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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49125

    In and Out Like Flynn?

    White House aide declines to back Flynn over Russia contact
    59 minutes ago


    U.S. National Security Advisor Michael Flynn boards Air Force One at West Palm Beach International airport in West Palm Beach, Florida U.S., February 12, 2017Image copyrightREUTERS

    Michael Flynn initially denied discussing sanctions but later said he could not be certain
    Trump takes office

    A top White House official declined in several interviews over the weekend to defend national security adviser Michael Flynn, amid controversy over his alleged contacts with Russia.
    Mr Flynn reportedly discussed sanctions with Russian ambassador Sergei Kislyak in the weeks before the inauguration.
    He denied talking about this issue but later said he could not be certain.
    Any discussion of sanctions could have violated laws against private citizens engaging in foreign policy.
    Who is Michael Flynn?

    The people around the president
    The controversy comes as Mr Trump faces his first major national security challenge, following the test by North Korea on Sunday of a ballistic missile.
    Mr Flynn would ordinarily be closely involved in determining the US response to such a test.
    How the controversy unfolded
    Mr Flynn is known to have spoken with Mr Kislyak several times by phone in December.
    Both Mr Flynn and US Vice-President Mike Pence denied that the two men discussed US sanctions imposed over Russia's actions in Ukraine and alleged hacking of the US Democratic Party.

    Senior White House Advisor Stephen Miller declined to back Mr Flynn
    But nine current and former officials later told the Washington Post that the issue had been discussed.
    A spokesman for Mr Flynn subsequently backtracked, telling reporters that the adviser now said he "couldn't be certain" he had not discussed the sanctions, prompting speculation that he may have misled the vice-president.
    Mr Pence and Mr Flynn reportedly spoke twice on Friday.
    What is the White House now saying?

    Stephen Miller, President Donald Trump's top policy adviser, declined to say when asked in a number of interviews whether Mr Trump backed Mr Flynn.
    Mr Miller said it was not his place to comment on the "sensitive matter" concerning Mr Flynn, who was an early supporter of Mr Trump but whose position in the administration is thought to be under scrutiny.
    Asked if the president still had confidence in Mr Flynn, Mr Miller responded: "That's a question for the president." Other White House officials also refuse to comment.

    Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Monday that Mr Flynn and Mr Kislyak did not discuss lifting sanctions.
    What is the president's view?
    Mr Trump, who spent the weekend at his club in Florida, Mar-a-Lago, has yet to comment publicly. Mr Flynn was with Mr Trump at Mar-a-Lago over the weekend.

    The president is expected to face questions on the issue during a joint press conference with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Monday.
    Citing administration officials, the Associated Press reported that the president was troubled by the situation and uncertain as to whether he would ask Mr Flynn to step down.
    Adviser under fire
    Mr Flynn was an ardent supporter of Mr Trump during the campaign, and he has become a close ally of both the president and the president's chief strategist Steve Bannon.
    But questions have been raised about Mr Flynn's closeness with Russia.
    He attended a banquet last year held in honour of the Russian government, where he sat two seats away from Vladimir Putin.

    My Flynn was pictured dining with Russian leader Vladimir Putin in December 2015
    A top aide on Mr Flynn's team, Robin Townley, was this week denied security clearance by the CIA, preventing Mr Townley from taking up a post in Africa for which Mr Flynn had recommended him.
    And Mr Flynn's son has attracted unwelcome attention - and reportedly a personal rebuke from Mr Trump - after tweeting about the so-called Pizzagate fake news story, which alleged a pizzeria was the nexus of a paedophile ring involving Hillary Clinton and one of her aides, John Podesta.

    My Amerikan bitches!!

    Michael Flynn is accused of discussing sanctions with Russia ahead of inauguration.
  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58754

    #2
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

    Justice Democrats


    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49125

      #3
      The Donald is pissed supposedly, as is Pence. Apparently Flynn tried to circumvent U.S. intelligence surveillance by using encryption. Nothing fucking fishy at all..

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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32794

        #4
        Flynn is one of the best psychological warfare experts we have. He's not going to go anywhere. There's plenty of people who wish he would but dream on.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35154

          #5
          If that's one of your best then you're in trouble...

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          • Nitro Express
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 32794

            #6
            Flynn was brought in to clean up the intelligence community and was recommended by several people in the military for the job. The reason why is civilians who never served in the military were getting high positions in intelligence and getting us into wars. Iraq would be the perfect example of going into a war based of false intelligence. The military is tired of it. Flynn is hated by the likes of people like John Brennan. So this is a witch hunt more than anything. Hell. Barrack Obama talked to plenty of foreign officials when he was a candidate for president. If we were to enforce the silly Logan Act we probably would be arresting a big percentage of Washington DC. Now if you are selling out our country that's a different matter. All I can say is our CIA has done plenty of business with Mr. Putin. We paid Russia to access Afghanistan and bought equipment from them especially the helicopters that fly to high altitude. Since Russia is a nuclear armed power our military and their military are always in contact regardless of who sits in the White House. One thing to consider is Putin keeps the place stable. Better to have a guy like Putin in power who can keep it together and we can work with than to have that huge country break up with nuclear weapons all over inside it. Issues most politicians don't get and our military does and like most of the citizens the military doesn't trust our politicians either. So the bottom line is: We can stop going to war to go to war or we can have business as usual and most the US congress wants business as usual because they make money. Want to talk real crime. How about war profiteering? How about insider trading? How about having an illegal server with classified material on it? So this is all politically motivated mumbo jumbo more than any real issue dealing with national security. If the media and most the politicians were so concerned about our security they would be more concerned with who we let into our country. No it's get Flynn because he's going to step on our war profits. That's the reality.
            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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            • Kristy
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 16336

