The Roth Army All Star Band Jams thread..

[ashstralia]

Oh, and if anything is to be made from this I'll be band manager...we'll split the profits 90/10. Deal?

how about a few pairs of beautifully handmade italian boots/pumps? ay? AY?

[jhale667]

Musical notation is the same as reading Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs to me. Totally a 'by-ear' person.

I don't think we need a 'score' per se. My notational skills are rusty at best, I use MusEdit for the rare times I want to transcribe something. I think since most of us ARE players, a chart would do just fine...y'know, such as:


Riff 4x
Verse section 8x
Chorus 4x

etc, etc.....

[jhale667]

Oh, and don't forget, Eb tuning...because we're a CVH group, we're not doing a Van Hagar tribute!

[VanHalener]

I will play Tuba.

Actually I will just sit on the sidelines. As no one is reading post's anymore in this thread.

Roth On All!

You my friend are a genius! First rock band with a tuba. -Awwww Yeah-

[chefcraig]

I don't think we need a 'score' per se. My notational skills are rusty at best, I use MusEdit for the rare times I want to transcribe something. I think since most of us ARE players, a chart would do just fine...y'know, such as:


Riff 4x
Verse section 8x
Chorus 4x
etc, etc.....

Oh, and don't forget, Eb tuning...because we're a CVH group, we're not doing a Van Hagar tribute!

Considering the above, from a compositional standpoint, it might be a good idea to keep the song as simple as possible, like a track from VH II. Minimal chord changes, perhaps only a verse, chorus, verse, chorus, series of overlapping solos, chorus, fade with more solos. Notice I didn't even mention including a bridge, which really isn't all that ncessary in what would essentially be an uptempo boogie tune. The structure (as most boogie tunes are) would have a blues base, and would make the adding of individual parts almost intuitive, thus far easier.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

You my friend are a genius! First rock band with a tuba. -Awwww Yeah-

[Seshmeister]

We could do the verses like one of those list songs like 'End of the world as we know it' or 'We didn't start the fire' and but just list dozens of lies Sammy Hagar has told.

[chefcraig]

Then you'd run the risk of the song turning into one of those 45 minute Dream Theater snorefests.

[jhale667]

Then you'd run the risk of the song turning into one of those 45 minute Dream Theater snorefests.

Please no...

[Hardrock69]

Oh, and don't forget, Eb tuning...because we're a CVH group, we're not doing a Van Hagar tribute!

LOL! I tune down to Eb all the time anyway. Figured that out in the late 70s when trying to play along with Kiss records. And it does add a bit of meat to the guitars, AND makes it easier to sing.

[Hardrock69]

Then you'd run the risk of the song turning into one of those 45 minute Dream Theater snorefests.

5 minutes max. That is about my favorite time frame anyway. Gives you enough time to have 3 verses, some choruses and a bridge and solo section, with even a nice fadeout if ya want.

[Diamondjimi]

Yup!

Now how do we get this ball a rollin?

[jhale667]

LOL! I tune down to Eb all the time anyway. Figured that out in the late 70s when trying to play along with Kiss records. And it does add a bit of meat to the guitars, AND makes it easier to sing.

Yep, and I've lost count of the singers I've worked with over the years, particularly in cover bands, that cried about it at first - to which I always responded "Let's have this discussion again before the 3RD SET" - who've come back to me at that point and said "DUDE, you're RIGHT - I'm not dyin' tonight, good idea!" Sometimes the singer doesn't realize it until they try it.

[fifth element]

You my friend are a genius! First rock band with a tuba. -Awwww Yeah-

ahhhhh, but that post got noticed......

SunisinuS...have heard your music...

rock on!

[Hardrock69]

Yup!

Now how do we get this ball a rollin?

Well, the writing has to come first in a way.

Heck I dunno....All the guitar players come up with a riff or two, vote on which ones to use, then which ones go where.....verse? Chorus?

We need the main groove first. Intro, lead solos, actual bass line, vocals all can come later. Just need to know what the basic vibe of the song is gonna be first......it could be a bass riff even.

And even once we have a basic idea, we can modify it as we go on...just need to figure out what the arrangement will be...how many verses, choruses, A parts, B parts, how many times repeat each riff...

Once Kwame knows what kinda direction we are going in, and once we have a rough arrangement, he can lay down some drums and we can begin recording for real.