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  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    The band can really play live but Paul's vocals are wearing thin...

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    • Mr Walker
      Crazy Ass Mofo
      • Jan 2004
      • 2536

      I bought the 180g vinyl lp... when I got home and opened it to listen, I was a little disappointed that all I got inside was a white paper sleeve... but then after looking at the condition on the vinyl... I was fucking furious.
      Brand new out of the shrink wrap and sleeve... the album was scuffed, dirty and there was even a thumbprint on it. I payed more than double than the CD for what is being pushed as a 180g audophile version of this and the amount of care that went into the handling and packing of the product offended me like you wouldn't believe.
      Even after cleaning it a few times, the album was riddled with clicks and pops... fuck, I have an original pressing of 'Hotter Than Hell' from 1974 that plays 1000 times better than this did. I was thinking about returning it to the store I bought it from, I'm sure they would accept it back being a cool independent record shop, but why should I stick them with it. Maybe I'll send an e-mail to someone at the label.
      The problem with these new vinyl pressings is there is no quality control since albums are now pressed in such limited quantities basically as novelty items. Back in the day when vinyl was the dominant medium (over cassettes, 8-tracks and reel to reel tapes) those presses were running constantly and out of every 1,000 lps pressed (maybe more) they would pull one, cut it and look at a cross section under a microscope (or similar device). The main thing they would look for were tiny air bubbles that would form in the vinyl during the heating/cooling process. Since these new 180g pressings are done on such a limited basis, they can't afford to do that type of quality control and since the machines are not constantly running at a steady monitored level, these 'bubbles' are often present in a lot of these current 180g pressings causing clicks and pops which become more obvious after a play or two being exposed by the stylus.

      Anyway, the album is OK... I like it better than Sonic Boom. The Eric Singer tune would have been much better if Paul sang it... would have sounded like something from his '78 solo album. I'm always happy to hear track when Paul and Gene trade lead vocals, but the lyrics on 'Take Me Down Below' are ridiculous and embarrassing... that's something we'd come up with in our high school band.
      I can sense already that it's not going to grow on me because I already find myself skipping over tracks. For me the highlights are 'Hell or Hallelujah' and 'Long Way Down'.

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      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        Guess I won't be picking that one up...

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        • DLR Bridge
          ROCKSTAR

          • Mar 2011
          • 5470

          Wow, if Long Way Down is one of the better tracks, that doesn't sound too promising.

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          • Mr. Vengeance
            Full Member Status

            • Nov 2004
            • 4148

            Originally posted by Mr Walker
            I bought the 180g vinyl lp... when I got home and opened it to listen, I was a little disappointed that all I got inside was a white paper sleeve... but then after looking at the condition on the vinyl... I was fucking furious.
            Brand new out of the shrink wrap and sleeve... the album was scuffed, dirty and there was even a thumbprint on it. I payed more than double than the CD for what is being pushed as a 180g audophile version of this and the amount of care that went into the handling and packing of the product offended me like you wouldn't believe.
            Even after cleaning it a few times, the album was riddled with clicks and pops... fuck, I have an original pressing of 'Hotter Than Hell' from 1974 that plays 1000 times better than this did. I was thinking about returning it to the store I bought it from, I'm sure they would accept it back being a cool independent record shop, but why should I stick them with it. Maybe I'll send an e-mail to someone at the label.
            The problem with these new vinyl pressings is there is no quality control since albums are now pressed in such limited quantities basically as novelty items. Back in the day when vinyl was the dominant medium (over cassettes, 8-tracks and reel to reel tapes) those presses were running constantly and out of every 1,000 lps pressed (maybe more) they would pull one, cut it and look at a cross section under a microscope (or similar device). The main thing they would look for were tiny air bubbles that would form in the vinyl during the heating/cooling process. Since these new 180g pressings are done on such a limited basis, they can't afford to do that type of quality control and since the machines are not constantly running at a steady monitored level, these 'bubbles' are often present in a lot of these current 180g pressings causing clicks and pops which become more obvious after a play or two being exposed by the stylus.

            Anyway, the album is OK... I like it better than Sonic Boom. The Eric Singer tune would have been much better if Paul sang it... would have sounded like something from his '78 solo album. I'm always happy to hear track when Paul and Gene trade lead vocals, but the lyrics on 'Take Me Down Below' are ridiculous and embarrassing... that's something we'd come up with in our high school band.
            I can sense already that it's not going to grow on me because I already find myself skipping over tracks. For me the highlights are 'Hell or Hallelujah' and 'Long Way Down'.
            Good analysis of the vinyl today vs. it's heyday. I miss vinyl.
            Stay Frosty, muthas!

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            • silverfish
              Foot Soldier
              • Mar 2007
              • 551

              Paul & Tommy were on the Walton & Johnson show and things got a bit "feisty" - link.
              Originally posted by sadaist
              I don't mind that one Nickelback song. I just hate the fact that they put it on every album 10 times.

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              • silverfish
                Foot Soldier
                • Mar 2007
                • 551

                With Peter's book out does that leave Paul as the only one who hasn't written one?
                Originally posted by sadaist
                I don't mind that one Nickelback song. I just hate the fact that they put it on every album 10 times.

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                • Dave's Bitch
                  ROCKSTAR

                  • Apr 2005
                  • 5291

                  Yes but not for long

                  I really love you baby, I love what you've got
                  Let's get together we can, Get hot

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                  • indeedido
                    Veteran
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 2293

                    Originally posted by chefcraig
                    I liked this song a lot better when Humble Pie did it back in 1971...

                    I thought the same thing!! Hell or Hallelujah is mighty close to DP's Burn!
                    This space for rent.

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                    • Dave's Bitch
                      ROCKSTAR

                      • Apr 2005
                      • 5291

                      It is closer to I Stole Your Love
                      I really love you baby, I love what you've got
                      Let's get together we can, Get hot

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                      • Mr Walker
                        Crazy Ass Mofo
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 2536

                        Originally posted by indeedido
                        I thought the same thing!! Hell or Hallelujah is mighty close to DP's Burn!
                        So was 'I Stole Your Love'... I think Paul even admitted to copping the Burn riff in an interview once.

                        Sorry... didn't see your post DB.

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                        • Va Beach VH Fan
                          ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 17913

                          Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

                          "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

                          "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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                          • katina
                            Commando
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 1469

                            I bought tickets for Kiss concert in Buenos Aires, 7 November !!!!!!!!!


                            But I miss Peter and Ace

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                            • fraroc
                              Commando
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 1172

                              Originally posted by katina
                              I bought tickets for Kiss concert in Buenos Aires, 7 November !!!!!!!!!


                              But I miss Peter and Ace
                              They still put on a good show, man

                              But I agree about Tommy and Eric being the Spaceman and Catman. Everytime I look at Scandinavian death metal groups and see their "corpse makeup" I always find myself thinking that If Tommy and Eric were to wear makeup like that instead of Ace and Peter's, It would be totally fine by me.
                              How do you spell pretentious? S-A-M-M-Y H-A-G-A-R

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                              • FORD
                                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                                • Jan 2004
                                • 58789

                                Considering that Eric Carr and Vinnie Vincent had their own makeup characters, I don't see why the current two scabs can't come up with their own identities.
                                Eat Us And Smile

                                Cenk For America 2024!!

                                Justice Democrats


                                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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