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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    That's like saying termites are going to save the house.
    Nice...

    That's a good one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    What if Jesus decides He doesn't want to fix this fucked up planet? Could you blame Him? I'd start over from scratch, like a computer with malware, and you're never really sure your Malware Bytes found everything.

    Good old Darik's Boot & Nuke for the planet, completely wipe out everything and start over.
    You're loopy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imapus Sylicker View Post
    Sounds like a grate setup for a joke. Or a damn interesting porno flick!

    Cheers!
    Sadly, nothing that interesting.... just one of many dumb statements from a BCE political appointee....
    Eat Us And Smile

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    No worse than your dumb statements...

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    Ok. I tottaly get the christian concept. It's based on the human race being hopelessly fucked which is a true observation. Everyone needs a reason why. They just can't accept "just because". So you have the Adam and Eve story and the earth falls. Adam and Eve's children fuck each other. Cain kills Abel and the big fuck up rolls forth. The flood happened because people got too fucked up. There seems to be a cycle of fuck ups.

    Now we are gloriously fucked up and have technology to do more damage than ever. Instead of a flood the earth will be cleansed with fire. Jesus saves the ones who didn't fuck up too much and finally says "You people are too fucked. I'm running things now. Well at least for a thousand years."
    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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    Something like that...

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    Scientists and Studies predict ‘imminent global COOLING’ ahead

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    Growing number of scientists are predicting global cooling: Russia’s Pulkovo Observatory: ‘We could be in for a cooling period that lasts 200-250 years’

    Danish Solar Scientist Svensmark declares ‘global warming has stopped and a cooling is beginning…enjoy global warming while it lasts’

    New paper by Russian solar physicist by Habibullo Abdussamatov predicts another Little Ice Age within the next 30 years

    Meteorologist Joe Bastardi on declining global temps: ‘Has the Obama administration, the EPA or anyone that can read a chart actually looked at what global temperatures are now doing?’

    Climate Scientist Prof. Anastasios Tsonis at the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee, Predicts: ‘I would assume something like another 15 years of leveling off or cooling’

    Prominent geologist Dr. Don Easterbrook warns ‘global COOLING is almost a slam dunk’ for up to 30 years or more

    Australian Astronomical Society warns of global COOLING as Sun’s activity ‘significantly diminishes’



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    Climate Depot as a source?
    How rich corporations manipulate the weak minded...

    http://www.exposethebastards.com/who_is_marc_morano

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    Who is Marc Morano?


    Marc Morano, the executive director of ClimateDepot.com, is one of climate denial's most prolific media-heads. In 2012, Morano was named the Climate Change Misinformer of the Year by conservative watchdog group Media Matters for America.

    ClimateDepot, who's sole purpose is to spread misinformation about climate change, is a project of the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT), a conservative think tank which has received funding from ExxonMobil, Chevron, and foundations which challenge climate science.

    Morano is considered a central player in orchestrating the Climategate scandal. Weeks before the 2009 United Nations Conference on Climate Change, a hacker stole a large amount of files, including private data and emails, from the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia. The data was then shared with climate skeptics, including Morano. These skeptics went on to cherry-pick information and sound bites from the emails in an effort to indict climate scientists for deliberately manipulating data and misleading the public.

    In less than 48 hours, Climategate became the top story in international news. During the scandal, Morano said, "I seriously believe we should kick them [climate scientists] while they're down. They deserve to be publicly flogged." Multiple independent investigations have found no fraudulent activity, and all of the scientists have since been exonerated. Climategate helped seed doubt in public opinion leading up to the biggest climate negotiations in world history.

    Prior to running ClimateDepot, Morano served as the communications director for Senator James Inhofe from 2006 to 2009. During his tenure, Morano helped author the infamous report "More Than 700 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims." The report was debunked. Research found the list contained at least 84 signees had taken industry money, 49 retirees, 20 economists, and 70 with no expertise in climate science.

    Despite having no credentials in climate science -- Morano holds a B.A. in political science -- he is touted as a climate change expert and makes frequent public appearances on conservative media outlets such as Fox News and the Rush Limbaugh Show. The Heartland Institute lists Morano as an expert, and he frequently speaks at their annual climate change conference.

    Over the years, he has filled the airways with extraordinary and unfounded claims. Most recently, Morano said climate change predictions were failing, comparing them to "medieval witchcraft, where we used to blame witches for controlling the weather."

    Media Matters has a stellar compendium of his most grievous accusations against climate science.

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    Paying higher taxes appeases the angry weather gods. Don't want to die early from weather related calamities? Pay the government more!

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    No pay the oil companies less

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    Actually we will pay them more. The scarcity will make their product more expensive and we will still need it.
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    Yep...

    And they'll make the same or better money from less product...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    No pay the oil companies less
    Short of making a run for it after you fill up, I don't see how you can possibly achieve that.

