"Tribute" Tour with Dave, Al and Satch

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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49125

    #16
    Originally posted by Rikk
    I really don't find this idea offensive. I don't think anyone can play like Eddie. My 8-year-old would kill to see Dave sing those songs for the first time in her life. If I could take her to see a band with Alex on drums & Dave singing, and if the guitar were played well...if she had a good time, I'd go. Would it be Van Halen, not for a fucking second. Would I go see it without my 8-year-old who just wants to see/hear Dave singing those songs? Fuck, no. But it's not the most offensive idea I've ever heard....
    I think Joe Satriani is closer to Ed in tone than Steve Vai ever was, but even still and as good as Satch is there will be something missing...

    I might try to catch Satch on tour in any case...

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58755

      #17
      Maybe they should get Vito Bratta on guitar? And if they can't get Sobolewski on bass, Vito knows a guy who already worked with Dave.
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      • Terry
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Jan 2004
        • 11957

        #18
        I could see maybe a one-off type show, in California...an arena in the Los Angeles area or something, because that area is basically where Ed lived all his life, and I'd imagine most people associate Van Halen as being a California band.

        You do a single show with a bunch of guest musicians. Something along the lines of what Queen did in Wembley a year after Freddie died. A long show. Maybe have Alex and Mike Anthony as the core of the band, and have various guitarists essaying different tunes. Dave can do several tunes. Hagar can do several tunes. Maybe get some other singers doing other tunes.

        Something like that could be done and have a degree of taste to it.

        I mean, the idea of Alex and Dave hitting the road and touring with a bass player who was never in Van Halen when Eddie was alive and whoever on guitar...to me, that's not a tribute to Ed. That's a farce. What is left of Van Halen can do what they like and people are free to see it, but if it comes to that scenario that Newstead and Satriani described, I won't even be interested in seeing clips of it.

        Ed is gone. Van Halen, as a live entity or in terms of new music, is over. End of story.
        Scramby eggs and bacon.

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        • Von Halen
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Dec 2003
          • 7607

          #19
          Originally posted by FORD
          Maybe they should get Vito Bratta on guitar? And if they can't get Sobolewski on bass, Vito knows a guy who already worked with Dave.
          Vito Bratta is missing in action for the most part. Doubt he'd have any interest. He's probably killing it in real estate right now.

          James is back in Megadeth now. I doubt he's going to give that up to tour with DLR again.

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          • Von Halen
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Dec 2003
            • 7607

            #20
            I find this idea to be totally offensive.

            I'd rather go see some of that weird shit Kristy listens to, than go see this bullshit.

            I hope to fuck Clichegar is involved. This fraudulant bullshit is right up his alley. I hope Mike refuses to play on the CVH portion, tells them he will only play on the Van Hagar era, and tells them to get Wolfgang, or someone else to do the CVH era.

            Better yet, I hope Clichegar and Mike put together their own VH Tribute tour, and get some Dave sound alike to do Dave's portion. Lord knows they'd be better than Dave these days, and probably 1/4 as weird.

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            • Vinnie Velvet
              Full Member Status

              • Feb 2004
              • 4577

              #21
              The thing is, whether we like it or not, this is very likely to happen and almost did based on what Newstead/Satch reported.

              I'm not surprised Alex wants to do this tribute tour. The market dictates this. And the market dictates that people will go see a show like this. Much the same way the masses go see Queen +.... or Judas Priest with no KK or Tipton or KISS with Fake Frehley and Fake Peter.

              Its just the way it is.

              We will say Dave will struggle singing blah blah blah. Guess what. The masses wont care. Dave will get help from backing tapes or whomever will be singing backup vox.

              Paul Stanley croaks his way through a set and is assisted with tapes. Yeah it sucks and yeah its fake as fuck but guess what? KISS still packed arenas. Go figure.
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              • Von Halen
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Dec 2003
                • 7607

                #22
                Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet

                Paul Stanley croaks his way through a set and is assisted with tapes. Yeah it sucks and yeah its fake as fuck but guess what? KISS still packed arenas. Go figure.
                I first saw Kiss in 1977. I last saw Kiss on the Psycho Circus tour. I have NEVER seen them with an imposter. Never will.

                Alex must need the money.

                I do not believe this will sell that good, unless maybe they package it with another fraudulant incarnation of a band. Like "Foreigner".

