John Boehner: NO on Shutdown; YES on Entitlement Reform

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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35156

    #16
    Well there you go.

    Up until now if someone had called you a fascist I would have said they were exaggerating...

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    • Seshmeister
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Oct 2003
      • 35156

      #17
      Originally posted by ELVIS
      I agree with ending the wars, but the rich and everyone else are already taxed enough...
      Funny you should say that because last year I paid more to the IRS than the Bank of America and General Electric combined which is kind of surprising.

      Some would say maybe not entirely fair...

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      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        #18
        Your business is based here ??

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35156

          #19
          Well I paid someone over there who paid his tax.

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          • ELVIS
            Banned
            • Dec 2003
            • 44120

            #20
            I agree with upgrading inffrastructure, but the Federal government does not exist to create social program and bureaucratic jobs with six figure salaries and pensions and benefits that are out of reach for the average taxpayer...

            it's disgustingly unfair...


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            • ELVIS
              Banned
              • Dec 2003
              • 44120

              #21
              Originally posted by Seshmeister
              Well I paid someone over there who paid his tax.
              Yeah, but you got sexual favors and vodka out of the arrangement...

              Americans get more pseudo-security and homo-legislation for their money...

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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35156

                #22
                GE are the second biggest company in the world with assets of $750 BILLION and they paid no taxes last year in the US.

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                • ELVIS
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 44120

                  #23
                  I know that...

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32798

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Seshmeister
                    GE are the second biggest company in the world with assets of $750 BILLION and they paid no taxes last year in the US.
                    Yup. They are going to be awarded nice big contracts from the government without a proper bidding process and be the only man standing when other competitors are eliminated by government regulation.

                    Their appliances that in the past were very good are now shit as well. If you want a decent washer you have to buy German now and a Miele isn't and more than a Mexican made GE piece of shit.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32798

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ELVIS
                      I agree with upgrading inffrastructure, but the Federal government does not exist to create social program and bureaucratic jobs with six figure salaries and pensions and benefits that are out of reach for the average taxpayer...

                      it's disgustingly unfair...


                      That's what's causing the whole spat. The private sector employees got cut first in jobs, pay, and benefits while the government sector have not and the private sector are paying the taxes. I think we might see a real tax revolt here pretty soon. It will just snap overnight like it did in Egypt. Nobody wants to be the first to stick their head out but once they realize they have a lot of friends, they go for it. Now after Wikileaks and Egypt the politicians are scrambling for an internet kill switch It's going to be fun to watch the boat spring more and more leaks and Obama trying to plug them all.
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • ELVIS
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 44120

                        #26
                        With the private sector employment dried up there's no way to sustain the bloated government...

                        Wisconsin is just the beginning and I say bring it on...

                        My tax dollars are not for bullshit social programs that many people do not want and even more do not need...

                        And it's not to pay huge salaries and pension plans to police officers and school teachers who fail to teach students how to read...


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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32798

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Seshmeister
                          Well there you go.

                          Up until now if someone had called you a fascist I would have said they were exaggerating...
                          Fascism is when the government and corporate interests combine into one entity. Like Nazi Germany. I'm don't like that kind of system. I pretty much like as much free market as possible and the government should have the role of keeping the markets free and fair and building infrastructure that allows business to operate. What happened here in the US is small businesses got hampered with so many regulations, taxes, and fees, they couldn't compete with the big corporations that like you said, don't pay taxes.

                          We used to have interesting main streets with a variety of small shops and stores. Now it's Walmart. We used to have wonderful butcher shops and farmer's markets. Right now our local dairies are being harassed and ran out of business by government agencies.

                          So I'm totally against fascism because it is what has ruined this country.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32798

                            #28
                            Originally posted by ELVIS
                            With the private sector employment dried up there's no way to sustain the bloated government...

                            Wisconsin is just the beginning and I say bring it on...

                            My tax dollars are not for bullshit social programs that many people do not want and even more do not need...

                            And it's not to pay huge salaries and pension plans to police officers and school teachers who fail to teach students how to read...


                            It didn't work in the Soviet Union. Deng Shao Peng in 1978 admitted China had to try something else. A good friend of mine in Shanghai said it's more capitalistic there than California or Massachusetts now. Socialism might work if you are sitting on a shit load of oil but it's so expensive it breaks countries over time. A lot of people in Europe are going to get a rude awakening because many governments there like the UK are broke and the social welfare is now an unfunded liability. It will be the last to go because the politicians know what will happen when it does. But hell, I can see why people thought it was great, you could live better in the UK on the dole than in other countries working, but now the money to run that is gone.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • ELVIS
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 44120

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Nitro Express

                              We used to have interesting main streets with a variety of small shops and stores. Now it's Walmart. We used to have wonderful butcher shops and farmer's markets. Right now our local dairies are being harassed and ran out of business by government agencies.
                              One thing I'd like the government is to support small business and create an environment where a local business can stand on it's own and be able to make ends meet with healthy competition with overseas companies...

                              Huge tariffs should be imposed on the junk that is flooding the market from China...

                              I for one am willing to pay more for a quality item...

                              A fair playing field encourages quality and competition...

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                              • kwame k
                                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 11302

                                #30
                                Then why were you opposed to getting affordable health care......health care costs cripples small businesses, you idiot
                                Originally posted by vandeleur
                                E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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