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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
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    Shares in backing tape companies set to go through the roof




    Mötley Crüe, Def Leppard, Poison Set 2020 Stadium Tour


    “There is no amount of money that would ever make me do it again because I have such pride in how we’re ending it,” Nikki Sixx said in 2014



    By ANDY GREENE

    Mötley Crüe released a video Monday officially announcing their upcoming reunion. In 2020, they’ll be kicking off a U.S. stadium tour with Poison and Def Leppard. While specific dates and venues have yet to be announced, the three acts will perform at stadiums around the country.

    The band doesn’t appear in the video, but Machine Gun Kelly, who portrayed Tommy Lee in the movie adaptation of The Dirt, announces that they are blowing up their “cessation of touring contract” because the fans demanded a reformation.

    “I never thought I would see the day when this would become a reality,” Kelly says in a press release. “But the fans spoke and Mötley Crüe listened!” The video shows this supposed legal document bursting into flames on a desk.

    Mötley Crüe played 158 shows on their 2014-15 Final Tour, wrapping up with a hometown show at the Forum in Los Angeles on December 31st, 2015. Prior to the tour, the band claimed to sign a “cessation of touring agreement,” which they said was a binding document that would prohibit them from ever playing again after the tour ended. At the time, the group’s management failed to produce this alleged document despite repeated requests.

    “Legally, we can’t play again,” bassist Nikki Sixx claimed to Rolling Stone backstage at a 2014 show in Denver. “The only loophole is if all four band members agreed to do it, we could override our own contract. But we know that will never happen. There are people in this band who will refuse to ever do it again, and you’re talking to one of them. There is no amount of money that would ever make me do it again because I have such pride in how we’re ending it.”

    “If anybody ever — and I don’t believe anybody ever would — would call any other band members and say, ‘Hey, it’s been 10 years, let’s just do 10 shows. A million a pop,’ it could never happen unless all four band members agreed,” Sixx added. “And if we did agree, the way we’ve set it up — including this conversation right now — we’d have so much egg on our face. We have so much pride that that alone would stop it.”

    Reports of a possible Mötley Crüe reunion have been circulating the past few weeks, with the official Mötley Crüe Twitter account sharing a fan petition calling for the band to reunite and adding “This is interesting . . .” (The Tweet was later deleted.) Reps for Mötley Crüe, Def Leppard, and Poison did not immediately reply to requests for comment.

    Def Leppard remain one of the most popular touring acts in rock. They stayed largely out of the U.S. this year with the exception of their Las Vegas residency, where they broke out extreme rarities like “Die Hard the Hunter” from 1983’s Pyromania and “Have You Ever Needed Someone So Bad” from 1992’s Adrenalize. In 2018, they played a highly-successful co-headlining tour of U.S. arenas and stadiums with Journey. Def Leppard were inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame earlier this year.

    “We are having an Indian summer and it’s because we have this integrity,” guitarist Phil Collen told Rolling Stone the night of the induction ceremony. “We never stopped, actually, in the 40-odd years that the band’s been together. We just keep going through thick and thin, all the bad stuff, good stuff. And I think that shows, and we’re just enjoying this Indian summer.”

    Def Leppard toured with Poison in 2017, which marked the first outing by the Bret Michaels-led band since 2012. In 2011, Poison toured with Mötley Crüe and the New York Dolls. It was the first time the two biggest bands of the hair metal era hit the road together. Unlike nearly every other act from that time, both bands still have all of their original members.
  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35149

    #2

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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32797

      #3
      Doing it for the money is very Rock and roll. Rock and roll is about a bunch of misfits and flunkies breaking society’s rules and getting paid wonderfully to do it. It’s not rock and roll being a fat blob of blubber, not singing well, looking old and past the sell date and playing shitty.
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • Seshmeister
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Oct 2003
        • 35149

        #4
        I've just been told by someone who knows much more about stuff than me that unlike the other two Poison actually don't use backing tapes.

        I'm going to investigate...

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35149

          #5
          Metal Sludge is reporting that the bands are being paid $150 million for this tour.

