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  • ZahZoo
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Jan 2004
    • 8961

    Mammoth WVH Live

    Wolfgang's first live solo performance from the Kimmel show last nite...

    Great performance! The Kid™ has pipes and can hold his own on guitar. Includes some shots of VH and Uncle Dave in the official video they played behind Mammoth. Good job... promising career for the next gen VH...

    "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”
  • ZahZoo
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Jan 2004
    • 8961

    #2
    "You're to Blame" The other song that was debuted on Stern a few weeks ago... plus the Mammoth WVH album cover.

    Solid rockin tune... Impressed with the guitar work on this one.

    "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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    • Von Halen
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Dec 2003
      • 7607

      #3
      Was that "Live"? It sounded almost too polished to me. If it was live, they killed it.

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      • ZahZoo
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Jan 2004
        • 8961

        #4
        It was live on Kimmel... they fuckin killed it!
        Last edited by ZahZoo; 02-12-2021, 06:34 PM.
        "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49125

          #5
          Originally posted by Von Halen
          Was that "Live"? It sounded almost too polished to me. If it was live, they killed it.
          It could be they have more control of the variables in that small studio space...

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          • Von Halen
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Dec 2003
            • 7607

            #6
            I recorded it on my DVR, but haven't had a chance to watch and listen to it on my system yet. I'm going to check it out on there. I'm not convinced just from watching it on the computer that it's "live". Super Bowl halftime show "live" maybe, but not really live. I hope I'm wrong.

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            • Nitro Express
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 32797

              #7
              Originally posted by ZahZoo
              "You're to Blame" The other song that was debuted on Stern a few weeks ago... plus the Mammoth WVH album cover.

              Solid rockin tune... Impressed with the guitar work on this one.

              Solid song. If we still had a music industry it probably would get a lot of radio play. What stood out to me is how well everything was mixed.
              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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              • Nitro Express
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 32797

                #8
                Originally posted by Von Halen
                I recorded it on my DVR, but haven't had a chance to watch and listen to it on my system yet. I'm going to check it out on there. I'm not convinced just from watching it on the computer that it's "live". Super Bowl halftime show "live" maybe, but not really live. I hope I'm wrong.
                Television is a fake medium. Rarely is anything real or live.
                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                • Von Halen
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Dec 2003
                  • 7607

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nitro Express
                  Television is a fake medium. Rarely is anything real or live.
                  So, have you watched it? What’s your opinion? Live or Memorex?

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32797

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Von Halen
                    So, have you watched it? What’s your opinion? Live or Memorex?
                    I think it was a little of both. They have sophisticated editing and mixing these days. My wife’s nephew works in the business. They can make anyone sound good. I think Wolfgang was live but I think they had a canned track underneath it.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Von Halen
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Dec 2003
                      • 7607

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nitro Express
                      I think it was a little of both. They have sophisticated editing and mixing these days. My wife’s nephew works in the business. They can make anyone sound good. I think Wolfgang was live but I think they had a canned track underneath it.
                      Fuck that shit. I can't take any musician seriously that would do that bullshit.

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                      • Seshmeister
                        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                        • Oct 2003
                        • 35155

                        #12
                        The levels of TV miming are

                        1) Guitars not plugged in - missing musicians

                        2) Drums not miked

                        3) Keyboards not plugged in. This one was a good test for years but they routinely now do that too when miming on TV.

                        4) Different from the album. This one fooled me for a while until there were 2 identical Ozzy 'live' performances on different TV shows with different vocals and guitar fills from the album proving that sometimes they now go and record a 'live performance' version to air on TV shows.

                        My ear isn't good enough to tell if WVH was live there, the two ways to tell are vocals and drum timing but the drummer has an earpiece in which means he could be genuinely playing to a click track if it turns out his timing is too good and I don't know the song well enough to be able to examine the vocals.
                        Last edited by Seshmeister; 02-13-2021, 11:46 PM.

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                        • Seshmeister
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Oct 2003
                          • 35155

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Von Halen
                          Fuck that shit. I can't take any musician seriously that would do that bullshit.

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                          • twonabomber
                            formerly F A T
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 11201

                            #14
                            Just before the solo the bassist leans in to the mic and sings but it doesn't sound like he's in the mix. So either forgot his cue or Kimmel's crew didn't turn him up.

                            Go on Wolf's Twitter and ask, or maybe he'll see this and say "some ASSHOLE says we weren't live!"
                            Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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                            • Seshmeister
                              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                              • Oct 2003
                              • 35155

                              #15
                              Originally posted by twonabomber
                              Just before the solo the bassist leans in to the mic and sings but it doesn't sound like he's in the mix. So either forgot his cue or Kimmel's crew didn't turn him up.
                              I am suspicious about the backing vocals. There is a bit of defense though that they have that guy at the back with the beard playing extra guitar and singing Foo Fighters style. If they were miming why have the extra guy?

                              Double bluff that's why.

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