Bernie Saunders on Rogan

[Nitro Express]

Do you really just pull this random fucking nonsense out of your ass? You really don't drink or do drugs? I mean, FFS. I 'm not a Bern-feeler, but...



A completely untrue and unfair statement. Bern may have no chance of winning, but he fuck-well didn't see that coming and thought he had a great chance to win if not a shoe in! By all accounts he's shocked at his political decline from almost toasting Hillary to also ran...



Why? Does he believe in stupid fucking conspiracy theories?



The corporate money has its head up its ass, as usual. There is no monolithic "corporate money" though...



Specifically why is Warren "the best"? Why do you think she is the best?



As far as what? How is Biden "tied to China"? Do you go to bars in Shithole, Wyoming and spout this crap to your friends like you actually know what you are talking about? Do your hick friends nod their heads in agreement?



Sure, tell me the last time Trump was over 50% approval. But no one can beat him? He beats himself every day...



The answer is fuck no, Michelle Obama does not want to get "into it". IU think that's pretty fucking academic at this point...

How’s your blood pressure Nick? It really doesn’t take much to trigger you.

[Nitro Express]

Retards that like Trump and are going the way of the dinosaur via the internet. Someone tell these crusty cigar chomping fuckwit relics that there is no Jill Stein this time, at least not yet..

????? Hillary spent a fortune on television ads and Trump used Twitter and won. Hillary ran an old styled campaign and Trump used the internet to great effect.

[Nitro Express]

Bookies have Trump as favorite for 2020 which shows the sad state of the world.

Michelle Obama is 200-1 Nitro but I'll give you 100-1 if you want to take that bet?

Oh you know there are people pestering her to run. She would be a contender. She’s a superstar to the left. She hated living in the White House though and I don’t think she’s power driven like many politicians are.

I don’t think the Dems can beat Trump so I’m betting the Trump card.

[Nitro Express]

Even the New York Post covered Biden’s China ties.

https://nypost.com/2019/05/11/the-troubling-reason-why-biden-is-so-soft-on-china/

[ZahZoo]

You really think gaffs matter at this point? Trump looked like a complete fucktard in Ohio, yet you still support him...

No, the gaffs don't really matter much at this phase... all they do is highlight a lack of compelling vision for leading the country and the ability to articulate it. In a field of 20+ that's not the catalyst to stand out, build momentum, win a nomination and seriously challenge Trump.

That's the goal at this point... isn't it..?

That's what's lacking across the field. There's a few that have some of that... but then they spout idiotic crap like free healthcare for all, open borders, or climate change nonsense that can not be realistically achieved without tanking the entire nation economically and undermining our strengths globally. Those pie in the sky aspects won't capture the hearts/votes of the majority of the nation and lead to unseating Trump.

I'd really rather be faced with a difficult decision with a viable Democratic challenger that would be worthy of serious consideration for my vote... That someone hasn't shown themselves yet.

[Nickdfresh]

And this has what to do with bookies?

????? Hillary spent a fortune on television ads and Trump used Twitter and won.

IDR but I don't think Trump was noted for using Twatter prior to being pResident. In any case, you mean the Twitter that cuntservatives now hate, but still use religiously?

I mean, Bitch McConnell could always follow his credo and not use it?

Hillary ran an old styled campaign and Trump used the internet to great effect.

Um, another gross oversimplification. I concede that Hillary is and was a bit behind the times, but Trump could barely figure out an internet browser. The Russian military intelligence troll-farm was doing much more for Trump and his campaign than he, or his confused staff, were on the web. And the greatest shot to Hillary's campaign was Comey reopening the "email" investigation on the eve of the election. She'd have almost certainly have won had that not been a November surprise...

[Nickdfresh]

Oh you know there are people pestering her to run. She would be a contender. She’s a superstar to the left. She hated living in the White House though and I don’t think she’s power driven like many politicians are.

I don’t think the Dems can beat Trump so I’m betting the Trump card.

Even if she wanted too, it's too late. And she doesn't want too...

[Nickdfresh]

No, the gaffs don't really matter much at this phase... all they do is highlight a lack of compelling vision for leading the country and the ability to articulate it. In a field of 20+ that's not the catalyst to stand out, build momentum, win a nomination and seriously challenge Trump.

That's the goal at this point... isn't it..?

"Change"? Momentum to change? I think you completely misconstrue things. There's a reason there are 20+ Democratic candidates and everyone that was the registered Democrat town do catcher is running - because they all have a great shot against Drumpf...

