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  • #46
    You're right! Here is the Hill on Bernie:

    Sanders is a risk, not a winner
    BY JAMES PARDEW, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 02/23/20 07:00 AM EST

    Please, Democrats, find a practical, moderate candidate for president to help those of us in the center of the American political spectrum oust Donald Trump and his mindless supporters in Congress from power in November.

    The Bernie Sanders revolution is not the answer.

    The country needs a return to sanity, not an extremist from the idealistic far left to defeat Trump, the extremist reactionary on the far right. Give us someone — any gender or race — who is a real problem solver and who has some hope of winning the presidential and congressional election and then creating the political conditions for real change.

    I make this plea as someone who grew up in the South and has worked in government for presidents of both parties. I am also not affiliated with any political party or candidate.

    Large numbers of voters in Democratic primaries seem to think that a cranky, old, arm waving New England socialist with a heart condition can defeat Trump and carry through on his idealistic promises — Not a chance, and the Republicans know it.

    The Democrats have a spectacular opportunity this Fall to define Trump as Vladimir Putin’s candidate, using videos and statements by Trump in his own words and images with Putin and others. If Sen. Sanders (I-Vt.) is the nominee, Democrats lose that advantage — and Trump will define all Democrats as crazy socialists — even communists — who want to destroy successful American capitalism and implement suffocating government to replace freedom.

    I can envision old images of an arm waving Lenin beside photos of an arm-waving Bernie.

    With Sanders’ “Medicare for All” plan, Trump can rightly say that Sanders, like him, wants to kill Obamacare. Sanders’ proposal is unaffordable and would take current health insurance away from millions of Americans who are happy with the health coverage they have now. This is another unnecessary gift to Trump.

    The Democrats need to retain control of the House and gain control of the Senate to have any hope of working with moderate Republicans to clean up the mess after Trump. That means the Democrats need to win elections in the center of the country.

    Unfortunately, Democrats today, like in 2016, seem to have lost sight of the critical importance of the South and the center of the country — and the golden center of the American political spectrum — where they must win to oust Trump.

    The enthusiasm of idealistic liberals pushing Sanders for the Democratic nominee will not translate into electoral college votes in the South and the center of the country where Trump is strongest.

    I find it hard to believe any incumbent Democrats in Congress from the South or the center states think that a Sanders ticket would help their campaign for re-election.

    Imagine Democratic candidates in Kentucky, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida or Wisconsin, who are trying to defeat Mitch McConnell and running against other Trump candidates having to defend a Democratic Party led by Bernie Sanders. This could produce a Senate wipe-out and the potential loss of the House majority.

    Even if Sanders were elected, his presidency would be a failure if Democrats lose their majority in the House, do not win the Senate and Mitch McConnell returns as Majority Leader. What’s more, he had a thin reputation for working across the aisle and negotiating compromise to pass legislation. The “purity” that seems to attract his supporters argues against his effectiveness in accomplishing anything he promises.

    With that reality, what’s the point of a Sanders nomination?

    Who are the potentially successful Democratic candidates? Any one of several experienced moderates — Sen. Amy Klobuchar, a Minnesota moderate; former Vice President Joe Biden, and former New York City mayor Mike Bloomberg would work. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is not as destructive as Sanders, but she jumped left when she should have gone to the center and now is trying to play it both ways. Others who have dropped out, like Kamala Harris, could have been acceptable but are out of the picture now.

    Pete Buttigieg is impressive, smart and moderate — but very inexperienced. He also faces a serious, practical question that Democrats won’t talk about now, but will face in a general election: Is the nation ready to elect a gay president? Right or wrong, a very large number of voters on religious or traditional grounds will not vote for him. His orientation is a risk, and again, Trump will exploit fear and prejudice through surrogates like Rush Limbaugh to undermine Buttigieg in a general election.

    Democrats should stop obsessing about offending the Sanders fanatics. Sanders’ people must decide if their self-righteous and extreme liberal policies are more important than the future of the nation and four more years under Donald Trump. If the Sanders message is most important, they will be blamed for the result, and the left of the Democratic Party will be discredited.

    The nation is handing the Democrats a victory in November if they are smart enough to take it.

    Trump has turned American democracy on its head. His corruption, incompetence, racism, history with women, attacks on democracy and the rule of law and the damage to U.S. national security all make him vulnerable. In addition, several winning issues in moderate America are open for Democrats:

    Affordable healthcare and drug costs, quality public schools and affordable, quality public university options.
    Reasonable gun control and measures to stop the ravages of drug addiction that ravage communities.
    Programs to re-energize communities devastated by globalization and the loss of manufacturing and fossil fuel jobs.
    A comprehensive program to deal with the obvious immigration problems on the borders as an alternative to Trump’s hateful, simplistic exclusionary wall.
    Sanders must be the favored Democratic candidate for the Trump campaign because he offsets so many of Trump’s vulnerabilities and could present a devastating environment for down ballot candidates in critical states.

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    The temptation of nominating Sanders risks far too great a disaster for Democrats when four more years of a Donald Trump presidency is at stake in the November election.

    Please Democrats, give us a practical candidate for president who can win.

    James W. Pardew is a former U.S. ambassador to Bulgaria and career Army intelligence officer. He has served as deputy assistant secretary-general of NATO and is the author of "Peacemakers: American Leadership and the End of Genocide in the Balkans."

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    • #47
      There's no such thing as a "liberal media" network. Except for maybe Free Speech TV. And even they have the Hillbot Stephanie Miller on their morning show, so they're not even completely progressive.

