Hey Afghanistan, Where's Our Apology: New Case of Afghan Killing U.S. Marine

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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    Hey Afghanistan, Where's Our Apology: New Case of Afghan Killing U.S. Marine

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    APNewsBreak: New case of Afghan killing Marine

    By ROBERT BURNS, AP National Security Writer – 2 days ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — An Afghan soldier shot to death a 22-year-old Marine at an outpost in southwestern Afghanistan last month in a previously undisclosed case of apparent Afghan treachery that marked at least the seventh killing of an American military member by his supposed ally in the past six weeks, Marine officials said.

    Lance Cpl. Edward J. Dycus of Greenville, Miss., was shot in the back of the head on Feb. 1 while standing guard at an Afghan-U.S. base in the Marja district of Helmand province. The exact circumstances have not been disclosed, but the Dycus family has been notified that he was killed by an Afghan soldier. Marine officials discussed the matter on condition of anonymity because it is still under investigation.

    When the Pentagon announced Dycus' death the day after the shooting, it said he died "while conducting combat operations" in Helmand. It made no mention of treachery, which has become a growing problem for U.S. and allied forces as they work closely with Afghan forces to wind down the war.

    The international military coalition reported a case of a person wearing an Afghan army uniform "turning his weapon against" a coalition service member, but it did not say the shooter was a soldier or that the victim was an American. A coalition spokesman, Army Col. Gary Kolb, said that report was mistakenly not filed among casualty reports on the coalition's website; it also suggested the shooting happened Jan. 31. The coalition has a policy of not identifying the nationality of service members killed.

    The Associated Press inquired about the Dycus case after Maj. Gen. John Toolan, the top Marine commander in Afghanistan at the time, said in an AP interview March 7 that the Afghan government has been embarrassed by recent cases of Afghan soldiers turning their guns on their supposed partners.

    "I had one just a month ago where a lance corporal was killed, shot in the back of the head, and the Afghan minister of defense was here the next day" to discuss custody of the shooter, Toolan said, speaking from his Regional Command-Southwest headquarters at Camp Leatherneck.
    After a negotiation aimed at ensuring the Afghan suspect is prosecuted, the Americans turned him over to Afghan government custody, another official said.

    Toolan did not further identify the victim. He mentioned the case while explaining the importance of stopping Afghan treachery as U.S. forces step back from a direct combat role in Helmand and other areas of Afghanistan to a new mission of advising and assisting Afghan soldiers and police. That role, which is in full swing in Helmand, puts U.S. and other NATO troops in closer contact with Afghans at a time when tensions between the two sides have been heightened by an American soldier's alleged killing Sunday of 16 Afghan civilians.

    NATO has approved a series of measures to help reduce the risks of attacks. They include embedding counterintelligence officers in the Afghan army and its training schools to detect people behaving suspiciously, increasing the number of Afghan intelligence officers, and making sure Afghan troops are paid regularly and get regular leave. Random drug testing will also be implemented.

    "The Marines and soldiers that are doing the advising work out here understand that if they can't live side by side and operate day in and day out with the Afghans, then they are not going to be able to achieve what they need to achieve as far as relationship-building," Toolan said.

    A central premise of the war strategy is that success cannot be achieved until Afghan forces are capable of providing security largely on their own and that this will not happen unless American and other coalition forces partner with Afghans at every level to train, advise and mentor them.

    In the latest setback, an Afghan civilian interpreter at a British base in Helmand province stole a coalition pickup truck, drove it at high speed onto an airfield ramp and crashed it just as a plane carrying Defense Secretary Leon Panetta was landing Wednesday.

    Lt. Gen. Curtis Scaparotti, the No. 2 overall commander in Afghanistan, told reporters that the truck was headed toward a group of U.S. Marines assembled on the tarmac for Panetta's arrival. Neither the Marines nor others in Panetta's welcoming party were injured; the Afghan died of burns sustained in the crash.

    Dycus was assigned to 2nd battalion, 9th Marine regiment, 2nd Marine Division from Camp Lejeune, N.C.

    Known to friends and family as "Eddie," he graduated from Riverside High School in Greenville in 2008. According to a Mississippi state Senate resolution honoring his life and service, Dycus deployed to Afghanistan on his 22nd birthday, Dec. 12, 2011.

    Dycus' killing happened nearly three weeks before the burning of Muslim holy books at Bagram air base, an event that American officials said was accidental but that triggered a wave of protests across Afghanistan and is linked to six other killings of American troops by Afghans.

    Two U.S. soldiers were gunned down by an Afghan soldier Feb 23 in Nangahar province; an Air Force lieutenant colonel and an Army major were killed inside the Afghan government office in Kabul and two Army paratroopers were killed by Afghan soldiers in Kandahar province on March 1.

    In none of those cases did the Pentagon's casualty announcement mention that the Americans were killed by their supposed Afghan allies. It said, for example, that the two killed Feb. 23 died of "wounds suffered when their unit came under small arms fire." It happened amid an anti-American protest outside the Americans' base. Two protesters were killed by Afghan police there before the Afghan soldier turned his gun on U.S. troops.
    Last edited by BigBadBrian; 03-19-2012, 06:30 AM. Reason: insert link
    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush
  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    #2
    Fuck the war!

