on the clips? Like the standard the best of the three? Or are you going to "disagree" just because...
        Originally posted by conmee
        If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

        That is all.

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        Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
        I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


        Originally posted by Isaac R.
        Then it's really true??:eek:

        The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

        OMFG...who in their right mind...???
        Originally posted by eddie78
        I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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        • GAR
          Banned
          • Jan 2004
          • 10849

          #5
          The brass sounds more bassy and sustains better, the titanium sounds thinner but more resonant.

          Not IMO worth the money or effort, if you can't play or record properly.

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          • Diamondjimi
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • May 2004
            • 12086

            #6
            Originally posted by GAR

            Not IMO worth the money or effort, if you can't play or record properly.
            Project much?
            Trolls take heed...LOG OUT & FUCK OFF!!!

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            • jhale667
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 20929

              #7
              Originally posted by Diamondjimi
              Project much?
              So, in other words, for anyone other than him - it's a great idea...
              Originally posted by conmee
              If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

              That is all.

              Icon.
              Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
              I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


              Originally posted by Isaac R.
              Then it's really true??:eek:

              The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

              OMFG...who in their right mind...???
              Originally posted by eddie78
              I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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              • GAR
                Banned
                • Jan 2004
                • 10849

                #8
                For anyone who has the time to waste it's a fantastic idea.

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                • jhale667
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 20929

                  #9
                  Wah.

                  But is time spent in the pursuit of improved tone time wasted? It took me 6 (at a relaxed pace, with a pizza break ) hours to pull my guitar apart the 3 times it took to do the test - including pulling the old claw and springs, and soldering in the ground for new one, as well as recording the clips and bouncing them to MP3s.

                  What's an afternoon if your tone is noticeably better for it?
                  Originally posted by conmee
                  If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                  That is all.

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                  Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                  I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                  Originally posted by Isaac R.
                  Then it's really true??:eek:

                  The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                  OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                  Originally posted by eddie78
                  I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                  • Diamondjimi
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • May 2004
                    • 12086

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jhale667
                    So, in other words, for anyone other than him - it's a great idea...
                    Yup, pretty much...
                    Trolls take heed...LOG OUT & FUCK OFF!!!

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                    • jhale667
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 20929

                      #11
                      It's gonna be on teh interweb, it must be true.

                      Originally posted by Diamondjimi
                      Yup, pretty much...
                      It's a worthy investment for anyone into improving their tone.

                      Posted the shootout here and then at a couple of other gear forums; the review's gotten picked up by FloydUpgrades...and is going to be on the website...


                      So yeah, STFU, GARfail, Suckdicky, all a ya's! :tongue0011:

                      Originally posted by conmee
                      If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                      That is all.

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                      Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                      I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                      Originally posted by Isaac R.
                      Then it's really true??:eek:

                      The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                      OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                      Originally posted by eddie78
                      I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                      • Matt White
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 20446

                        #12
                        HA!!!

                        Nicely done J.....

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                        • VAiN
                          Use my hand, I won't look
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                          • Nov 2006
                          • 5056

                          #13
                          This is awesome! Thanks a lot for making the effort!
                          Originally posted by wiseguy
                          That shit will welcome you in the morning and pour the milk in your count chocula for ya.

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                          • jhale667
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 20929

                            #14
                            Originally posted by VAiN
                            This is awesome! Thanks a lot for making the effort!
                            Glad you like! People had been asking about them for a while, and I figured since I had all three types here and could knock it out in a day, why not?
                            Originally posted by conmee
                            If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                            That is all.

                            Icon.
                            Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                            I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                            Originally posted by Isaac R.
                            Then it's really true??:eek:

                            The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                            OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                            Originally posted by eddie78
                            I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

                            Comment

                            • jhale667
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 20929

                              #15
                              Uh, holy crap!

                              Looks like it was definitely a worthwhile effort, between all the places I posted the shoot out where questions had been asked about the blocks.



                              Originally posted by conmee
                              If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                              That is all.

                              Icon.
                              Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                              I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                              Originally posted by Isaac R.
                              Then it's really true??:eek:

                              The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                              OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                              Originally posted by eddie78
                              I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

                              Comment

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