So we need to send booze to Africa? Fill those kids with whisky and they won't die of malaria?
It's an interesting plan...
So we need to send booze to Africa? Fill those kids with whisky and they won't die of malaria?
It's an interesting plan...
To be fair, superstitious beliefs shouldn't be respected.
They perpetuate ignorance & lack of questioning.
Questioning is what got us this "far".
For microbes on a speck of dust, not too shabby.
Especially given that it was all done by half a dozen people, out of all the gajillions that walked the earth.
Cheers!
I guess you didn't catch it when I said I was an agnostic. I grew up going to church every Sunday while some actor in an ugly suit tried to scare as much money out of everyones pockets as he so he could so he could live the life he tells you you shouldn't live. You don't need worldy thing but he damn sure does and you're gonna pay for them. Just because God doesn't intervene when atrocities take place doesn't mean there's nothing out there. Like I said maybe it doesn't work that way.
Which bit is disrespectful?
Invisible?
Sky?
Daddy?
Did Mohammed not jump on a magic horse when he died and go to heaven?
I think what you don't like about that is that it is stating the core beliefs in a way that removes the spin sticking to the core of the story.
Like calling Jesus a jewish zombie.
I think we are at cross purposes here - what I'm trying to say is that the reason I sound as though I don't respect the belief in Jesus, Zeus, Mohammed or Thor is because I don't.
I think it's ridiculous.
If you because of where you happen to have been born believe in a Christian god because you were told that was true at a very vulnerable age by everyone around you - you effectively caught a religious virus then I think that has had enough respect and a little random voice on the internet saying 'WTF?' is maybe something to think about.
The world is going to Hell in a hand basket and you think we've made progress? I can't even understand why anyone would bring a child into this fucked up world with all the shit that's going on nowdays. Iran and North Korea are threatening people with atomic bombs. The rich keep getting richer while the poor get poorer and poorer. Our own government can't be trusted to tell you the truth about anything. I don't see the progress you speak of.
When my Dad was conceived there were people in planes dropping bombs on the city he lived in killing thousands of people every other night. He got a pencil for xmas in a good year, they had no TV or internet and no sweets, or even TV. When he got to 8 years old he got to eat a banana. They would be beaten routinely and friends on his street who were catholic would be fucked by the local priest.
The difference between his upbringing and mine is just as large as the difference between mine and my kids.
It's completely ludicrous to say there is no progress, you are spectacularly lucky to be born now. Even more fucking lucky to be born in one of the rich countries. You lucky lucky lucky bastard.
You need to travel - seriously do some travelling. See the world and realise how lucky you are.
It's not dissimilar but it's not likely that you would campaign to stop gay people getting married because you supported Arsenal.
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. "
Steven Weinberg
I'm not asking you to respect my believes. I'm asking you to respect my right to believe what I believe just like I respect your right to believe what you want to believe. I'm not calling you heathenous for your comments I just find them offensive because you're basically calling anyone who doesn't agree with you an idiot.
No, but you have them - in extreme cases, granted - beating & possibly killing supporters of rival clubs.
But to paint it more broadly... I was born in Portugal.
Here, you either like football, or you're fucked.
You have to jump through hoops to practice any other sport. And you'll be frowned upon or ridiculed.
People tend to think that the little world around them is the right one & all the other little worlds are crazy and/or wrong.
It's all bullshit. Your parents had no idea what they were doing. Their parents had no idea what they were doing. You're - and by that, I mean, everyone - probably just trying your best to copy what your parents did, even though you pretend to be avoiding it. And that's what they did.
Everyone's lost. Well, I found myself & I don't need god or any mumbo jumbo. You eat, drink, fuck, sleep. You're not going to amount to anything. The odds are against you.
Like I said, half a dozen people made a difference. The rest - and that's a lot of rest - tried & failed miserably. Then they spent their frustrations on their kids, trying to have a second opportunity through them. And on & on & on...
Fuck that shit. I want entertainment while I'm passing my life's time. The rest of you can try to find significance in your life. Good luck with that.
Cheers!
I don't think you should respect my beliefs.
I don't think you should respect anyone's beliefs.
In real life you shouldn't be rude to them but on here you should feel free to say you think my beliefs are idiotic and more importantly why you think that.
This should be a marketplace of ideas.
I didn't call you an idiot
I would agree with you. I like to think normal people approach posting much like if they were face to face at a pub or someone's house.
Would you really remind them over an over about the time they spilt your beer (Internet or equivalent - moving a thread) said one thing and often did the exact opposite action? Who hasn't? No malice is intended and if a line is crossed an apology and amends are quickly made.
I can guarantee people in a bar are going to hang and make fun about people's troubles and all but in the end having fun is the goal.
I can guarantee you one thing though... if people are launching racist blasts or harassing a family member, etc things are going to come to a head.
how about before you post the next "pot calling tea kettle black" (idiom) you ask yourself if that is something you would say if we were all playing pool or whatever. Chances are we would not be inviting you out again.
Is it too much to ask? It's just so done man
Last edited by Romeo Delight; 08-12-2013 at 01:02 AM.
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The fool says in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;
there is no one who does good.
The Lord looks down from heaven
on all mankind
to see if there are any who understand,
any who seek God.
All have turned away, all have become corrupt;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.
Do all these evildoers know nothing?
They devour my people as though eating bread;
they never call on the Lord.
But there they are, overwhelmed with dread,
for God is present in the company of the righteous.
You evildoers frustrate the plans of the poor,
but the Lord is their refuge.
Oh, that salvation for Israel would come out of Zion!
When the Lord restores his people,
let Jacob rejoice and Israel be glad!
Psalms 14
C'mon! Everybody!
Take your fucking preaching out of "my" thread.
"Ya know what they say about angels... An angel is a supernatural being or spirit, usually humanoid in form, found in various religions and mythologies. Plus Roth fan boards..."- ZahZoo April 2013
Well, I could say go to hell, but that's a given...
So, go back to whatever vile disgusting thing you were putting into your heart trying to fill that God shaped hole...
Oh, ffs. Take your fire and brimstone elsewhere. You know fuck all about my belief system...because I don't shove my beliefs down other people's throats!
But I can tell you this much...you're in for a big surprise, pal.
Oh, and that disgusting perverted thing I was putting into my heart was forgiveness for people that have harmed me or other's that I care about. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Last edited by Angel; 08-12-2013 at 03:58 PM.
I forgive you...
Now tell God you love him...
Angel, I forgive thee.
Now that means all the rest of you can drop thy stones already.
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