    Bring the troops home!!!


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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32797

      #3
      Afghanistan is like the Bermuda Triangle. Every nation that has invaded it gets ruined for doing so. We were dumb enough to do it after seeing a long list of other nations that tried to take over that beast. When our leaders get all cocky about our so called high tech military and it's capability I cringe. One of these days we are going to fuck with someone that will really bite back hard.
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49203

        #4
        Gee Brian, why does the U.S. require an apology for the death of one of its heroic warriors in the line of duty? Is this some commentary on an apology we've given for accidentally killing civilians or for one of our Army sergeants going berserk and murdering innocent civilian women and children?

        Brain, even you're not this stupid to simply echo Fox noise posed as commentary.

        We simply need to get the fuck out of this country as fast as militarily possible...
        Last edited by Nickdfresh; 03-19-2012, 07:19 PM.

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        • knuckleboner
          Crazy Ass Mofo
          • Jan 2004
          • 2927

          #5
          i gotta agree with nick, BBB.

          you don't REALLY assume that U.S. concern over the sgt's attack was 100% about being P.C., do you? you do agree that his action, however individual in scope, put every American there more at risk, right?

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          • Nitro Express
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 32797

            #6
            We simply need to get the fuck out of this country as fast as militarily possible...
            Yeah so we can have more troops to fight Russia with in Syria. Maybe we can get them all strung out on Afghanistan smack. That's it. We will just take over Syria by getting everyone high and addicted.
            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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            • BigBadBrian
              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
              • Jan 2004
              • 10625

              #7
              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
              Gee Brian, why does the U.S. require an apology blah blah blah
              I really don't give a fuck if these rag heads apologize or not. I posted this as an indictment of the Obama Administration getting on it's knees for every single damn wrong thing an American on this ball of dust does.

              Brain....
              Thanks for the compliment! Yes I am!
              “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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              • jhale667
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 20929

                #8
                Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                I really don't give a fuck if these rag heads
                Die in a fire, you racist f*cktard.
                Originally posted by conmee
                If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                That is all.

                Icon.
                Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                Originally posted by Isaac R.
                Then it's really true??:eek:

                The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                Originally posted by eddie78
                I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                • BigBadBrian
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 10625

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jhale667
                  Die in a fire, you racist f*cktard.
                  Using the reference "raghead" refers to one of a particular religion, not race. Not all Middle Easterners or even Arabs where such head garments. I realize you're too stupid to know that, however.

                  You also show no limit and hate to people of the Christian or Jewish religion but want to defend the Islamoterrorists. Interesting.
                  “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                  • jhale667
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 20929

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                    You also show no limit and hate to people of the Christian or Jewish religion but want to defend the Islamoterrorists. Interesting.

                    Yeah, calling yourself a regional bigot...nice distinction, 'tard.
                    Actually, I just hate those lying scumbags that PRETEND to be Christians - y'know, like you. And please show me where I've ever ripped on Jews in 8 years posting here...oh wait, you CAN'T. Idiot.
                    Originally posted by conmee
                    If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                    That is all.

                    Icon.
                    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                    I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                    Originally posted by Isaac R.
                    Then it's really true??:eek:

                    The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                    OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                    Originally posted by eddie78
                    I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                    • Jagermeister
                      Full Member Status

                      • Apr 2010
                      • 4510

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                      Using the reference "raghead" refers to one of a particular religion, not race. Not all Middle Easterners or even Arabs where such head garments. I realize you're too stupid to know that, however.

                      You also show no limit and hate to people of the Christian or Jewish religion but want to defend the Islamoterrorists. Interesting.
                      I disagree. When I use the term "raghead" I specifically mean any Muslim or Arab or for that matter any sand living fucker other than Israelis.

                      And he has a point about religion jhale. I have pointed that out to you before.

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                      • kwame k
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 11302

                        #12
                        .......and when I use the term douche bag I'm referring to Forrest and Friends

                        Glad we could clear that up!
                        Originally posted by vandeleur
                        E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                        • Jagermeister
                          Full Member Status

                          • Apr 2010
                          • 4510

                          #13
                          Originally posted by kwame k
                          .......and when I use the term douche bag I'm referring to Forrest and Friends

                          Glad we could clear that up!
                          It can get confusing.

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                          • jhale667
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 20929

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jagermeister
                            he has a point about religion jhale. I have pointed that out to you before.
                            No he doesn't, and while we're at it, f*** you too!
                            Originally posted by conmee
                            If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                            That is all.

                            Icon.
                            Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                            I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                            Originally posted by Isaac R.
                            Then it's really true??:eek:

                            The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                            OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                            Originally posted by eddie78
                            I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                            • sadaist
                              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 11625

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Nickdfresh

                              We simply need to get the fuck out of this country as fast as militarily possible...

                              As a warmongering conservative republican, I have to agree. Afghanistan is a clusterfuck. You either need to go to war with a full head of steam, or not at all.



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