How come that hasn't merited a mention here yet? Any of you Europeans been rethinking your stance of Muslims yet?
How come that hasn't merited a mention here yet? Any of you Europeans been rethinking your stance of Muslims yet?
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Nobody deserves to die from lack of musical taste. But what the fuck does this have to do with Muslims? Was the guy with a gun who got shanked by the Hells Angels at Altamont a Muslim? Was the asshat who killed Dimebag Darrell on stage at his concert a Muslim?
Mentally fucked up people with weapons occasionally do stupid things in public settings. Their religion is irrelevant.
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DavidLeeNatra (05-24-2017)
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/23/europe...-uk/index.htmlPolice identified 22-year-old Salman Abedi as the suspected suicide bomber who detonated bombs as throngs of teenagers poured out of an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester that killed 22 people.
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You're mind-bogglingly fucked up.
A piece of shit Muslin blows himself up, and you ask what it has to do with Muslims.
Even for a left wing lunatic you're unbelievable.
For as long as people like you exist, your country has no hope of redemption. Absolutely fucked in the head,
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Staying stupid, in this case, would be continuing to whore our foreign policy out to Benjamin NuttyYahoo and those fucking treasonous PNAC shitforbrains who work for him, within the US government.
You know... the exact people that your cunt hero Queen Weathervane was ready to fill her administration with.
Hey look, it's another member of the Scum Harris/Bill Maher "New Atheist club". Which claims to be opposed to all religions, but only seems to really hate ONE of them.
This guy had some middle eastern sounding name, so you jump to a conclusion. I prefer to wait for the FACTS to come in. Kinda like last week when some Puerto Rican jackass smoked some meth and ran over a bunch of people with his car in NYC, and because he happened to have brown skin, the fucking Likudist hate mills were denouncing it as a "terrorist attack" before a shred of evidence was in.
Bullshit. Get back to me when you actually KNOW something about this fucking fool and why he was at some cheesy lip sync "concert".
Here's a tweet from another member of the Haim Saban funded propaganda squad......
Worst thing is, these cunts don't even get the irony of that....
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/23/w...ande.html?_r=0
Son of Libyan immigrants.
Also reported:
Another neighbor, Farzana Kosur, said that the mother, who taught the Quran, had been abroad for around two months.
bbc.com
Manchester attack: Who was the suspect Salman Abedi?
Police standing outside address searched in Whalley Range, Manchester Image copyright Getty Images
Image caption A property in Whalley Range, Manchester, was among two addresses searched by police
Police have named 22-year-old Salman Abedi as the person suspected of carrying out the suicide attack at Manchester Arena on Monday evening.
Abedi was born in Manchester on New Year's Eve 1994 to a family believed to be of Libyan origin.
It is thought he has at least three siblings - an elder brother who was born in London, and a younger brother and sister who were born in Manchester.
Manchester is home to one of the largest Libyan communities in the UK and neighbours have talked about the family having a Libyan flag flying in its house at certain times of the year.
Abedi's family lived at more than one address in the city, including a property at Elsmore Road in the Fallowfield area that was raided by police.
Officers also carried out a search of a property in Whalley Range.
Salford University confirmed Abedi had been a student there and said it was assisting police with their inquiries.
A trustee of the Manchester Islamic Centre, also known as the Didsbury Mosque, told the Press Association it was likely Abedi had attended there.
Fawaz Haffar said Abedi's father used to perform the call for prayer at the mosque, and one of his brothers had been a volunteer there.
"We make sure they preach the true Islam, the modern Islam, that preaches love to each other, peace and harmony," he added.
Greater Manchester Police Chief Constable Ian Hopkins said Abedi has not been formally named by the coroner.
He said the priority for detectives was to establish whether Abedi was acting alone or working as part of a wider network when he set off his device after the concert by US singer Ariana Grande, killing 22 people.
A 23-year-old man has been arrested in connection with the investigation.
doesn't seem to fit the typical "terrorist" profile........
Way to derail, slave FORD
You will never grow the fuck up. You wil rot and die in this place just for the sake of being a cynical brat and a fucking artard. You and your snotty legion of Bernie brat miscreants who feel you are so entitled to everything as long as it isn't Rethuglicon and/or Hillary-related. So Hillary bombed and destroyed Libya. Like Bernie wouldn't for the same god damn reasons? Maybe you and THEDOCTOR can form a suicide pact.
It's to point out he has zero social skills.
One of the networks reported that a book titled "Know Your Chemicals" was found at the bomber's residence...but I suppose that was just left over from his chemistry class.
Hell, it's Manchester. It could have been an Xtasy cookbook
Actually I was travelling today and not online but actually I don't have a whole lot to say about it.
I didn't rethink my stance on catholics when a tiny minority of them bombed the UK funded by Americans constantly for 30 years as I grew up.
Eventually I hope even you will grasp that terrorism only works if you are stupid enough to react in the way they want you to.
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Terry (05-23-2017)
Worst thing is, these cunts don't even get the irony of that.... [/QUOTE]
She's the British Ann Coulter making money from attention whoring, please don't post her BS it only encourages them...
Now that you mention it, that does sound like something Ann the Man would have said.....
"We need to execute people like (John Walker Lindh) in order to physically intimidate liberals."
She is just some horrible cunty woman that came 3rd on The Apprentice here or something.
Seriously like the Pat Buchanan stuff you post there comes a point when posting an emoticon at the bottom of some shitty hate speech is doing nothing apart from spreading it.
Terry (05-23-2017)
After your country killed tens of thousands of their kids with bombs?
DavidLeeNatra (05-24-2017)
The actions of Bush and Blair means every so often we now have these horrific random acts by cunts. Thanks!
DavidLeeNatra (05-24-2017),Etienne (05-23-2017)
jacksmar (05-23-2017)
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British Intelligence Warned Tony Blair of Manchester-Like Terrorism if the West Invaded Iraq
Jon Schwarz
theintercept.com
Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair has yet to say anything about Monday’s heinous, nihilistic suicide bombing at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England. According to current reporting, the attack has been claimed by ISIS and was carried out by a 22-year-old man born in Manchester to Libyan refugees.
But when Blair does speak, we can be certain he won’t mention one key fact: Before the 2003 invasion of Iraq led by the U.S. and U.K., he was forcefully and repeatedly warned by Britain’s intelligence services that it would lead to exactly this type of terrorist attack — and he concealed these warnings from the British people, instead claiming the war would reduce the risk of terrorism.
We know this because of the Chilcot Report, the seven-year-long British investigation of the Iraq War released in 2016. The report declassifies numerous internal government documents that illustrate the yawning chasm between what Blair was being told in private and his claims in public as he pushed for war.
On February 10, 2003, one month before the war began, the U.K.’s Joint Intelligence Committee — the key advisory body for the British Prime Minister on intelligence matters — issued a white paper titled “International Terrorism: War With Iraq.”
It began:
And it concluded much the same way:The threat from Al Qaida will increase at the onset of any military action against Iraq. They will target Coalition forces and other Western interests in the Middle East. Attacks against Western interests elsewhere are also likely, especially in the US and UK, for maximum impact. The worldwide threat from other Islamist terrorist groups and individuals will increase significantly.
The same report concluded that Saddam Hussein’s Iraq “would aspire to conduct terrorist attacks against Coalition interests” only in the event of an invasion. Moreover, “authoritative reporting suggests that Iraqi Intelligence (DGI) has little reach or [terrorism] capability outside Iraq.”Al Qaida and associated groups will continue to represent by far the greatest terrorist threat to Western interests, and that threat will be heightened by military action against Iraq. The broader threat from Islamist terrorists will also increase in the event of war, reflecting intensified anti-US/anti-Western sentiment in the Muslim world, including among Muslim communities in the West. [emphasis added in both cases]
Specifically regarding WMD terrorism, the JIC elsewhere judged that Iraq “would be unlikely to undertake or sponsor such terrorist attacks,” that the threat of it if Iraq were not invaded was “slight,” and that there was no “credible evidence of covert transfers of WMD-related technology and expertise to terrorist groups.”
Tony Blair’s case for war, as most clearly expressed in his March 18, 2003 remarks in the House of Commons, essentially turned all of this on its head. The possibility, Blair said, of terrorist groups obtaining WMD from a state like Iraq was “a real and present danger to Britain and its national security.”
“The real problem,” Blair proclaimed, “is that, underneath, people dispute that Iraq is a threat, dispute the link between terrorism and weapons of mass destruction, and dispute, in other words, the whole basis of our assertion that the two together constitute a fundamental assault on our way of life.” Blair did not mention that the people disputing this included his own intelligence services.
Then Tam Dalyell, a Labor MP from Scotland, asked Blair this key question: “What could be more calculated to act as a recruiting sergeant for a young generation throughout the Islamic and Arab world than putting 600 cruise missiles — or whatever it is — on to Baghdad and Iraq?”
Blair did not reveal the explicit warnings from the JIC that exactly this would happen. No, he told Dalyell, “Unless we take action against [Al Qaeda], they will grow. That is why we should act.” Terrorist organizations wouldn’t be motivated, as the JIC had told him, by an invasion of Iraq, because their true motivation was that “they detest the freedom, democracy and tolerance that are the hallmarks of our way of life.”
Blair’s stunningly fraudulent case for war carried the day, 412-149. The current British Prime Minister Theresa May, then a Conservative front bencher, voted for it. Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn voted against.
Then exactly what the JIC had predicted occurred. Fifty-two people were killed in July 2005 when four suicide bombers — three of whom were British-born — carried out attacks on the subway and a bus in London. One of the killers taped himself stating that they were killing their fellow citizens because Western governments “continuously perpetuate atrocities against my people all over the world.” In a separate tape another said, “What have you witnessed now is only the beginning of a string of attacks that will continue and become stronger until you pull your forces out of Afghanistan and Iraq.”
Two months ago, a British-born Muslim convert murdered four people with a car on Westminster Bridge, then got out and stabbed a policeman to death. Just minutes before his killing spree he declared via WhatsApp that he was acting in revenge against Western wars in the Mideast.
And now we have the slaughter in Manchester. ISIS has declared that the attack was carried out “in order to terrorize the polytheists, and in response to their transgressions against the homes of the Muslims.”
In her testimony before the Chilcot inquiry, Baroness Eliza Manningham-Buller, head of MI5 at the time of the Iraq invasion, explained all of this:
If British officials had read the JIC’s warnings, Manningham-Buller said, they could “have had no doubt” that this was likely to happen.Our involvement in Iraq radicalized, for want of a better word … a few among a generation … [who] saw our involvement in Iraq, on top of our involvement in Afghanistan, as being an attack on Islam.
An increasing number of British-born individuals … were attracted to the ideology of Usama Bin Laden and saw the West’s activities in Iraq and Afghanistan as threatening their fellow religionists and the Muslim world.
So did Blair read the intelligence, specifically the February 2003 paper on international terrorism?
He absolutely was aware of it, Blair told the inquiry, “but I took the view then and take the same view now that to have backed down because of the threat of terrorism would be completely wrong.”
But of course this was just another brazen misrepresentation by Blair. He had not taken “the view then,” at least in public, that invading Iraq would increase the risk that Britons would die in terrorist attacks, but it would be somehow worth it. Instead he had claimed that they would be at greater risk without a war, because if left alone Saddam Hussein would enable WMD-armed terrorism.
Asked how she saw this perspective, Manningham-Buller told the inquiry that “It is a hypothetical theory. It certainly wasn’t of concern in either the short-term or the medium-term to my colleagues and myself.”
In the end, the most plausible explanation of Blair’s motivation is simply that he was willing to sacrifice the lives of British citizens so that the U.S. could continue running the world with the U.K. holding its coat. Richard Shultz, a professor of international politics at Tufts who’s long been a key national security state intellectual, wrote in 2004 that “A very senior [Special Operations Forces] officer who had served on the Joint Staff in the 1990s told me that more than once he heard terrorist strikes characterized as ‘a small price to pay for being a superpower.’”
The victims of the Manchester bombing, among them an 8-year-old girl, are that small price.
The same Baroness Eliza Manningham-Buller that stated that the twin towers was a crime and not the start of a war?
so the only paper Blair received told him to back down? you and this writer pretty sure about that, TARD?
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