The Inevitability Of Impeachment

[cadaverdog]

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He's going to have to fuck up in a far more substantial way than some think he has thus far to get removed. And if it came down to that, it wouldn't shock me if Trump was willing to do what Nixon wouldn't, which is use the United States Armed Forces as a barrier to physical removal under his command.

Nixon resigned. He left office voluntarily. Do you have any proof he even considered using the military to stay in office or is that more liberal propaganda?

[Nickdfresh]

Nixon resigned. He left office voluntarily. Do you have any proof he even considered using the military to stay in office or is that more liberal propaganda?

Um, at some point the military was ready to drop kick him, too....

[cadaverdog]

Um, at some point the military was ready to drop kick him, too....

His biggest crime was cheating in the election and trying to cover it up.

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[Nitro Express]

Nixon didn't enrich himself while in office. He kept his hand out of the cookie jar. He also was a geopolitical genius. Nixon's patriotism drove him to act like a dictator and break rules and he got in trouble as a result. Nixon is an interesting study.

[Nickdfresh]

His biggest crime was cheating in the election and trying to cover it up.

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Maybe, but at least some generals thought he was a Byzantine, double-dealing cunt for his ruthless calculating at the end of Vietnam...

[cadaverdog]

Maybe, but at least some generals thought he was a Byzantine, double-dealing cunt for his ruthless calculating at the end of Vietnam...

I was kind of shocked when I heard he thought about using nukes several times while he was in office.

[Nitro Express]

I was kind of shocked when I heard he thought about using nukes several times while he was in office.

I never heard that one. I heard Kissinger had to take over because Nixon was mentally and physically incapable of running the presidency and they hid it from the pubic.

I ran into G Gordon Liddy while in Scottsdale, Arizona. A family friend was an old Hoover era FBI agent so I got to shoot the shit with G Gordon about the old Hoover FBI. I never brought up Watergate.

[Nickdfresh]

He was becoming more and more unhinged...

[Nitro Express]

People who worked for Nixon said the man had a photographic memory. He remembered your birthday and remembered the name of your wife and sometimes your kids. If you were sick and didn't make it to a staff meeting Nixon often would call you to see how you were doing. He liked his silver bullet martinis as well and could play something like nine instruments. The guy was pretty amazing but then very flawed. Seems to have had an inferiority complex in a way. One of his former staff said he got paranoid. Maybe the stress got to him and he cracked.

[FORD]

His biggest crime was cheating in the election and trying to cover it up.

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Not even remotely close.....


POPPY: Dick, I just want to thank you again, for all the things you did for my daddy...


PRESCOTT: Dick you're one of us now. You are officially BCE! Hey Jack, don't the hat look great on him??

Jack?? Who's the "Jack" in between Nixon & Prescott there, you might ask??

Well here's a clue.......



He would later relocate to Dallas.... where he would eventually be known for hanging around the local police department at the damndest times......

[Terry]

Too soon to tell. The man has only been in office a week. The guy is an outsider. That's what the insiders on both sides of the isle fear the most. Most these politicians believe in nothing. They have no ideology. If they were true public servants they wouldn't get rich while serving in office and stay there for 30 plus years. They don't know what to think about Trump. The guy had a pretty nice lifestyle without all the flack he gets now. Sure he's president but he seems to be there to to change Washington and he seems to have ran because he was frustrated the politicians were going to finally make us a socialist country smothered with regulations while we sink as an economic super power. Trump wants a pro-business America. Not one filled with government gatekeepers and red tape. He's the anti-socialist small government guy. The establishment politicians on the left and right have many reasons to hate this guy. Trump is going to be very disruptive. It will be four to eight years of non-stop crying and finger pointing. Will he be so gung ho as to get himself in trouble like Nixon did? Who knows. All I know is the guy seems like a very hard worker. Seems to be a strategic thinker who thinks outside the box. Seems to be absolutely fearless. One thing for sure. Trump is not business as usual and that scares people more than anything.

Trump is definitely not business as usual.

He's certainly not there to give the government back to the people like he claimed: if you live in a democracy, as a citizen you have control of the government via your participation and the ballot box. It's much the same as the concept of freedom: nobody can give you your freedom. You either have it or you don't. If you don't, the only way you get it is to take it back yourself.

Trump's basic, core belief is economic Darwinism. In that people are free to succeed or fail, and via privatization of various human services (education, medical care) coupled with tax breaks for corporations and deregulation, the deck is going to be even more stacked against the majority of the population. Trump divides people into 2 categories: winners and losers. If you're a winner, the ends (even if illegal or unethical) always justify the means you took to get there. If you're a loser, it's 100% your own fault and you shouldn't expect any help from anybody because you are totally to blame for your lot in life even if the capitalist system is by and large rigged against those who aren't already wealthy.

He's a huckster and a con man. Like any huckster or con man, he saw an opening and was able to ride a wave of anger so many in this country justifiably feel because they realize the country isn't being run with their interests in mind. It's being run almost entirely to serve the whims of those at the apex. It always has been, and the only time that has changed is under threat of force from the citizenry, at which point a few more scraps are thrown down from the table than otherwise would be freely given. Sadly, a lot of these understandably frustrated people include foreigners and foreign labor as a cause for their lot in life, rather than being angry at corporations who have outsourced the manufacturing jobs.

Trump was a human Molotov cocktail thrown into the works of government. That's fine as far as it goes, but now Trump has to actually govern. I don't doubt that Trump would prefer not to get himself into trouble as Nixon did. However, Trump is impulsive by nature and has a Reagan-like ability to believe things are so because he thinks they are so. It's kind of like how Trump has stacked his Cabinet with this particular group of anti-regulatory, anti-union, pro-privatization millionaires and billionaires: I'm sure low-income Trump voters will somehow convince themselves these people actually care the slightest about (or could even imagine, much less relate to) their daily concerns or their lives, even though there is no reason for them to believe this is true.

