Neonazis Love Trumps uncomdemnation

[Nickdfresh]

Joe ScarboroughVerified account @JoeNBC 14h14 hours ago

Joe Scarborough Retweeted Soledad O'Brien

Hey Trump, Mission Accomplished. The Nazis, white supremacists and the KKK still love you. #Shame

https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/896575936484605955

After, the rightwing terrorist base needs kudos!

[jacksmar]

https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/896575936484605955

After, the rightwing terrorist base needs kudos!

What am I missing here, nick? Not dense, just don't get it. Explain please.

[Nickdfresh]

You can Google? There's a whole host of articles of even Republicans condemning Trumps pansy statement on what was Neonazi terrorism...

[jacksmar]

OK, wasn't debating or choosing a side or a stance or feigning ignorance. Just didn't get it. Got it now; without google.

[Seshmeister]

Reminding people of this seems to have worked quite well in the UK from time to time when the extreme right wing nationalists start their shit.

If you point out that some if not most of the greatest achievements of the country in living memory has been fighting what they are espousing it puts them in a really awkward position. Of course the people at these things are dumb nasty fucks but it's more about stopping the next tier people joining with them.

[Nickdfresh]

The main complaint is that he didn't specifically condemn neonazi and white supremacist cunts by name and made it sound like both sides were at fault when it was clear that the murderer was a nazi and most of the violence stemmed from the extremist rightists. That's why he came back on today and specifically condemned it as an act of terrorism,like at least McMasters had the brains to do Sunday....

[Terry]

Yeah, but the problem with Trump and this issue goes well beyond the speed of his condemnation or the all-inclusiveness of his initial remark.

From Trump's "it's clear they're all guilty" stance on the Central Park Five case (before the defendants were even tried...and even after they were later cleared and won a civil settlement against NYC, Trump never apologized or admitted he was wrong), to his propagating of the whole manufactured Obama Birther 'issue' (which he only begrudgingly admitted might not have been true last summer, several years after it was disproven), to his cutesy "I don't even know who David Duke is" remarks during the primaries...I mean, shit, even going back to the early 1970s when Trump and his father discriminated against minorities in terms of renting their apartment spaces to them...Trump has a long, LONG history of displaying racist attitudes toward blacks.

If Trump didn't already have this history of actions and remarks that has been well-documented prior to this current incident, one could possibly say his initial comments were a verbal gaffe.

Because Trump does have this history, it's clear what his attitudes are, so him walking back or expanding upon the initial comments is meaningless, if not downright insulting. Trump's chief political strategists, along with his Attorney General, all share Trump's viewpoint.

Anybody with a pulse, half a brain and the ability to see/hear/read knows what the score is with Trump, blacks and white supremacists in terms of how [Trump] feels.

It is what it is, and his feelings were - yet again - made clear with his initial response. So why should anybody bullshit themselves about it?

[Seshmeister]

Part of the problem is Trump seems to be easily swayed to the opinion of who he spoke with last. I really think he is a lot less smart than GW was. Al Gore came away from meeting him thinking he had won him around on climate change.

While Trump surrounds himself with people like Bannon then shit like this is going to happen a lot.

[Terry]

Part of the problem is Trump seems to be easily swayed to the opinion of who he spoke with last. I really think he is a lot less smart than GW was. Al Gore came away from meeting him thinking he had won him around on climate change.

While Trump surrounds himself with people like Bannon then shit like this is going to happen a lot.

Yes, but you have to ask yourself why Trump surrounds himself with the likes of Bannon, Miller, "The Mooch", Sessions and the like in the first place: the staff reflect their boss, not the other way around.

[Nickdfresh]

Part of the problem is Trump seems to be easily swayed to the opinion of who he spoke with last. I really think he is a lot less smart than GW was. Al Gore came away from meeting him thinking he had won him around on climate change.

While Trump surrounds himself with people like Bannon then shit like this is going to happen a lot.