                Also, these tours with fake members work because the fake members fall in line. Even as weird as Gene Simmons is, he couldn't put up with the weirdness that is Dave, these days.

                I'd rather go see a fucking hologram tour with a hologram of Ed and a hologram of Dave. Piping vocals in to a hologram would be better than seeing it done to todays version of Dave.

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                • Vinnie Velvet
                  Full Member Status

                  • Feb 2004
                  • 4577

                  #23
                  I told my teenage son about the possibility of this "VH" tour and he said he would love to see it cause he didn't get to see VH when Ed was still alive.

                  There is an entire generation who will buy the shirts and other merch and go see this show. Again, whether we like it or not.

                  I heard Styx is coming to my town but I refuse to go see them without Dennis DeYoung. No disrespect to Gowan but sorry it aint Styx without Dennis.

                  But then again, Styx won't care about me. Crowds will still go see their show.
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                  • Von Halen
                    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                    • Dec 2003
                    • 7607

                    #24
                    The VHT Tour.

                    Can't wait.

                    I'll go see it if they play Red Rocks and Kristy meets me there.

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                    • Von Halen
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Dec 2003
                      • 7607

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
                      I told my teenage son about the possibility of this "VH" tour and he said he would love to see it cause he didn't get to see VH when Ed was still alive.
                      Do your Son a favor and sit him down in front of the TV with the Largo show. With the South America shows. With the US Festival show. Tell him he's never going to see that live. Sometimes we have to save people from themselves. Do not let him go and tarnish the memories of those above listed shows.

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                      • Nitro Express
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 32797

                        #26
                        Noel Monk said Van Halen ended in 1984. That Van Hagar thing was more of a pop act. I agree. Dreams and What Love Can Do ain't Van Halen but it was ahead of it's time. Van Hagar had a transgender singer way before the whole LGBTQ+++ thing became a thing. San Fransisco Sam brought the Castro District to the rest of the world. Sammy was a bigger ambassador of gayness than Richard Simmons ever was.
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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32797

                          #27
                          I wouldn't expect Alex to play with anyone. Him and Ed were extremely close not just as brothers but as jamming buddies. I think it would be very painful for him to try and drum. I know Alex Lifeson couldn't play when Neil Peart passed away and that's a friend. I can't imagine getting behind the kit when you lost your brother you used to play with. It would be hard to do alone at 5150 and many more times so in a public setting. I could see him maybe doing a sit in with Wolfgang but touring with a band? I think that's over with.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32797

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
                            The thing is, whether we like it or not, this is very likely to happen and almost did based on what Newstead/Satch reported.

                            I'm not surprised Alex wants to do this tribute tour. The market dictates this. And the market dictates that people will go see a show like this. Much the same way the masses go see Queen +.... or Judas Priest with no KK or Tipton or KISS with Fake Frehley and Fake Peter.

                            Its just the way it is.

                            We will say Dave will struggle singing blah blah blah. Guess what. The masses wont care. Dave will get help from backing tapes or whomever will be singing backup vox.

                            Paul Stanley croaks his way through a set and is assisted with tapes. Yeah it sucks and yeah its fake as fuck but guess what? KISS still packed arenas. Go figure.
                            Dave isn't going to cheat it. It's not in his nature. If Dave isn't on tour or making music he's pretty private. You never know what that guy is up to until he announces something. COVID kind of pissed on his parade.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • Vinnie Velvet
                              Full Member Status

                              • Feb 2004
                              • 4577

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Von Halen
                              Do your Son a favor and sit him down in front of the TV with the Largo show. With the South America shows. With the US Festival show. Tell him he's never going to see that live. Sometimes we have to save people from themselves. Do not let him go and tarnish the memories of those above listed shows.
                              He's seen all of that stuff believe me many many times. Heck hes heard the music when he was in the womb. Lol

                              But hey that's what he said. And his old man telling him it wont be like those old videos probably won't change his mind. Oh well.
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                              EAT US AND SMILE

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                              • Nitro Express
                                DIAMOND STATUS
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 32797

                                #30
                                My dad dragged me to see The Glenn Miller Band. My dad was a clarinet and sax player and he played big band stuff. Here kid, I will show you some real musicians. Anyways after the show my dad was complaining it wasn't the same as the old days. It was an inferior copy.

                                Trying to redo Van Halen would be a similar pooch screw. You aren't going to recreate the late 70's and early 80's in 2022. It's impossible and who's kidding who.
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