That's what's lacking across the field. There's a few that have some of that... but then they spout idiotic crap like free healthcare for all,

You mean like every other Westernized capitalistic democracy has? I mean, fuckwell right! How sensible to spend billions more than every other country and still have worse overall health outcomes. How could they ever think of that!

..open borders,

As opposed to Trumps closed borders and Wall?

..or climate change nonsense that can not be realistically achieved without tanking the entire nation economically and undermining our strengths globally. Those pie in the sky aspects won't capture the hearts/votes of the majority of the nation and lead to unseating Trump.

LMFAO old man, Really, like Climate Change isn't going to bury the world in a mire of rising sea levels and cause economic catastrophe. See the forest through the trees, old man...

I'd really rather be faced with a difficult decision with a viable Democratic challenger that would be worthy of serious consideration for my vote... That someone hasn't shown themselves yet.

You mean, basically George Bush at this point...

However you want to rationalize voting for a complete fucking train-wreck administration that can't even fill basic State Dep't positions while Trump golf's. Keep voting with all the other old, scared white people, bud. Because no thinking, serious person can look at this admin and say, "hey, they got this!"..

[Seshmeister]

????? Hillary spent a fortune on television ads and Trump used Twitter and won. Hillary ran an old styled campaign and Trump used the internet to great effect.

Plus the Russians used FaceBook for him.

[Terry]

Yeah, "I'm not Hillary"...

Mmm...yeah, but when Obama was seeking the nomination in 2007 and early to mid 2008 the vibe I got wasn't as much "I'm not Hillary" as it was "I'm Barack Obama"...if that makes any sense. Mostly because he couldn't really make the "I'm not Hillary" case in a meaningful political sense, because they were ideologically more similar than dissimilar.

[Nitro Express]

No, the gaffs don't really matter much at this phase... all they do is highlight a lack of compelling vision for leading the country and the ability to articulate it. In a field of 20+ that's not the catalyst to stand out, build momentum, win a nomination and seriously challenge Trump.

That's the goal at this point... isn't it..?

That's what's lacking across the field. There's a few that have some of that... but then they spout idiotic crap like free healthcare for all, open borders, or climate change nonsense that can not be realistically achieved without tanking the entire nation economically and undermining our strengths globally. Those pie in the sky aspects won't capture the hearts/votes of the majority of the nation and lead to unseating Trump.i

I'd really rather be faced with a difficult decision with a viable Democratic challenger that would be worthy of serious consideration for my vote... That someone hasn't shown themselves yet.

Aw come on. The Dems have plenty of brilliant thinkers. AOC really made a great observation that airplanes are damn loud and pollute the air. Why fly to Hawaii when you could take a train there? It would give the people living by the airports a break and we could grow native vegetables where the airports used to be. It would be great but don’t grow any of that racist colliflower.

[Nickdfresh]

Aw come on. The Dems have plenty of brilliant thinkers. AOC really made a great observation that airplanes are damn loud and pollute the air. Why fly to Hawaii when you could take a train there?...

When did she say that and what was the quote?

AOC is like every ultra-conservatives' socialist dominatrix. She's a junior congresswoman with very littel actual clout that is fixated upon by Faux News for whatever reason, but there really is something creepily psycho-sexual about it...

[ZahZoo]

LMFAO old man, Really, like Climate Change isn't going to bury the world in a mire of rising sea levels and cause economic catastrophe. See the forest through the trees, old man...

Climate change is 100% real...

4.543 billion years of history and the last 100 years of science advancements prove without a doubt that the planet's climate has changed significantly and continues to do so on a yearly/monthly/daily/hourly basis... but in that 4.543 billion years, only about .000001%... I'm being generous... "might" be attributable to human activity and none of it can be controlled by elected officials in the US government.

Yes, the seas will rise... they do so twice a day due to the gravitational pull of the moon not who's farting around in the White House... elect the fucking moon if you want an entity that can have a direct impact on climate change. That's your best shot...

[Seshmeister]

Wow you really can never underestimate the incredible persuasive power in the US of the fossil fuels lobbyists.

Or maybe it's just a coincidence that it's only in the US you have all this denial...

[Nickdfresh]

Maybe Zah can explain to us how great CO2 is! You can never have too much CO2 and plants love! It must be good! Just like water (that will soon drown out a large number of coastal cities)....

It's really funny how stupid otherwise educated and experienced can be. 'I want to believe we're not fucked,' and even if we are the industrial revolution and the previous onset of organized agriculture had nothing to do with it (even if it directly corresponds with both and the resulting spikes of CO in the atmosphere)...

Here's an easy, readable Map for you Zooey: