Cheeto's Reverse Robin Hood "Tax plan" : Even Worse Than You Thought.

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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35150

    #31
    Step aside Abe Lincoln there is a new master orator in town...



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    • ZahZoo
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Jan 2004
      • 8961

      #32
      Originally posted by Nickdfresh
      What about a couple years down the road when they expire? As the corporate tax rate and lowered one for the rich don't?

      This bill is nothing but pissing on the middle class with a temp bribe...

      And even Obama agrees that the corporate tax rate needs cutting and readjusting, but this is a complete whoreathon giveaway in which they give nothing back and have no accountability. It's great for hedge-fund managers and and some shareholders, not for Main St....

      Did I say "whore?" Well, whores make you pay for it!
      Given the rapid change we've seen in the last 8 years as far the economic shifts globally that have changed business significantly in the US... 2026 will be something very different from where we're at today. I can guarantee whoever is governing then, will be looking to adjust tax rates again... most likely that will occur a few times before 2026.

      You talk about "giving back"... I view it as "take less". As both a standard wage earner and a small business owner I see my tax liability reducing for both income streams. Sure, I'd love to see more, but the reality is this does benefit me directly. I'll take it... happily... and leverage the hell out of it as far as I can legally.

      On accountability... yeah, that's a problem. But this tax bill directly applies to the take money from us part of this equation. The spending of the taken money is a completely separate process and legislative function. Yes, they are connected and governed by the Legislative branch... but... taking and spending are not covered in this piece of legislation. Just the "taking" portion is on the table.

      Can the taxes collected be spent more wisely... sure as hell they can! If they were... the deficit and the need to "take" more wouldn't be such a sticky issue. But legislatively they are governed separately. Maybe this is something you folks that oppose the tax legislation might want to come to the table on..? At some point... I'd figure your team might want to do more than just oppose shit on principle with no solutions offered...
      "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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      • Von Halen
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Dec 2003
        • 7607

        #33
        Originally posted by ZahZoo
        At some point... I'd figure your team might want to do more than just oppose shit on principle with no solutions offered...
        They can’t. It’s not the spoiled brat Liberal way. Either give them what they want, or they’ll lie on the floor and throw a tantrum until they get their way. Maybe Trump should offer them participation trophies, to try to get them to engage in a more meaningful way than tantrums.

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        • twonabomber
          formerly F A T
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Jan 2004
          • 11201

          #34
          Originally posted by Kristy
          There are no employers because there are no jobs.
          There are plenty of jobs, but not enough people who want to show up on time and/or sober. And if they do show up they want to play on their phones all day.
          Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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          • Nitro Express
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 32797

            #35
            Originally posted by Von Halen
            They can’t. It’s not the spoiled brat Liberal way. Either give them what they want, or they’ll lie on the floor and throw a tantrum until they get their way. Maybe Trump should offer them participation trophies, to try to get them to engage in a more meaningful way than tantrums.
            It might help also if they could keep their spending inside the Democratic Party under control and keep it from falling into bankruptcy. Everyone in there has a very big mouth and sticky fingers. The party budget gets drained with all sorts of Un-needed cronies and nobody puts anything in the pot. The Clinton Foundation bailed the party out but Hillary was a weak and corrupt candidate and now they are going to double down of fail and make lot’s of noise and make an entertaining and colorful scene on the way to permanent demise. That is the end of just one of many corrupt institutions we are dealing with and as things devolve due to their own corruption and incompetence the country and world will escalate fights on real problems such as the shortage of potable water. Already happening in a California and the politicians can blame global warming all they want. It still won’t fix shit. Better focus on cheap electricity to desalinate sea water or be fucked and cheap electricity never was in the liberal deck of cards.
            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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            • Nitro Express
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 32797

              #36
              Originally posted by twonabomber
              There are plenty of jobs, but not enough people who want to show up on time and/or sober. And if they do show up they want to play on their phones all day.
              Everyone wants to start at the top. Nobody wants to pay dues. Yup if you have no work ethic nobody is going to help you. It starts with that and we all get screwed. Tired of being an employee? Try being responsible for a payroll for awhile. Being an employee is easy. Much harder to be an employer.
              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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              • Nitro Express
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 32797

                #37
                Originally posted by ZahZoo
                Yep... imagine the stampede that will occur in February/March 2018... when all these snowflakes flock to their therapists because they can't cope with their net take-home pay increasing due to the tax cuts. Don't overlook the horror when job growth explodes and employers start raising wages. It'll be dark times, indeed...
                Gee. You actually sound like someone who is productive instead of someone who spends all day everyday complaining about life on social media and website forums.
                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49125

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Nitro Express
                  Gee. You actually sound like someone who is productive instead of someone who spends all day everyday complaining about life on social media and website forums.
                  Yeah, I'm sure he is. But he lives in a Red State, that takes welfare from the vastly more productive Blue States, that will lose out in this bill. If you have money in a Blue State, you get fucked and simply your money is being transferred to an entrepreneur in a Red State...

                  What, are you all cocky now that you've defeated the Trilateral Commission with help of the great White Nationalist, Steve Bannon?
                  Last edited by Nickdfresh; 12-18-2017, 12:17 PM.

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 58755

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Nitro Express
                    Everyone wants to start at the top. Nobody wants to pay dues. Yup if you have no work ethic nobody is going to help you. It starts with that and we all get screwed. Tired of being an employee? Try being responsible for a payroll for awhile. Being an employee is easy. Much harder to be an employer.
                    Eat Us And Smile

                    Cenk For America 2024!!

                    Justice Democrats


                    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 58755

                      #40
                      Eat Us And Smile

                      Cenk For America 2024!!

                      Justice Democrats


                      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 58755

                        #41
                        Eat Us And Smile

                        Cenk For America 2024!!

                        Justice Democrats


                        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                        • Kristy
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 16337

                          #42


                          I think this Tax bill is great. This is indeed a wonderful moment in American history the Rethuglicon party about to commit a wholesale suicide of themselves Jim Jones Guyana style is fine with me.


                          Today in the Rethuglicon congress

                          Oh look, there's Paul Ryan, and the genetic experiment gone horrible wrong turtle boy, and the Canadian Cruz....all clutching their copies of 'Atlas Shrugged'

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                          • jacksmar
                            Full Member Status

                            • Feb 2004
                            • 3533

                            #43
                            Dem's lose, ANWR oil coming, higher paychecks.

                            Next, take a look at all welfare programs and put them on a work first policy. Then because everyone is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo worried about healthcare, we'll have a free drug test that must be passed monthly prior to one penny in benefits.

                            After that


                            A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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                            • Kristy
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 16337

                              #44
                              Shame that is never going to happen.

                              After that

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                              • Nickdfresh
                                SUPER MODERATOR

                                • Oct 2004
                                • 49125

                                #45
                                Originally posted by jacksmar
                                Dem's lose, ANWR oil coming, higher paychecks.

                                Next, take a look at all welfare programs and put them on a work first policy. Then because everyone is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo worried about healthcare, we'll have a free drug test that must be passed monthly prior to one penny in benefits.

                                After that


                                Don't forget cutting entitlements like Medicare for older white people that tend to vote Republican, well used too...

                                Welcome the GOP, the minority opposition party of the future...
                                Last edited by Nickdfresh; 12-20-2017, 02:15 PM.

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