What scares me more about Trump than the fact that he isn't particularly beholden to either of the political parties are his personality traits which, unlike Nixon's, have been unabashedly out front for everybody to see. Just as scary would be the amount of people who voted for him in spite of those traits being in clear view, inasmuch as it speaks to their level of frustration with what has happened to America over the last 35 or so years and the desperate measures they will resort to in responding. Trump is a primal scream.

He has only been in office a week, but look at the rollout of his travel ban. Even putting the legality/morality of it to one side: you roll it out without properly notifying in advance the agencies that will actually have to physically implement the policy? Smacks of impulsive amateurishness just in the mechanics of it, never mind the ideology behind it. If one can't get the small things right, what does that portend for the bigger things? Sure, nobody bats a thousand and nobody is perfect, but the manner in which this was carried out speaks well neither of the President nor those who function as his advisors.

[FORD]

Things are not looking good for Herr Cheetofuhrer.....

[Von Halen]

Good. There's been too many years of "yes" men running things. Too many years of ignorant morons that cared more about their approval rating, than actually doing what's best for this Country. That's all changing now. The motherfuckers that are going to get called to the carpet, don't approve. Imagine that. It's like asking the guy walking to the gallows, if he approves of his execution. Trump is going to execute (unfortunately, not literally) the scumbags that fucked this Country up. They know it, they don't like it. They're scared their free ride and reign is over, and it is.

You dumbasses that are crying so loud, will have a long 8 years of crying. Read it and continue weeping.

[FORD]

Geezus.... name ONE thing that Orange Motherfucking Nazi has done in the last 8 days that is "best for this country".

And don't say "pulled out of SHAFTA", because that was already done before Thanksgiving.

[Nitro Express]

Trump is definitely not business as usual.

He's certainly not there to give the government back to the people like he claimed: if you live in a democracy, as a citizen you have control of the government via your participation and the ballot box. It's much the same as the concept of freedom: nobody can give you your freedom. You either have it or you don't. If you don't, the only way you get it is to take it back yourself.

Trump's basic, core belief is economic Darwinism. In that people are free to succeed or fail, and via privatization of various human services (education, medical care) coupled with tax breaks for corporations and deregulation, the deck is going to be even more stacked against the majority of the population. Trump divides people into 2 categories: winners and losers. If you're a winner, the ends (even if illegal or unethical) always justify the means you took to get there. If you're a loser, it's 100% your own fault and you shouldn't expect any help from anybody because you are totally to blame for your lot in life even if the capitalist system is by and large rigged against those who aren't already wealthy.

He's a huckster and a con man. Like any huckster or con man, he saw an opening and was able to ride a wave of anger so many in this country justifiably feel because they realize the country isn't being run with their interests in mind. It's being run almost entirely to serve the whims of those at the apex. It always has been, and the only time that has changed is under threat of force from the citizenry, at which point a few more scraps are thrown down from the table than otherwise would be freely given. Sadly, a lot of these understandably frustrated people include foreigners and foreign labor as a cause for their lot in life, rather than being angry at corporations who have outsourced the manufacturing jobs.

Trump was a human Molotov cocktail thrown into the works of government. That's fine as far as it goes, but now Trump has to actually govern. I don't doubt that Trump would prefer not to get himself into trouble as Nixon did. However, Trump is impulsive by nature and has a Reagan-like ability to believe things are so because he thinks they are so. It's kind of like how Trump has stacked his Cabinet with this particular group of anti-regulatory, anti-union, pro-privatization millionaires and billionaires: I'm sure low-income Trump voters will somehow convince themselves these people actually care the slightest about (or could even imagine, much less relate to) their daily concerns or their lives, even though there is no reason for them to believe this is true.

What scares me more about Trump than the fact that he isn't particularly beholden to either of the political parties are his personality traits which, unlike Nixon's, have been unabashedly out front for everybody to see. Just as scary would be the amount of people who voted for him in spite of those traits being in clear view, inasmuch as it speaks to their level of frustration with what has happened to America over the last 35 or so years and the desperate measures they will resort to in responding. Trump is a primal scream.

He has only been in office a week, but look at the rollout of his travel ban. Even putting the legality/morality of it to one side: you roll it out without properly notifying in advance the agencies that will actually have to physically implement the policy? Smacks of impulsive amateurishness just in the mechanics of it, never mind the ideology behind it. If one can't get the small things right, what does that portend for the bigger things? Sure, nobody bats a thousand and nobody is perfect, but the manner in which this was carried out speaks well neither of the President nor those who function as his advisors.

If Washington DC is a cat. Trump is the kid who stuck the M-80 firecracker up it's ass. Trump is like putting a fire out with explosives. Ha! ha! He did say he made the temporary ban with no warning because if he gave warning the people they are trying to keep out of the country would have come through before they issued the ban. Makes sense. Trump is a capitalist. Yeah he believes you compete in the open arena and you earn what you get. The US has pretty much always been that way but we have crony capitalism and that's not good. It's a cycle. You have free market and then monopolies form and then market crashes and government regulation makes thing more fair. You are never going to have a Utopia. I think the best thing a country can provide from a socialist standpoint is good public schools. I lived in Hong Kong for three years and there was no public school system. It was all private school and if your parents couldn't afford it you didn't go to school and you ended up being a laborer. After seeing that I appreciated the public school system in the US. If a person has a good education and a work ethic, they aren't going to be poor.