Tapes that kill

[Seshmeister]

Amazing count in by Tommy Lee.

Needs more dancers...

[Nickdfresh]

LOL Was gonna post this. And we were worried about Vince. I would think Tommy, behind Nikki, would be the last one to mime...

[Nickdfresh]

Needs more dancers? Just replace the band with dancers and play more backing tracks!

[Terry]

LOL Was gonna post this. And we were worried about Vince. I would think Tommy, behind Nikki, would be the last one to mime...

Yeah, I would have thought that too re: Tommy. From what I can see and hear in the clip, he looks and sounds like he's playing well enough along with the backing track after that pre-recorded hi-hat count-in.

Nice to see Vince lost all that weight...but I shouldn't be too harsh. After all, the guy only had two years between the tour's covid cancellation and now to do it. Fat useless fuck, although his vocals - assuming they are live - aren't QUITE as terrible as some other clips I've seen. Then again, it's the first song of the set.

Actually, it was kinda nice to see Mick Mars still alive and chugging along. Looked and sounded like his solo was live, at least. When I think about how Mars looked like he was at death's door nearly twenty years ago when the band reformed for that VH1 special and subsequent tour, it's cool that he's still going and able to tour.

I mean, fuck it. Let those motley meatheads keep grinding it out as long as they want to and as long as people wanna see it. What am I gonna say, that I haven't lost a step or two myself post-50 years old in my mundane, non-rock star existence?

[Von Halen]

Mick has a new solo album in the can. Ray Luzier plays drums on it. It probably would have been released by now if this stadium tour hadn't come up. It was going to be released, then the stadium tour came up, then Motley's people didn't want it released, then Covid, then the rescheduled stadium tour. Fuck. I hope Crue ends this garbage tour soon and Mick puts this album out.

[Seshmeister]

Yeah, I would have thought that too re: Tommy. From what I can see and hear in the clip, he looks and sounds like he's playing well enough along with the backing track after that pre-recorded hi-hat count-in.

Yeah to be fair I think he is playing live but to a click so that the piped in backing vocals and a little rhythm guitar sync up.

But it you do that you lose the energy of a non click track performance.

[twonabomber]

Yeah to be fair I think he is playing live but to a click so that the piped in backing vocals and a little rhythm guitar sync up.

But it you do that you lose the energy of a non click track performance.

The rest of Crue always complained that Tommy would change tempo often.

[Seshmeister]

It just doesn't look like a lot of fun to me. Watching rock in a stadium in daylight and you have almost lost me already but add how tired it all looks. I walked out of the last Def Leppard show I was at after 30 minutes and it looks as though 10 years later they are way way less interesting now. Poison a notoriously poor band live look the meh highlight.

If you gave me a ticket for nothing I wouldn't go.

[twonabomber]

$15 beers for a two hour show is one thing. $15 beers for a show that starts at 3 pm, fuck that!

[Seshmeister]

You would need to smuggle something in to alter your mind or be on some sort of VIP thing.

Hey if people enjoy it good luck to them but I know I wouldn't.

[Terry]

Is the current stadium show lineup Joan Jett, Poison, Def Leppard and Motley Crue?

Even putting the bands to one side, let's say each of them conservatively do an hour set (probably longer, but whatever). That's a 4 hour stadium show, minimum, and I'd guess would probably be closer to 6 hours or more. Maybe, like Sesh says, some sort of VIP thing. Maybe if there were private box seat packages available, complete with comfortable folding La-Z-Boy lounge chairs and halfway decent catered food and a decent, private restroom. I don't have the need to spend 6 hours standing up with nothing to eat other than shitty, overpriced sports venue food and - as twona says - cheap beer at $15 a pop. Not for these bands or any other group. I'm guessing such a VIP package as I described would run 1 to 2 thousand a ticket, easy. Well, I saw 3 out of the 4 groups in the 1980s in their prime for roughly $15 to $20 a pop. None of these groups are a 100x better now than they were nearly 40 years ago, so why would I pay 100x more now to see them? Inflation?

Went to enough stadium concerts in the 1980s to satisfy that experience. That VIP package I described sounds like something I'd rather enjoy now as a pay-per-view at home. Given those bands, I'd be willing to pay...say, $20 bucks for a home simulcast. And even then, with those bands, I'd probably be dozing off periodically sitting there at home watching it.

But I'm assuming these stadium shows are well-attended. Clearly, enough people want to see it re: financial viability.

[Von Halen]

I have zero interest in going to a stadium show ever again. In fact, I'm very close to being done with arenas too.

Only one band I'd see in a stadium right not. Rammstein. And that's because that's the only place you can see them.

They should have titled this tour "The Ripping Off Dumb People In Stadiums All Across America Tour".

I agree with Terry. I'd rather watch a big show (not this one) streamed on pay per view. This is why I so long for one of the old VH shows to have an upgraded official release. I could sit on my couch and watch it over and over. It would sound great and I wouldn't have to deal with idiots.

[Nickdfresh]

I agree with Von for once, I'd rather sit on my balls than watch this fumbling shitshow. That being said, Neil sounds better than I would've thought and actually enunciates the lyrics (no "tweet bot the nooks that ill") - assuming he is singing with no backing track...

[Terry]

I agree with Von for once, I'd rather sit on my balls than watch this fumbling shitshow. That being said, Neil sounds better than I would've thought and actually enunciates the lyrics (no "tweet bot the nooks that ill") - assuming he is singing with no backing track...

Neil did sound a bit better than I would have thought, but I chalk that up to it being the opening song: even during his last concert tour in 1977, Elvis - fat and stoned as he was - managed to hit his cues for his set opener (usually C.C. Rider) night after night. It may be the same case with Neil, where a few tunes in he is already wheezing and out of breath from having to stay vertical for more than 15 consecutive minutes at one go.

[twonabomber]

Vince Neil at the Grand Ole Opry!