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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeo Delight View Post
    I dunno, maybe I am crazy but look at everything before the solo on the clip. It looks right, but could be carefully put together to approximate what should be there. The solo does look to be YRGM and syncs perfectly with what I am seeing.
    It does look very convincing.. I just don't get why Ed would do the encore song on the double neck, but hey.. whatever - if it's real I'm on board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELVIS View Post
    I think it's legit...

    But the audio sounds fine...

    I hate when non-professionals try to "clean up" the A/V...

    Even so called "professionals" can fuck it up...
    I agree.

    I'd love to see if the band is going to do something in the future entailing a DVD...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Wouldn't be a shock to see a full-length 1984 pro-shot concert start surfacing and making the bootleg rounds, even after all this time.

    Van Halen, and Roth, knew the value the band in terms of visuals live. Shit, I'll bet between Roth, Anthony and the Van Halens there are PLENTY of shows stashed away in their own private collections, maybe even to the point where these guys can't remember which specific shows they're sitting on.

    For years there weren't any FW tour dates available on film outside of the Oakland clips and some rough Super 8 stuff from Chicago, then one day a 1981 Memphis show shot on video from the soundboard starts getting traded.

    I'll tell you one thing. If that dude is the real deal, that is one fucking HELL of a first post!
    There's a rumor that the Buffalo, NY show in March of 1984 was recorded at the old Memorial Aud using the cameras for the Buffalo Sabres telecast, tried to track this down a bit but got nowhere...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Walker View Post
    Why can't you take the guy at his word?
    If he shares it, great... it will get around and everyone will see it.
    If he doesn't... then he doesn't "and as sure as the sun will rise in the morning, they'll be drugs for sale..."
    There's really no downside if this stuff ends up being legit or not.

    Like most potential releases Van Halen related, I remain in a state of cautious optimism until said hypothetical release is actually put out there...remains true for bootlegs, too. Did a trade once with someone who, in passing, claimed to have the 1984 VH Donnington show in video in its entirety and was willing to trade for it. After we completed an unrelated trade, I started asking when we could trade up for Donnington. This began a series of bullshit excuses on their end as to why they couldn't produce the goods they claimed they had.

    Some traders are legit. Others just like to fuck with people. Others still aren't really sure WHAT they have in terms of a specific show: once did a trade with someone for a 1983 VH Argentina show and they sent me 1983 Brazil. When I informed them about the mistake, they were adamant that the show they sent me was Argentina.
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    Isn't there a clip during the Panama video
    That is proshot?
    If I'm not mistaken Dave is running across the stage being filmed from a position in the upper
    level, there are a lot of live clips in that Video
    Could very well be from
    A proshot 84 show

    :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    There's a rumor that the Buffalo, NY show in March of 1984 was recorded at the old Memorial Aud using the cameras for the Buffalo Sabres telecast, tried to track this down a bit but got nowhere...
    The 1984 show I went to in Providence, Rhode Island has long been claimed as one of the shows where footage was used for the Panama vid live clips. Roth even claimed onstage that the show was being filmed, and I could see camera operators in the camera positions high up near the roof pointing cameras at the stage...the same cameras used to film basketball and hockey games.

    Nothing has ever surfaced, and later down the line I read that it was just a ruse to get people pumped up at the shows, and that there wasn't any film in the cameras.

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    it's legit !
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Factual evidence exists that all archival audio and video material from Van Halen was stored at Pacific Title Archives. The inventory sheets have been posted here many times and show all the various pro-shot video and recorded audio tape stuff for several known recorded performances. It was all stored in climate controlled vaults as you see below. Note a very important key fact... this was ALL on TAPE and FILM STOCK stored in a secure storage facility.
    I was waiting for you to whip this out ZZ......
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    Not so fast guys.

    Do you think that VH's management would want to haul out a film truck and mobile studio every time they wanted to watch one of the shows they filmed?

    If I were the band or management, I would want some VHS copies made to keep at home or office. This could very well be what the poster was talking about.

