Ultra rare BADLANDS doc!!!

[sonrisa salvaje]

Didn't they have a 3rd record at some point? I think i remember them releasing something else later on, perhaps the follow up to V-Highway that was never released until much later?

[binnie]

Didn't they have a 3rd record at some point? I think i remember them releasing something else later on, perhaps the follow up to V-Highway that was never released until much later?

Yes: it was called 'Dusk' and it was essentially the demos for the third record that they never got to record. Don't let 'demo' put you off - if I hadn't told you, you'd probably just think it was a Badlands album proper because the raw sound works for 'em. 'Dusk' was also a lot heavier than 'Voodoo....'

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What he said.

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Brethren and Sistren,

"Dusk" was released years later, originally a "demo" for the label prior to Ray's passing (obviously). Because I couldn't find this or Jake's "A Fine Pink Mist" solo album, I purchased them for sixteen cents ($0.16) from a Russian pirating site. I did send an email to Jake's last known working address telling him it was my only recourse and I'll put $30 ($15x2CDs) cash money in his hand if I ever see him (he lives in Vegas).

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Walking Attitude and The Fire Lasts Forever are the stand outs IMHO.

[sonrisa salvaje]

Awesome. I have been meaning to track that cd down or download it but like most things when i get in front of the computer to order it or check i tunes i never can remember what the hell it was i was looking for. The thread has saved the day.

[sonrisa salvaje]

I heard Eddie Trunk the other night talking about the upcoming Jake interview on That Metal Show. Somebody asks him if he would ever consider working with Ozzy again and he said he would consider it but he would have to be given credit for his writing the songs on Bark at the Moon. The record says Ozzy wrote all the songs and lyrics which is silly. Supposedly, Jake says that he doesn't want the money at this point; only the credit and respect that he deserves for writing the music.
Give the man his due i say. Ozzy has never given anyone credit for shit. (or should i say his devilish partner)

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Considering Sharon went out of her way to have bass and drum parts re-recorded, I doubt Jake will ever be formally acknowledged. Notice also how not one song from Ultimate Sin (in which Jake and Phil - who penned Shot In The Dark - are credited on that album) isn't even on Ozzy's "The Essential Ozzy Osbourne" compilation. Giving credit where credit is due isn't something Sharon likes to do...

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Didn't she fire Jake via telegram or something ridiculous like that? Not sure how much stock to put in the Wiki these days.

[sonrisa salvaje]

Didn't she fire Jake via telegram or something ridiculous like that? Not sure how much stock to put in the Wiki these days.

I don't doubt it. This is the same woman that had Iron Maiden egged.

[sonrisa salvaje]

S.S.

Considering Sharon went out of her way to have bass and drum parts re-recorded, I doubt Jake will ever be formally acknowledged. Notice also how not one song from Ultimate Sin (in which Jake and Phil - who penned Shot In The Dark - are credited on that album) isn't even on Ozzy's "The Essential Ozzy Osbourne" compilation. Giving credit where credit is due isn't something Sharon likes to do...

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I never noticed that or thought about it. Certainly you could have included Shot in the Dark because of its MTV popularity but from a music standpoint i would say Killer of Giants is a must have on anything called Essential Ozzy.

[binnie]

I think everyone would admit that 'Bark....' and 'Ultimate...' were a step down from the first two Ozzy records, but they're better than is often remembered (I reviewed Ultimate Sin). A lot of the problem is the '80s production makes things feel rigid, but if you can get past it the songs are better than people think. I'd certainly take those two records over the Zakk Wylde era (no offence to Zakk).....

[sonrisa salvaje]

I think everyone would admit that 'Bark....' and 'Ultimate...' were a step down from the first two Ozzy records, but they're better than is often remembered (I reviewed Ultimate Sin). A lot of the problem is the '80s production makes things feel rigid, but if you can get past it the songs are better than people think. I'd certainly take those two records over the Zakk Wylde era (no offence to Zakk).....

I agree with you. I always liked Ultimate Sin and thought it was undervalued. Years of Ozzy and Sharon trying to bury the record haven't helped its legacy either. The only Zakk era record that is close imo is No Rest for the Wicked. I was always fond of album tracks like Demon Alcohol and Breaking All the Rules.

[jhale667]

Didn't she fire Jake via telegram or something ridiculous like that? Not sure how much stock to put in the Wiki these days.

I've always heard it was for the incident when Ozzy flipped on Sharon and said "Time to die, darling" - and started choking her out... I've heard Sharon tell that part of the story on TV, but NOT the part I heard from his tech... supposedly Jake was living with them at the time, was there when the incident happened, tried to pull Ozzy off her, who then took a swing at HIM - and got drop-kicked (in self-defense, mind you) for it.

Yep, may or may not be true, but the version I heard he bascially got fired on the spot for saving her life...


But considering we're talking about Sharon? I tend to believe it...

[Mr. Vengeance]

I found a big dropoff between Bark at the Moon and Ultimate Sin. Ultimate Sin being heavier on keyboards and less heavy. Bark at the Moon I would put very close to the first two albums, although it's impossible to touch Blizzard and Diary.