    I suppose you have ideas that can be implemented to assure the possibility of such fancy?

    Cheers!

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    I suppose he doesn't...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I suppose he doesn't...
    Well, it was worth a shot, anyway.

    Cheers!

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    The scandal of fiddled global warming data

    Quote Originally Posted by Imapus Sylicker View Post
    Short of making a run for it after you fill up, I don't see how you can possibly achieve that.

    I suppose you have ideas that can be implemented to assure the possibility of such fancy?

    Cheers!
    That's not what I meant you have to think about it the other way around.

    http://priceofoil.org/fossil-fuel-subsidies/

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    http://rt.com/uk/172868-britain-energy-blackout-gas/

    Apparently the alternative energy sources aren't working out too good in the UK. Get ready for massive fracking. It looks like the problem is going to be fixed with burning natural gas.
    Last edited by Nitro Express; 07-18-2014 at 12:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    I meant you have to think about it the other way around.
    There's a siggy post for someone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    It looks like the problem is going to be fixed with burning natural gas.
    Not evil gas !?!!

    SAY IT AIN'T SO !!!!

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    Burning of natural gas itself isn't the real problem. The water wasting, toxic polluting, earthquake causing, fracking method of extracting it IS.

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    Maybe if it were true...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    That's not what I meant you have to think about it the other way around.

    http://priceofoil.org/fossil-fuel-subsidies/
    Forgive me if I'm reading this wrong, as I am not exactly 100% sober right now, but are you implying that governments should subsidize your fuel?

    Well, I'm not sure how it works there, but judging by the way they do it HERE, the one thing you don't want - as usual - is the government interfering.

    Because here, the government has its paw on fuels, but rather than subsidize them, it double taxes them.

    So, you might want to look for a better, government-free alternative. The only one I can think of is fill up & run. I'm not saying it works, I'm just saying it seems to be the most viable solution.

    Cheers!

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    speaking of water wasting..........

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/05/us...-use.html?_r=1

    Californians Keep Up With Joneses’ Water Use

    LOS ANGELES — For all the doomsday proclamations about the historic drought that has this state in a chokehold, here is what Californians have done to save water: not much.

    In five months since the drought emergency was declared, Californians have cut their water consumption only 5 percent compared with recent years, according to state officials — a far cry from the 20 percent that Gov. Jerry Brown called for in January.
    A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar..._campaign=1490

    'I've been banned by the BBC!': Ex-Chancellor Lord Lawson, a passionate climate change sceptic, accuses BBC bosses of silencing debate on global warming


    Over the years, both in and out of government, I have frequently been invited to appear on BBC radio’s flagship Today programme, usually to discuss economic issues.

    But despite the fact that I had written a thoroughly well-documented book about global warming (An Appeal To Reason), which happily became something of a best-seller, and the following year founded a think-tank, the Global Warming Policy Foundation (which is advised by a number of eminent scientists), I was never invited on Today to discuss any aspect of climate change.

    That was until earlier this year, when I was asked on to discuss the recent bad weather, which had caused widespread flooding in parts of England, the extent to which this may have been connected with man-made climate change, and what should be done about it.

    My opposite number was the scientist Sir Brian Hoskins. It was an appropriate pairing, since Sir Brian is no remote and unworldly academic: he is chairman of the Grantham Institute for Climate Change, a lavishly-funded alarmist pressure group, and a member of the Government-appointed Climate Change Committee, which exists chiefly to promote the abandonment of fossil fuels (coal, oil and gas) by the UK.

    It was a thoroughly civilised discussion, ably refereed by presenter Justin Webb. Following the programme, on February 13, all hell broke loose.

    The BBC was overwhelmed by a well-organised deluge of complaints — many of them, inevitably, from those with a commercial interest in renewable energy, as well as from the Green Party — arguing that, since I was not myself a scientist, I should never have been allowed to appear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    speaking of water wasting..........

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/05/us...-use.html?_r=1

    Californians Keep Up With Joneses’ Water Use

    LOS ANGELES — For all the doomsday proclamations about the historic drought that has this state in a chokehold, here is what Californians have done to save water: not much.

    In five months since the drought emergency was declared, Californians have cut their water consumption only 5 percent compared with recent years, according to state officials — a far cry from the 20 percent that Gov. Jerry Brown called for in January.
    i read an article about a municipality in CA that was gonna fine a family for a brown lawn...
    Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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    What I'm saying is that governments subsidise fuel to fuck at the moment.

    They subsidise the fossil fuel industries and in the US in particular where politics is super money driven for each million given in campaign contributions by an Exxon translates into ten times as much back in subsidies for the oil industry. This is an impossible barrier to market entry for new power sources.

    Simultaneously as they pay for the politicians they also throw a few million here and there to people to set up 'think tanks' and websites to muddy the waters and confuse the issues.