    This would make what his friend has "second-generation" material (copy of a copy of the master), and if you include the encoding to digital, that would make it 3-times removed from the master. Still very clean.

    So I would say his story is plausible.

    As with everyone else....if he were to actually provide a full show on DVD to someone here, THEN I would believe it 100%, but right now, we cannot just go whole hog and believe him 100% even with the short clip. If Uruguay was like a lot of other South American countries back then, it is possible the show was telecast live on TV, and this could be a VHS recording from the TV broadcast.

    We still have to wait and see.

    The next move belongs to scottxconn.....all we can do is wait and see if it pans out.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by 78/84 guy View Post
    Well there is a clip !! That looks real. Maybe she just ended up will a few VHS tapes someone handed her. Those shows were all filmed for tv over there. I would question the 1984 show though. No clip and he didn't say were it was from. Monsters of Rock maybe ? Hope it's all true. Time will tell.
    Thats what this guy said !
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    Quote Originally Posted by moose View Post
    Isn't there a clip during the Panama video That is proshot?:-)
    There are definitely three or four shots - barely a second or two in length - that are pro-shot work from an actual Van Halen concert in the Panama vid. One would guess, based on the amount of footage that was shot for the rest of the video, such as Dave and Al cruising in his low-rider or Ed blowing smoke rings at his piano, that an entire concert was filmed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Was revisiting this thread this morning and read the original post... I can only assume in the excitement of the possibility of something rare, unseen surfacing... most of you, especially Mr Walker, glossed over a blaring historical fact that makes this whole prospect highly suspicious and very unlikely.

    Let's review a few facts...



    Factual evidence exists that all archival audio and video material from Van Halen was stored at Pacific Title Archives. The inventory sheets have been posted here many times and show all the various pro-shot video and recorded audio tape stuff for several known recorded performances. It was all stored in climate controlled vaults as you see below. Note a very important key fact... this was ALL on TAPE and FILM STOCK stored in a secure storage facility.





    Early 1980's technology... remember before the current digital age. The wonderful world of analog video film and magnetic tape for recording live performances. Video was shot on film... audio was recorded to tape both on separate machines and spliced together and synced before transferred to another tape media format that combined them both. No digital storage devices... no CD's, no flash memory, etc... Hell the Sony Beta Cam was introduced in 1982... but commercial pro-shot was still huge cameras and separate sound recording units. VHS camcorders didn't emerge until 1985.

    Why all the history lessons... well it's simple. You would need a truck load of huge video/audio transfer machines to "copy" pro-shot film and transfer 2" analog audio tape... then more machines to sync and audio and video into a single source. Remember Van Halen's media was all in secured archival storage. Which did not house the machines to duplicate this stuff on site. The possibility of someone's ex wife having access is one thing... the plausibility of her having access to the complex analog duplication technology of the times and the ability to even operate it just doesn't add up... at all. In 1985, nor even in 1990 it's not like you could walk up and connect a cable and dump something to CD... nor flash drive, nor even plug your new camcorder into a film/tape duplicator and burn a quick copy for yourself.

    Sorry to piss on anyone's hopeful leg and tell em it's raining... but consider the story and then apply the real technology. None of the pro-shot CVH stuff could have easily been copied without a ton or two of huge complex analog machines. Plus given the one and done posting... this person just pulled a classic "Sea Gull" antic long known on these boards... Fly in, make a whole lot of noise, crap all over the place and fly off...

    Happy Easter...
    If that's true how do we have the pro shot's we have now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagermeister View Post
    If that's true how do we have the pro shot's we have now?
    Majority of the pro-shot stuff available today was recorded from TV broadcasts on VCR's. A few may have been scratch copies made from original media that somehow made it out publicly but were never mastered into a final product.

    Yes, there's the clip the guy provided and it's more or less convincing... odds favor it being a home recording from a TV broadcast rather than a direct copy from VH's vault or anything floating around in their management's hands.