      The Hill Rising is a balanced show with one progressive anchor & one "traditional" conservative (as opposed to a right wing nutjob like most of those in the GOP after 1980). But that balance obviously doesn't extend to everyone who works for the Hill. Just like MSNBC - when it actually HAD some progressive shows (pre - Scumcast takeover) only had them for 4 hours a night at best. The rest of the day was always various shades of right wing. Now it's pretty much ALL right wing, with the possible exception of Chris Hayes.

      This Pardew guy... his life story reads like a born & bred tool of the military-industrial complex. Not at all surprised he isn't a Bernie fan.
      Eat Us And Smile

      Cenk For America 2024!!

      Justice Democrats


      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • #48
        Eat Us And Smile

        Cenk For America 2024!!

        Justice Democrats


        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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        • #49
          The left committing suicide again.

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          • #50
            Maybe the "left" should support a candidate that's actually left and doesn't have a legion of skeletons walking around in their closets?

            Hell, even if Bernie's policies were as shitty as Biden's or Hillary's he would still be a better candidate, because he doesn't have any "scandals". We know that, because they desperately tried to find one, and all they could come up with was the fact that Bernie made an official visit to a Soviet "sister city" during his term as mayor, and the trip just happened to be shortly after his wedding to Jane, so the corporatists called it "Honeymoon in Russia"

            The fact that they try this hard, twice in a row, to find the shittiest candidate possible, that's some serious effort in stupidity. You might get the impression that the corporatist "democrats" don't actually want to win at all.
            Eat Us And Smile

            Cenk For America 2024!!

            Justice Democrats


            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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            • #51
              Originally posted by FORD View Post
              Maybe the "left" should support a candidate that's actually left and doesn't have a legion of skeletons walking around in their closets?
              If Bernie were running they fuck well would have found some or made them up...

              Hell, even if Bernie's policies were as shitty as Biden's or Hillary's he would still be a better candidate, because he doesn't have any "scandals". We know that, because they desperately tried to find one, and all they could come up with was the fact that Bernie made an official visit to a Soviet "sister city" during his term as mayor, and the trip just happened to be shortly after his wedding to Jane, so the corporatists called it "Honeymoon in Russia"

              The fact that they try this hard, twice in a row, to find the shittiest candidate possible, that's some serious effort in stupidity. You might get the impression that the corporatist "democrats" don't actually want to win at all.
              This "scandal" is pretty much bullshit. She has changed her uncorroborated story several times from "he looked at me funny and hugged me" to "oh my God he tried to rip my panties off!!' It's just the Bill Clinton shit all over again. No one remembers her, and she has told completely different versions as we have gotten closer to the election....

              You don't want to win, Ford. You just wanna go down the rabbit hole...
              Last edited by Nickdfresh; 04-30-2020, 09:52 PM.

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              • #52

                Ford's latest news source!!

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                • #53
                  Well, she just died a few weeks back, so I'm sure Satan could put me in touch with her, if I wanted. But I doubt I would trust anything she had to say. I'm sure she's busy running around Hell, making bets with Dick Nixon as to who can plant the most bugs in Satan's office.
                  Eat Us And Smile

                  Cenk For America 2024!!

                  Justice Democrats


                  "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by FORD View Post
                    Well, she just died a few weeks back, so I'm sure Satan could put me in touch with her, if I wanted. But I doubt I would trust anything she had to say. I'm sure she's busy running around Hell, making bets with Dick Nixon as to who can plant the most bugs in Satan's office.
                    Satan might send her back, with that face...

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by FORD View Post
                      ...
                      Hell, even if Bernie's policies were as shitty as Biden's or Hillary's he would still be a better candidate, because he doesn't have any "scandals". We know that, because they desperately tried to find one, and all they could come up with was the fact that Bernie made an official visit to a Soviet "sister city" during his term as mayor, and the trip just happened to be shortly after his wedding to Jane, so the corporatists called it "Honeymoon in Russia
                      Other than he's a multimillionaire "champagne socialist" whose wife has been investigated for financials?

                      Silly me! I forgot he farts potpourri while dancing on water...
                      Last edited by Nickdfresh; 05-01-2020, 08:46 PM.

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                      • #56
                        Bernie liked the Soviet Union. He got the big show and liked it but he later became your typical political opportunist. He made a ton of money campaigning in these last two elections. He's got his man of the people schtick down. A lot of people believed it. He campaigns as long as he can to make the most money and then he dives out and supports the establishment.

                        There's an old saying that goes if you get rich while in office you are a crook. Most politicians are. Even the well meaning ones who go to the state capitol or Washington DC get corrupted. It's easy money and so many people want to give it to you. There is a whole industry that exists just to bribe politicians. It's called lobbying.
                        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                        • #57
                          I do have to admit... Bernie was/is a great candidate. When someone is really good at something they should stick with it... it's what they do best. Don't spoil it all by electing them! Bernie in 2024!!
                          "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Nitro Express View Post
                            There's an old saying that goes if you get rich while in office you are a crook. Most politicians are. Even the well meaning ones who go to the state capitol or Washington DC get corrupted. It's easy money and so many people want to give it to you. There is a whole industry that exists just to bribe politicians. It's called lobbying.
                            If that's true and I believe it is, it's a fucking rotten system. An old saying i Sweden: Every country get the leader they deserve.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by ZahZoo View Post
                              I do have to admit... Bernie was/is a great candidate. When someone is really good at something they should stick with it... it's what they do best. Don't spoil it all by electing them! Bernie in 2024!!
                              The Bern likes the attention and money. He will do it again if his ticker holds out.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by saint View Post
                                If that's true and I believe it is, it's a fucking rotten system. An old saying i Sweden: Every country get the leader they deserve.
                                At the end of the day it’s the voters to blame. It’s the voters who keep re-electing the schmucks because they too want something from the government. You have shitty voters you get shitty results. When everyone wants to suck the tit you have problems.
                                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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