              #7
              Originally posted by Nitro Express
              Flynn is one of the best psychological warfare experts we have. He's not going to go anywhere. There's plenty of people who wish he would but dream on.
              Oh, PLU-EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE

              He's another Putin-bribed puppet.

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49125

                #8
                Originally posted by Nitro Express
                Flynn was brought in to clean up the intelligence community and was recommended by several people in the military for the job....
                By committing treason? He's a whack-job and no one recommended him nor could most of the other brass stand him which is why he was largely drummed out...

                It's funny to watch the cockroaches scurry when the light comes on - imagine if Clinton had talked to a Russian ambassador on an encrypted line when she wasn't in gov't...

                Trump already has shown he's going to decimate his legions, and Flynny boy might be one of the first along with Preibus and Spicer....

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                • Nitro Express
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32794

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                  By committing treason? He's a whack-job and no one recommended him nor could most of the other brass stand him which is why he was largely drummed out...

                  It's funny to watch the cockroaches scurry when the light comes on - imagine if Clinton had talked to a Russian ambassador on an encrypted line when she wasn't in gov't...

                  Trump already has shown he's going to decimate his legions, and Flynny boy might be one of the first along with Preibus and Spicer....
                  Treason? Please. He was unpopular because like Eisenhower, he was not a big fan of feeding the military industrial complex. People like Flynn can overthrow countries without a shot being fired. If you sell weapons you hate people like that. Oh well. As far as Spicer and Preibus are concerned they can get the axe at anytime.
                  No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32794

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kristy
                    Oh, PLU-EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE

                    He's another Putin-bribed puppet.
                    A polygraph test could find that out. You hold high security clearances you get random polygraph tests.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32794

                      #11
                      The best intelligence officer of his generation! Why isn't this the sound bite that recurs whenever Flynn's nomination is mentioned?

                      Over the course of the war in Iraq, Flynn found himself in a race against time trying to understand and defeat al Qaeda in Iraq, Politico explains. Flynn grew to discover that al Qaeda cadres were sophisticated men with advanced degrees, unlike their thuggish footsoldiers, and spent hours upon hours interviewing captured senior al Qaeda leaders. "During the course of those interrogations and hundreds of others in both Iraq and Afghanistan, Flynn concluded that what united the terrorist warlords was a common ideology, specifically the extremely conservative and fundamentalist Salafi strain of Islam," Politico says. Senior al Qaeda leaders, sophisticated men who could get a job elsewhere if they wanted, were "true believers, every bit as committed to their ideology and skewed moral universe as Flynn was to his own."

                      From this discovery, came a key insight: Radical Islamic terrorism was there to stay in Iraq and in the Middle East. Flynn tried to communicate that — and was angered that his alarmist intelligence dispatches were watered down as they made their way up the chain of command to the National Security Council and the president's desk. Infamously and disastrously, President Obama confidently described ISIS as a "JV" version of al Qaeda. By all accounts, the Obama administration simply did not accept that Sunni terrorism in Iraq and Syria was not "on the run," because it was politically and ideologically inconvenient. As a result, a lot of people died who might have otherwise lived, and Michael Flynn was canned.
                      As usual. The most competent get canned. No wonder the government runs like shit.
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49125

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nitro Express
                        As usual. The most competent get canned. No wonder the government runs like shit.
                        STFU! You don't know anything about this authoritarian loving whackjob!

                        He outta be charged!

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32794

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                          STFU! You don't know anything about this authoritarian loving whackjob!

                          He outta be charged!


                          Charged for what? Talking on the phone? As I said, there is no crime. Krauthammer is no fan of Putin or Trump but sees it the way I do. You are the maniac saying the guy committed treason. You sound like that crazy Keith Olberman screaming on his little podcast. It's all partisan arguing. The only real sin Flynn committed was he wasn't working for a Democrat president.
                          Last edited by Nitro Express; 02-14-2017, 12:20 PM.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49125

                            #14
                            If you think he was some sort of great American then you're an apologist fool like that InfoWhores retard...

                            He can be charged for attempting to make deals with a foreign gov't as a private citizen, which he was when he made the calls...
                            Last edited by Nickdfresh; 02-14-2017, 07:27 PM.

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                            • Nickdfresh
                              SUPER MODERATOR

                              • Oct 2004
                              • 49125

                              #15
                              And oh yeah, Flynn is a fucking liar! Even Trump says this. But tell me what a great public servant he is, higgy-baby...

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