    My point was... the guy is claiming to know someone who's allegedly sitting on a goldmine of pro-shot unreleased classic van halen that some woman allegedly burned copies of in the early to mid-80's. Given the format of the pro shot media used in those days... I question the whole premise of how she was able to copy the material. If all this stuff had been converted to something as simple as a home VHS tape back in the day and "someone who knew VH's management" could easily have had access and hours to gain a copy... then this stuff would be all over the place... not just now surfacing 30 years later...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Majority of the pro-shot stuff available today was recorded from TV broadcasts on VCR's. A few may have been scratch copies made from original media that somehow made it out publicly but were never mastered into a final product.

    Yes, there's the clip the guy provided and it's more or less convincing... odds favor it being a home recording from a TV broadcast rather than a direct copy from VH's vault or anything floating around in their management's hands.

    My point was... the guy is claiming to know someone who's allegedly sitting on a goldmine of pro-shot unreleased classic van halen that some woman allegedly burned copies of in the early to mid-80's. Given the format of the pro shot media used in those days... I question the whole premise of how she was able to copy the material. If all this stuff had been converted to something as simple as a home VHS tape back in the day and "someone who knew VH's management" could easily have had access and hours to gain a copy... then this stuff would be all over the place... not just now surfacing 30 years later...
    A legitimate argument Zah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    I question the whole premise of how she was able to copy the material.
    I used to copy betmax porn tapes from the video store by connecting two machines back in the 80s... where there's a will, there's a way.
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    I don't doubt that Mr Walker...

    I used to work for Bill Graham Productions in the early 80's as a live sound engineer and backline grunt. I spent some time in their production facility that handled the Bill Graham Presents TV stuff. While it wasn't Fort Knox or Area 51 you also couldn't stroll in with a blank VHS or Betamax tape and pop a quick copy of anything... plus they didn't have any "consumer" machines in the production studio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Walker View Post
    I used to copy betmax porn tapes from the video store by connecting two machines back in the 80s... where there's a will, there's a way.
    Mmmmm, Christy Canyon. Now there was an actress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Walker View Post
    I used to copy betmax porn tapes from the video store by connecting two machines back in the 80s... where there's a will, there's a way.
    loved her!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Walker View Post
    I used to copy betmax porn tapes from the video store by connecting two machines back in the 80s... where there's a will, there's a way.

    where there's a will, there's a way........and a crusty rag.






    I swear 80's chicks were a billion times better looking than women today. They looked real. All the porn girls today look identical & all do the exact same shit. I still watch, just sayin'.
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    80's chicks had a ton of hairspray in their hair. They wore some great smelling perfume. Tattoos were not the thing. Piercings were for punks. 80's chicks had class. They dressed nice and weren't fat sloppy fat asses with emotional problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    Mmmmm, Christy Canyon. Now there was an actress.

    I shoplifted some pron once. The things we had to do to get pron. Kids nowadays just do a internet search now. No fair. I think easy to get pron is what has made this younger generation lazy and complacent. The quest for pron not easy to find sparks creativity and desire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    80's chicks had a ton of hairspray in their hair. They wore some great smelling perfume. Tattoos were not the thing. Piercings were for punks. 80's chicks had class. They dressed nice and weren't fat sloppy fat asses with emotional problems.
    shauna grant killed herself at the age of 20 after a long period of coke addiction...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I shoplifted some pron once. The things we had to do to get pron. Kids nowadays just do a internet search now. No fair. I think easy to get pron is what has made this younger generation lazy and complacent. The quest for pron not easy to find sparks creativity and desire.
    The quest is about 55% of the whole fun of things back then... you had to work to get dessert!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    If all this stuff had been converted to something as simple as a home VHS tape back in the day and "someone who knew VH's management" could easily have had access and hours to gain a copy... then this stuff would be all over the place... not just now surfacing 30 years later...
    I tend to agree...but stranger things have happened.

    Remember the guy who videotaped the entire Hendrix set at Woodstock from ON THE STAGE and the video stayed in his closet for 30 years until it was released only a few years ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    Mmmmm, Christy Canyon. Now there was an actress.