          They think 45 gigs over 3 months and they estimate $1.75m for MC, $900k for DL and $350k for Poison per show.

          Of course no one is forcing anyone to pay their few hundred bucks to go to this but it's hard not to think what a fucking scam.

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          • twonabomber
            formerly F A T
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Jan 2004
            • 11201

            #6
            Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49125

              #7
              Originally posted by Nitro Express
              Doing it for the money is very Rock and roll. Rock and roll is about a bunch of misfits and flunkies breaking society’s rules and getting paid wonderfully to do it. It’s not rock and roll being a fat blob of blubber, not singing well, looking old and past the sell date and playing shitty.
              Yeah, nothing more "rock -n- roll" than a bunch of marginally talented old white guys doing a money grab...

              "Hey, yeah, kick start my heart! No really I'm having a heart attack!!"

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              • Nitro Express
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 32797

                #8
                Originally posted by Seshmeister
                Metal Sludge is reporting that the bands are being paid $150 million for this tour.

                They think 45 gigs over 3 months and they estimate $1.75m for MC, $900k for DL and $350k for Poison per show.

                Of course no one is forcing anyone to pay their few hundred bucks to go to this but it's hard not to think what a fucking scam.
                I’m amazed the promoter thinks people are that dumb but there’s an old used car salesman saying that goes, There is an asshole for every seat.
                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                • Nitro Express
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32797

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                  Yeah, nothing more "rock -n- roll" than a bunch of marginally talented old white guys doing a money grab...

                  "Hey, yeah, kick start my heart! No really I'm having a heart attack!!"
                  Ha! If they play Buffalo Vince will eat the town out of chicken wings and pizza.
                  No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49125

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nitro Express
                    Ha! If they play Buffalo Vince will eat the town out of chicken wings and pizza.
                    What's funny is that he actually makes Mick Mars look like a picture of health at a Pilates studio!


                    Hey you! Throw me those ribs, NOWWW!!!!
                    Last edited by Nickdfresh; 11-21-2019, 05:33 AM.

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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32797

                      #11
                      Ha! I like Mick. He makes some funny posts.
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • twonabomber
                        formerly F A T
                        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 11201

                        #12
                        I decided that I'm not interested in seeing this show unless Def Leppard plays Slang in its entirety. And Motley Crue plays all of Generation Swine...
                        Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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                        • Terry
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 11957

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Seshmeister
                          I've just been told by someone who knows much more about stuff than me that unlike the other two Poison actually don't use backing tapes.

                          I'm going to investigate...
                          Poison would be one of those groups I wouldn't castigate for using backing tapes: they've had zero credibility from the get-go, so there's no integrity to lose in their case.
                          Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                          • Terry
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 11957

                            #14
                            I'd tend to have doubts this trio will be able to fill stadiums, because none of them (far as I can remember) really have before on the strength of their individual groups.

                            Like, even on Motley Crue's last/'farewell' tour, they were playing amphitheaters and arenas. Leppard has done the same, and the same applies to Poison...and I tend to think that there aren't enough niche fans of any one particular band in that bill to make the difference between arena capacity and stadium capacity: the idea being that anyone disposed to go see Motley Crue would likely be disposed to see Def Leppard anyway.

                            Plus, I'm assuming each band is going to get at least (in the case of Poison) an hour onstage, and maybe upwards of 90 minutes each for Leppard and Crue. Considering the average age of the concertgoers will be around 50 years old, I'm wondering how many people in that age bracket are going to want to pay a few hundred bucks a pop to go see a (allowing for between set changeovers) 5 hour show featuring those three bands in a stadium setting.
                            Last edited by Terry; 11-23-2019, 09:20 PM.
                            Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                            • Terry
                              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 11957

                              #15
                              Originally posted by twonabomber
                              I decided that I'm not interested in seeing this show unless Def Leppard plays Slang in its entirety. And Motley Crue plays all of Generation Swine...
                              ...and Poison plays a set consisting entirely of Led Zeppelin songs.
                              Scramby eggs and bacon.

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