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  • #61
    Four out of five of the Republican appointed judges were by presidents who lost the popular vote. The senate is incredibly undemocratic. This all means your very politicised and more powerful than ever supreme court doesn't reflect the voters.

    What you will have is the opinions of what a minority of people thought about society 30 years previously. You can see how people are getting pissed off. Also Trump is lying saying that your votes are corrupt and clearly hoping that the court will have the final say in any dispute as you say.

    Looking from the outside this is looking like a possible attempted coup of your system, it wouldn't be the first time its been done like this in other countries.

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    • #62
      As has been shown recently by Chief Justice Roberts... coming from a conservative background doesn't guarantee rulings that always align with conservative wishes from the court. Most of the justices are really intelligent people and their decisions flow better with the point of law rather than the whims of political bullshit.

      To me, that's a saving grace of all this... these judges aren't just lemmings riding the popular political train of the day.

      It helps to remember that a conservative judge tends to align their decisions with a fairly strict interpretation of the Constitution rather than the popular ideas of today which favor more progressive/liberal elements that do not align with the Constitution.
      "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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      • #63
        Opie Roberts is first and foremost a corporatist. Any case involving corporate profits, he's for it... whichever side benefits the corporations more. That's why Republicans were confused by his vote on "Obamacare" but he wasn't siding with the "liberals", he was siding with the insurance companies & big pharma.

        In the cases where no corporate money is involved, Roberts isn't entirely a hardline conservative. Which is a good thing, because it shows he has more of a brain than Thomas or Alito. Or Rapey Brett.

        On the other hand, one of RBG's last votes was actually in FAVOR of a gas pipeline being built under the Appalachian Trail, so even the best justices have some votes which lead to serious head scratching. (fortunately, that ill fated project fell apart a week or so after the court decision and the toxic pipeline isn't being built after all)
        Eat Us And Smile

        Cenk For America 2024!!

        Justice Democrats


        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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        • #64
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • #65
            Eat Us And Smile

            Cenk For America 2024!!

            Justice Democrats


            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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            • #66
              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • #67
                Originally posted by FORD View Post
                On the other hand, one of RBG's last votes was actually in FAVOR of a gas pipeline being built under the Appalachian Trail, so even the best justices have some votes which lead to serious head scratching. (fortunately, that ill fated project fell apart a week or so after the court decision and the toxic pipeline isn't being built after all)
                That killed a lot of jobs in the pipeline industry. My son is a master welder... If you celebrate killing that pipeline deal thinking it was somehow bad for the environment... wait until the 50-60 year old existing infrastructure that's falling apart fails and causes 200 times more environmental impact plus drives energy costs through the roof for the most populated portion of the US.

                The eastern US isn't going to running on green energy anytime in the next 20-40 years... do you really want all that oil and natural gas hauled in there via trains and trucks... which also don't run on green energy. Think about it...
                "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by ZahZoo View Post

                  The eastern US isn't going to running on green energy anytime in the next 20-40 years...
                  That's a sad admission, I think Europe will be and maybe even China so the US will be the dirty guy of the world as the eastern seaboard goes under water?

                  It's a pity your son can't get work welding wind turbines....

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                  • #69
                    Democracy Now!

                    Now you know slave FORD is really scrapping the bottom of the barrel.


                    Oh well, 4 more years of ol F A T T Y thanks to him and his lazy liberal ilk. The only upshot I see is that ol' F A T T Y will have killed off more than 3/4 of America's obese, lazy, Catholic Qtard population by the time his second term ends.

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                    • #70
                      Don't worry Slave Kristy. Under the theocracy of Holy Emperor Pence, enforced by Supreme Biblical Court Justice Amy Culty Batshit, you won't have to worry about such things as liberal journalists speaking the truth anymore. Those blasphemous heathen heretics will be sent to the camps for Godly re-education.



                      Under His Eye, Slave Kristy!!
                      Eat Us And Smile

                      Cenk For America 2024!!

                      Justice Democrats


                      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by FORD View Post
                        Don't worry Slave Kristy. Under the theocracy of Holy Emperor Pence, enforced by Supreme Biblical Court Justice Amy Culty Batshit, you won't have to worry about such things as liberal journalists speaking the truth anymore. Those blasphemous heathen heretics will be sent to the camps for Godly re-education.



                        Under His Eye, Slave Kristy!!
                        Yeah but Pence will dress a guy up in those robes...

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by ZahZoo View Post
                          That killed a lot of jobs in the pipeline industry. My son is a master welder... If you celebrate killing that pipeline deal thinking it was somehow bad for the environment... wait until the 50-60 year old existing infrastructure that's falling apart fails and causes 200 times more environmental impact plus drives energy costs through the roof for the most populated portion of the US.

                          The eastern US isn't going to running on green energy anytime in the next 20-40 years... do you really want all that oil and natural gas hauled in there via trains and trucks... which also don't run on green energy. Think about it...
                          I'v been hearing all this since the 1970's. It get's old.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Seshmeister View Post
                            That's a sad admission, I think Europe will be and maybe even China so the US will be the dirty guy of the world as the eastern seaboard goes under water?

                            It's a pity your son can't get work welding wind turbines....
                            Somewhat sad... given so many are led to believe renewable energy is widely available or in use... only 11% of the US energy consumption comes from "green" energy and at best 17% is generated from renewable sources. Many of those renewable sources are hydro-electric dams... not wind or solar.

                            I suspect Europe isn't that much better.

                            The reality is fossil fuels will be powering the planet for many more decades. Even under the most optimistic circumstances could the major population centers of the world even approach 50% of of generation or use of renewable energy in say 20-40 years..? I don't see it at the current adoption rates even in 50 years.
                            "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by ZahZoo View Post
                              Somewhat sad... given so many are led to believe renewable energy is widely available or in use... only 11% of the US energy consumption comes from "green" energy and at best 17% is generated from renewable sources. Many of those renewable sources are hydro-electric dams... not wind or solar.

                              I suspect Europe isn't that much better.
                              That's the big problem with a lot of Americans, you live in a bubble and never look at how other countries do things better than you do.

                              Scotland is 90% renewable electricity and increasing. The UK as a whole is over 30% and we need to do a lot better. Meanwhile you guys just shrug.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Seshmeister View Post
                                That's the big problem with a lot of Americans, you live in a bubble and never look at how other countries do things better than you do.
                                Like what? Defend yourselves? You tree tossing, kilt-wearing, shit whiskey puking, unbathed ginger pussies live in your own bubble of tourism and xenophobic ignorance. Yeah, when one thinks of all the great accomplishments the Scottish do in the world all you have to offer is stereotypes and garbled language.

                                Originally posted by Seshmeister View Post
                                Scotland is 90% renewable electricity and increasing. The UK as a whole is over 30% and we need to do a lot better. Meanwhile you guys just shrug.
                                I see. Must be nice to do that when AMERICA is paying for your defense. When China and/or Russia invade your rat-infested castle shithole what are you going to do? Throw some tartan on some solar panels and hope they go away? You Euro trash are a bubble of thanklessness and terminal stupidity. When ol' F A T T Y guts your military funding (which he will for everybody except of course, Israel) nobody will still understand your accents even when spoken in Mandarin.

                                Just remember to thank slave FORD and his band of self-entitled Bernie Brats for it.

                                Have a lovely day.

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