    Christy truly was a legend ---- I miss "all natural" porn chicks like her!


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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    Mmmmm, Christy Canyon. Now there was an actress.

    She had such lovely, huge, natural titties and a hairy bush back then...fresh-faced and not augmented by plastic surgery or breast implants...

    I kind of miss those days, when porn actresses looked natural, and it wasn't a case of watching someone titfuck a silicone implant or stick their dick in a botoxed trout-mouth. Now, don't get me wrong, I've adapted to the contemporary pron starlet. However, there was just something special about those days gone by, watching Christy Canyon get hosed down with a quart of jizz from Peter North.

    Ah, memories...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadaist View Post
    I swear 80's chicks were a billion times better looking than women today. They looked real. All the porn girls today look identical & all do the exact same shit. I still watch, just sayin'.
    Ain't that the truth...


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    What in the fuck happened to this thread???


    Mind you...that wasn't a complaint...just sayin"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carmine View Post
    What in the fuck happened to this thread???


    Mind you...that wasn't a complaint...just sayin"...
    let's say...we spiced it up a bit...80's style...

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    Lol. Barbara Dare, Sharon Mitchell and Marilyn Chambers were my faves.....

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    I went on a google tear from this thread and found this forum. Good stuff!

    http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/index.php

    Among the many awesome scans, they have like every Hustler Beaver Hunt from 1979 to 1984 in there. Awesome.
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    Cool site OD !
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    Quote Originally Posted by ODShowtime View Post
    I went on a google tear from this thread and found this forum. Good stuff!

    http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/index.php

    Among the many awesome scans, they have like every Hustler Beaver Hunt from 1979 to 1984 in there. Awesome.

    Good shout
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    Complete video of 1983 Montevideo, Uruguay concert FOUND!

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    Lol. Barbara Dare, Sharon Mitchell and Marilyn Chambers were my faves.....
    Loved them, Ginger and Amber Lynn, the aforementioned Christy Canyon...ah, memories...and yeah, Vintage Erotica pretty much has all the classics...awesome site!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    Loved them, Ginger and Amber Lynn, the aforementioned Christy Canyon...ah, memories...and yeah, Vintage Erotica pretty much has all the classics...awesome site!
    lmao. Funny how this thread turned into a vintage porn meeting of the minds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I shoplifted some pron once. The things we had to do to get pron. Kids nowadays just do a internet search now. No fair. I think easy to get pron is what has made this younger generation lazy and complacent. The quest for pron not easy to find sparks creativity and desire.

    We would stay at Mission Beach every summer when I was a kid. Not far from home in the East County, but a nice summer vacation. A couple seedy liquor/small markets down there owned by Arabs back when there weren't really many Arabs around. (Little Sams Market in Mission beach).

    Grab a Cracked or Mad magazine, slip a Penthouse in the middle and gaze hoping the owner didn't come close enough to catch us. 2 of us had to just have the Cracked so if he checked he wouldn't see porn. We would quietly pass around the one with the dirty mag in it.

    And if you happened across a dirty mag in the trash somewhere or something like that, you saved & protected that thing like it was a Honus Wagner baseball card.


    Man...I hope this VH video is legit & comes out soon. The things we talk about in between VH nuggets.

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    Good to see business returning to normal around here...

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    The good thing about Internet porn/porn on DVD .. That that when u used to lend your mates your videos they always came back stopped were they Must have came lol it's like your in the pub and gotta look your pal in the eye and go dude the fat chick with the droopy tits is the one that mate you shoot

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadaist View Post
    And if you happened across a dirty mag in the trash somewhere or something like that, you saved & protected that thing like it was a Honus Wagner baseball card.
    Oh christ... I remember we used to go dumpster diving behind the local strip mall when the magazine shop would rip the covers off the magazines that they didn't sell and threw the rest of them out. We'd keep one copy and hide them in a fort in the woods and then we'd sell the rest of them to the old perverts that would wander through the neighborhood. It was great growing up in the seventies.

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