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    And that's not even mentioning stuff like a trillion to invade Iraq...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PETE'S BROTHER View Post
    i read an article about a municipality in CA that was gonna fine a family for a brown lawn...
    Racists!

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    That opening sentence could become a template!

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    For all the doomsday proclamations about ________ that has ________ in a chokehold, here is what ________ have done to save ________: not much.
    I'll try one:

    For all the doomsday proclamations about climate change that has the whole world in a chokehold, here is what the vocal majority have done to save the Earth: not much.

    This is fun! Let me try it again.

    For all the doomsday proclamations about illegal immigration that has the United States in a chokehold, here is what the average citizen have done to save their homeland: not much.

    Ok, one more!

    For all the doomsday proclamations about the exhaustion of fossil fuels that has the whole world in a chokehold, here is what the vocal majority have done to save the Earth: not much.

    That last one only took ONE replacement!. C'mon, you try it.

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar..._campaign=1490

    'I've been banned by the BBC!': Ex-Chancellor Lord Lawson, a passionate climate change sceptic, accuses BBC bosses of silencing debate on global warming


    Over the years, both in and out of government, I have frequently been invited to appear on BBC radio’s flagship Today programme, usually to discuss economic issues.

    But despite the fact that I had written a thoroughly well-documented book about global warming (An Appeal To Reason), which happily became something of a best-seller, and the following year founded a think-tank, the Global Warming Policy Foundation (which is advised by a number of eminent scientists), I was never invited on Today to discuss any aspect of climate change.

    That was until earlier this year, when I was asked on to discuss the recent bad weather, which had caused widespread flooding in parts of England, the extent to which this may have been connected with man-made climate change, and what should be done about it.

    My opposite number was the scientist Sir Brian Hoskins. It was an appropriate pairing, since Sir Brian is no remote and unworldly academic: he is chairman of the Grantham Institute for Climate Change, a lavishly-funded alarmist pressure group, and a member of the Government-appointed Climate Change Committee, which exists chiefly to promote the abandonment of fossil fuels (coal, oil and gas) by the UK.

    It was a thoroughly civilised discussion, ably refereed by presenter Justin Webb. Following the programme, on February 13, all hell broke loose.

    The BBC was overwhelmed by a well-organised deluge of complaints — many of them, inevitably, from those with a commercial interest in renewable energy, as well as from the Green Party — arguing that, since I was not myself a scientist, I should never have been allowed to appear.
    Lawson was an odious toad faced conservative cunt who fucked up his job on a scale that makes the captain of the Titanic seem like an overachiever. The prick managed to lose 10% of the governments money in a day. That's fucking spectacular even Nitro will back me up. 10s of billions he should have been strung up on a meat hook.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

    Its like Cheney or Blair still giving out advice on Iraq except this fuckwit never even worked in the area.

    The fucking arrogance of these pricks is astonishing.

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    Allow me to pick one particular sentence out of your post, Sesh.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    This is an impossible barrier to market entry for new power sources.
    Well, DUH!

    What the hell have I been saying all along? There won't be any alternatives until the ALLOW it. So, stop worrying. Short of a massacre like the French revolution, you're not gonna get anything out of your worries.

    I'm all for guillotining the entire political class, bankers & CEOs, though. Someone get the ball rolling, I have a particular politician that I want for myself...



    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
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    Russia’s Pulkovo Observatory: ‘We could be in for a cooling period that lasts 200-250 years’
    "Wha? Shit there goes a SAM. Be back to you later"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    'I've been banned by the BBC!': Ex-Chancellor Lord Lawson, a passionate climate change sceptic, accuses BBC bosses of silencing debate on global warming
    You mean the network that Sesh uses to promote the "very complicated subject" of global warming ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    The fucking arrogance of these pricks is astonishing.
    The BBC ??

    I agree...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    Maybe if it were true...
    It's like debating with Lionel Hutz...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    And that's not even mentioning stuff like a trillion to invade Iraq...
    Yeah, I was going to mention a large portion of the military budget is earmarked for securing the Middle East...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Lawson was an odious toad faced conservative cunt who fucked up his job on a scale that makes the captain of the Titanic seem like an overachiever. The prick managed to lose 10% of the governments money in a day. That's fucking spectacular even Nitro will back me up. 10s of billions he should have been strung up on a meat hook.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

    Its like Cheney or Blair still giving out advice on Iraq except this fuckwit never even worked in the area.

    The fucking arrogance of these pricks is astonishing.

    so, the tories vs labour..........

    is that still going on????????????


    btw, about the same time in the US, we had congress writing checks at the post office right after they bailed out the S&L's.......

    meanwhile in hope, ark; a governor was fucking anybody but his wife..........................

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    Who they fuck is the least of my worries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Yeah, I was going to mention a large portion of the military budget is earmarked for securing the Middle East...
    Securing ??

    Do you by bridges ??

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