Rumor has it that Bannon is about to be dumped into the East River,,,

[Seshmeister]

He's a fat lazy spoiled old asshole. I don't think he cares about any cause other than his own ego.

He doesn't have enough energy to be a nazi.

Also I think we should refuse to use the term Neo-Nazi from now on as what's new and it allows them to try and distance themselves from the utter fucking failure and humiliation of the Hitler and Mussolini regimes.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Yeah, but the problem with Trump and this issue goes well beyond the speed of his condemnation or the all-inclusiveness of his initial remark.

From Trump's "it's clear they're all guilty" stance on the Central Park Five case (before the defendants were even tried...and even after they were later cleared and won a civil settlement against NYC, Trump never apologized or admitted he was wrong), to his propagating of the whole manufactured Obama Birther 'issue' (which he only begrudgingly admitted might not have been true last summer, several years after it was disproven), to his cutesy "I don't even know who David Duke is" remarks during the primaries...I mean, shit, even going back to the early 1970s when Trump and his father discriminated against minorities in terms of renting their apartment spaces to them...Trump has a long, LONG history of displaying racist attitudes toward blacks.

It's quite simpler than that.

1. Trump's father was arrested at a KKK rally in Queens in 1927.

2. One of Trump's senior aides (Gorka) is a Nazi-sympathizer, opening wearing the "Order of Vitezi Rend", whose group murdered hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews in WWII.

3. His Chief Strategist (Bannon) is an admitted White Nationalist.

Frankly, the press is still not "going there", meaning there should be articles in all of major media outlets. They should be pounding those questions in every media availability to Trump and his minions....

[Terry]

Rumor has it that Bannon is about to be dumped into the East River,,,

Now THAT might be interesting.

If only because unlike Spicer or Priebus, Bannon doesn't really care about a future in Establishment Republican politics. I'd also tend to doubt he's going to go the Karl Rove route and try and be some Establishment Republican meta-guru via a PAC. Bannon's viability is directly tied to Trump and Trump alone: once Trump shit cans him (which Trump WILL inevitably do at some point because Trump has no enduring loyalty to anyone other than himself), For those reasons, Bannon might be willing to tell a few tales with little care or concern for his political viability in terms of working within mainstream politics and media.

However, I think Bannon was too smart to get directly involved with the Russian connections, and probably made it his business to willfully not know anything about any of that stuff. Bannon might be able to provide some detailed stories about Trump's inability to concentrate for lengthy periods of time and other character flaws...but would any of that really be anything other than yet another person confirming what we already know about Trump?

If Bannon is to be dumped, Trump should ditch Bannon's toady Miller (on loan from Jeff Sessions) right along with him. Stop buying into all that "dismantling the deep state" Bannon-propagated fantasy nonsense, go for a modest tax cut and a small-ball infrastructure plan.

At some point, Trump is going to have to put some sort of success up on the board: some type of legislation that will actually improve the lot of the lives of those who voted for him. And the clock is ticking, with a little more than a year to go until the 2018 mid-terms. I'm not saying the Dems will retake Congress in 2018 - they may well not - but if they do, at the rate Trump is going thus far his one accomplishment he'll be able to tout in 2020 (assuming he actually runs again) will be...what? His Supreme Court nomination being appointed? Temporarily saving 500 jobs at Carrier?

[twonabomber]

So the counter protesters are calling the original group losers, for supporting the Nazis and the Confederacy. You know, both lost a war. But aren't most of the counter protesters Hilary supporters and voters? Didn't they just lose in November? Hello pot, meet kettle.

[Von Halen]

So the counter protesters are calling the original group losers, for supporting the Nazis and the Confederacy. You know, both lost a war. But aren't most of the counter protesters Hilary supporters and voters? Didn't they just lose in November? Hello pot, meet kettle.

Are you comparing them to our own three stooges here? Sesh, FORD and NickDickless?